Drew makes a difference

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    So glad that drew hit the home run, I thought he would do something special last night.  He was a big part of the post season win because of his glove, who knows how many runs he may have saved.  With the many 1 run ball games he was a very important guy on the team.

    With the home run under his belt he can feel good about his bat as well as his glove.  Have to give the guy some credit, he didn't let what happened at the plate affect what happened in the field.

    Every guy earned his ring, congrats again to all the sox!

     
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    "Drew was a net plus this postseason.  That's all that matters."

    Yup - and he discredited those who hated him mostly because of his last name which was totally unfair. 

    Both Drews were instrumental to World Series wins and that's all that matters. 

    I'm not sure I'd want to see Drew on a big multi-year contract but I would be glad to see him back for another year until things get sorted around Middlebrooks, etc

     
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    "Drew was a net plus this postseason.  That's all that matters."

    Yup - and he discredited those who hated him mostly because of his last name which was totally unfair. 

    Both Drews were instrumental to World Series wins and that's all that matters. 

    I'm not sure I'd want to see Drew on a big multi-year contract but I would be glad to see him back for another year until things get sorted around Middlebrooks, etc

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    Don't use JD to credit Stephen either, but I get your point.

    Drew back for a year does force Bogey to 3B- a good thing.

    Middy can fight for 1B job and back up 3B.

     
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    Drew has certainly shown many posters here how SS fielding is worth way more than SS offense. I thank him for that. 

     

    How?


     
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    When Drew got back to the dugout after the home run you could hear him yelling:

    'What'd I tell you?  What'd I tell you?  What'd I say?'

    Napoli says Drew told him before the game he was going to hit a home run.

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    So fun. Glad he had that moment.

     
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    Love the pics in all the threads. Really tells the story.

     
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    IMHO the reason defensive doesn't get more credit is because there are so few metrics to quantify it. 

    Even the most casual fan knows that a person batting .325 is a better hitter than a person batting .275. It's pretty straight-forward.  When we go up the fandom scale a bit the more serious fans know about SLG %age and OBP and therefore recognize the value in OPS.  And so on up the scale until you get to the "hardcores" like Moon and Notin who recognize the intricacies of offensive metrics.  (Frequently beyond what I know, but I'm learning from others as I go along).

    Defensive metrics are another story, with so many variables it's difficult for many people to wrrap their brains around them.  Range factor and UZR are a bit subjective and therefore not as straight-forward, making them harder to understand.  When we talk about the number of plays we expect an average SS to make we're talking about expectations as well as what an average SS will do.  And if a SS gets to more balls than average, but makes more errors on those balls... is that a good thing or a bad thing? 

    If there were a way to say someone is a +10 SS we'd know that he's better defensively than a +2 SS and we'd have a hard number to work into this player's offensive numbers to determine his worth.  There isn't and I don't see any way there's going to be so outstanding defense is going to continue to be underrated (IMO) in favor of offense.

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    Good defense is like what Chief Justice Potter Stewart said about pornography.  "I can't define it but I know it when I see it."

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    Exactly right.  Sometimes, a player's value can be based on the good, old-fashioned eye test. And my eyes tell me Stephen Drew is a damn good defensive shortstop, the best we've had since at least Orlando Cabrera.

     

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    This is why I was telling everyone here that S.Drew is a defensive metric nightmare. Most of his numbers suggest hes not that good defensively, when in actuality hes an above average SS or better. Im not huge on defensive metrics. I understand them and use them to a point, but certainly do not make judgements based on just those numbers. Id rather see a player defensively to make that judgement.

    Although Drew isnt hitting right now (the life of a streaky hitter) we all know hes a 750-800OPS SS and thats well above the league average of about 670-80.

    Hes saved a number of runs this post season and He WILL get a big hit before its all over.

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    Oh, yes he did! And you've said this in a couple of threads. I think he heard you. Smile

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    He did!!! ;)

    You could feel it coming. Drew also told Naps he was gonna do it too.

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    I know. That's even more amazing. Really putting himself out there. Wonder if there's any truth to the "new contacts" rumors.

     
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    That's it! He's got to be four feet in the air! Amazing.

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    Tell that to Hetch. I told him to give it another try. Tongue Out

     
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    One person I think will be pulling for Drew to return is Pedroia. They are incredible as a team. I don't remember seeing that many double plays, and they were seamless. Like I've said before, they're like a well-oiled machine. It gives a player more confidence when they know the person they're working so closely with on so many plays is in sync with them.

     
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