Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow.

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    Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow.

    This paragraph is from an article on WEEI.com,I've provided a link if you want to read it all:

    http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21149846/yocum-examines-lackey-resolution-near

    According to multiple industry sources, Red Sox right-hander John Lackey ‬recently visited Dr. Lewis Yocum in California to have his right elbow examined. According to one of the sources, the Red Sox are expecting "a final resolution" in the coming days after receiving the examination's results. The source stated that the organization doesn't believe a second opinion will be necessary.

     
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    Why is the funny bone connected to the brain? Because that is where the root of the problem is.
     
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    fluid on elbow......on further examination proved to be Bud Light
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow.:
    [QUOTE]fluid on elbow......on further examination proved to be Bud Light
    Posted by sday4x4[/QUOTE]

    Will the good DR put it on tap?

    And will someone escort John to the offices of Jung & Freud, PhDs?

       As Burrito mentioned, a lot of it is in his head.



       My older son gave me a hat that said GAP on the part in front of the bill.  He was asked if he got it at the store ... trying to be somewhat fashionable.  He answered yes and no.  He did buy it at the national brand store, but he wanted to warn those who had only just met me that instead of functioning grey matter under the hat and between the ears, there was only a gap ....

       Love that boy.
     
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    His elbow have been bothering him back in June.  He should have seen his doctor back in June instead of this week!!!!  Then if it is a temporary injury, he could have gone on DL for a month (like from mid-june to mid july).  Then he will be a much healthier pitcher for the month of August and September instead forcing himself pitching with his injured elbow for the rest of the season!!

    I would blame the pitching coach and the manager for not forcing Lackey to see a doctor!!
     
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    He would be better served having an examination of his chest and groin area since he appears to be "lacking" in heart and stones.
     
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    [QUOTE]His elbow have been bothering him back in June.  He should have seen his doctor back in June instead of this week!!!!  Then if it is a temporary injury, he could have gone on DL for a month (like from mid-june to mid july).  Then he will be a much healthier pitcher for the month of August and September instead forcing himself pitching with his injured elbow for the rest of the season!! I would blame the pitching coach and the manager for not forcing Lackey to see a doctor!!
    Posted by GoUconn13[/QUOTE]

    He spent 24 days on the DL with a strained right elbow.  Did you miss that?
     
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    I wasnt sure if he did go on DL or not!!  Guess I did miss that one.  

    Like I said, I should blame the team's doctor who poorly examined Lackey's elbow!!


     
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    are we looking at possible tommy john surgery here???
     
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    Great! Now this waste of air becomes damaged goods.
    The Sox will lose any chance, however slight, they had to get rid of him.
     
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    [QUOTE]This paragraph is from an article on WEEI.com,I've provided a link if you want to read it all: http://www.weei.com/sports/boston/this-just-in/21149846/yocum-examines-lackey-resolution-near According to multiple industry sources, Red Sox right-hander John Lackey ‬recently visited Dr. Lewis Yocum in California to have his right elbow examined. According to one of the sources, the Red Sox are expecting "a final resolution" in the coming days after receiving the examination's results. The source stated that the organization doesn't believe a second opinion will be necessary.
    Posted by mrmojo1120[/QUOTE]

    Well we cant trade John in that case so let him get the surgery, at least he wont be hurting the team just the payroll.  In 2013 if he pitches well early, then maybe we can trade him, either way he is bad chemistry to keep around.
     
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    If he requires Tommy John surgery that would probably be better than trying to trade him.  He could be a much better pitcher after he returns from the surgery.     Similar to Dice-K when he returns from surgery next year.   I am hoping that Dice-K will be back sometime next season and be a productive pitcher for the Red Sox.   Even if it is only for a couple of months he should be able to contribute.  At least I am remaining optimistic about him for next season.   
     
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    Lackey has a clause in his contract - if he has to have TJ surgery, the Sox get one extra year at league minimum salary.  Not only would it save us about $3M / year on payroll, but it allows for optimism on his return - I think it might actually make him more tradeable than he is currently.
     
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    [QUOTE]Lackey has a clause in his contract - if he has to have TJ surgery, the Sox get one extra year at league minimum salary.  Not only would it save us about $3M / year on payroll, but it allows for optimism on his return - I think it might actually make him more tradeable than he is currently.
    Posted by slomag[/QUOTE]

    Given that it was a preexisting issue, the only thing that would have done the Sox any good would have been to have the clause enable the sox to be released from his contract for a fraction of the remainder on his deal. Who is going to care what Lackey is getting paid in 3 years after a terrible previous 5 years?

    He had elbow problems while in LA and that didnt seem to hurt his numbers while pitching against weaker AL West teams. He cant pitch in this market.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow. :  Not only would it save us about $3M / year on payroll, how is that ?
    Posted by pinstripezac[/QUOTE]

    The extra year would kick in at $500K and the CBT value would be re-calculated, I believe retro-active to the start of the contract.  So instead of 5 / $80M, he would be 6 / $80M. 
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow. : Given that it was a preexisting issue, the only thing that would have done the Sox any good would have been to have the clause enable the sox to be released from his contract for a fraction of the remainder on his deal. Who is going to care what Lackey is getting paid in 3 years after a terrible previous 5 years? He had elbow problems while in LA and that didnt seem to hurt his numbers while pitching against weaker AL West teams. He cant pitch in this market.
    Posted by gbman87603[/QUOTE]

    I think the idea was that he could still be effective when he returned from surgery.  The clause was to protect the Sox from paying him $16M for a year of rehab.

     
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    Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow.

    In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow.:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow. : Given that it was a preexisting issue, the only thing that would have done the Sox any good would have been to have the clause enable the sox to be released from his contract for a fraction of the remainder on his deal. Who is going to care what Lackey is getting paid in 3 years after a terrible previous 5 years? He had elbow problems while in LA and that didn't seem to hurt his numbers while pitching against weaker AL West teams. He cant pitch in this market.
    Posted by gbman87603[/QUOTE]Elbow problems are progressive, they don't stay the same.

    Now was Lackey going to see an increase in his ERA and other stats pitching his home games in Fenway Park and facing the unbalanced schedule in the AL East versus the AL West where there are more pitcher friendly ball parks? Yes.

    But Lackey's numbers being so bad to start the season, then improving after a DL stint complete with cortisone and then regressing again as time wore on are indicative that he pitched with physical problems.

    This was always the elephant in the room with this signing because elbows seldom stay the same without invasive procedures. Now a lot of folks in this town will focus on the beer and chicken rumors and Lackey-face during games but there is evidence that this guy kept taking the ball while hurt this year.

    TJ surgery while much more common place is still a rather radical procedure that only happens when there is irreparable damage so it may not happen yet. But it is not an informed take to claim because Lackey had issues with his elbow in Anaheim that the further damage from another 375 IP wasn't progressive and affected his performance.  
     
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    In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow.:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dr. Yocum examines Lackey's elbow. : that's some darn good lemonade slomag but in order to get the cheap yr at the end it means you missed most of a yr so actually it cost you more dollars  4 the same amount of yrs on the field
    Posted by pinstripezac[/QUOTE]

    Exactly.  You are basically getting the year missed by injury for free. 

    It is like losing a dollar and then finding .98 cents.

    It does in theory increase his trade value though, because that final year would be at a bargain price but the Red Sox are still on the hook for 5/80.
     
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    we may have made the playoffs if he would have taken september off too
     
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    He should get the surgery, he is going to go through these episodes where his elbow swells up until he does.  He may very well be a decent pitcher after he returns, and he gets a year to settle his head while he heals.     
     
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