Dumpster Diving Success

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    Dumpster Diving Success

    Salty    7th in OPS at C MLB

    Ortiz has done alright.

    Lowell worked out a bit.

    Give Aviles a chance!

    It has been reported that Navarro is terribly slow, reportedly because he doesn't watch his weight.  How can a 23yo be overweight while trying to make it as a MLB shortstop?  You have to question the work ethic of this guy.

    We saw what having a lazy player is like in Rios last night!

    Sutton is not capable of playing the OF adequately just like Bill Hall. Sutton dropped a Francoeur easy out in LF on Thursday he came around to score and the Sox lost by one run. Aviles is a much better athlete.

    He has a plus 11 UZR/150 at SS for his career. He can be a late inning defensive sub after pinch hitting against LHP. Navarro is not worthy of being a defensive replacement.

    A 2008 4th in ROTY voting, who kills lefties, 3 more years of control, and plays a great SS.   He could be the guy sent in to steal that vital post-season base, 10 of 12 this year.  Traded for a guy with effort problems. No brainer.

    Who would you rather have on the post-season roster?                
     
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    Lowell wasn't a dumpster dive. Beckett was the reason for the deal.

    You are right, though, a lotto chance that Ortiz or a pure gold watch ends up in a dumpster. But not wise to send good value for it.

    Aviles is not a young guy.
     
    It was a free dumpster dive, which costs nothing. Big difference.

    Aviles is not going to work out as an everyday Rh OF"er, but might be a decent UIF'er. Decent splits v. Lhp, doesn't make a lot of sense if Lowrie is almost ready. Perhaps no flip deal this July, we'll see, but it appears odd going forward. 

    Iggy is having AAA PA that are good enough for an everyday top defensive SS. He can OBP in the 200's and still merit the everyday job. 

    Theo is a vacillating incoherent planner when it comes to SS.
     
     
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    Iglesias has been hitting a little better lately and he is stiff very young. Remember when Hanley came up for a cup of coffee. He looked like a deer in the headlights guy also. Iglesias may still make progress enough to have some role in 2012.
     
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    aviles is a decent addition, but is probably not going to be the difference in gaining a playoff spot. he has some versatility, comes cheap and has an inexpensive contract.

    the brass must have thought that he would add something more than navarro for whatever reason.

    when lowrie comes back i wonder where and how much aviles will play. i figure sutton to head back to pawtucket when lowrie is ready to come off the DL unless there is another injury.
     
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    [QUOTE]Lowell wasn't a dumpster dive. Beckett was the reason for the deal. You are right, though, a lotto chance that Ortiz or a pure gold watch ends up in a dumpster. But not wise to send good value for it. Aviles is not a young guy.   It was a free dumpster dive, which costs nothing. Big difference. Aviles is not going to work out as an everyday Rh OF"er, but might be a decent UIF'er. Decent splits v. Lhp, doesn't make a lot of sense if Lowrie is almost ready. Perhaps no flip deal this July, we'll see, but it appears odd going forward.  Iggy is having AAA PA that are good enough for an everyday top defensive SS. He can OBP in the 200's and still merit the everyday job.  Theo is a vacillating incoherent planner when it comes to SS.  
    Posted by softylaw[/QUOTE]  Agreed Beckett was the prize, but still Sox had to be holding their nose with the stinker season Lowell had in '05. In 150 GP he hit 236 with 8 HR 58 RBI and  OBP of 298. Florida insisted he be included or the deal wouldn't get done.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dumpster Diving Success :   Agreed Beckett was the prize, but still Sox had to be holding their nose with the stinker season Lowell had in '05. In 150 GP he hit 236 with 8 HR 58 RBI and  OBP of 298. Florida insisted he be included or the deal wouldn't get done.
    Posted by attic-dan[/QUOTE]

    For monetary reasons. They wanted to unload his contract.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Dumpster Diving Success : For monetary reasons. They wanted to unload his contract.
    Posted by Your-Echo[/QUOTE]

      I assumed people would know that, but then thought we're not dealing with MENSA candidates on this site, so it was good you added that last detail.
     
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    Lowell wasn't a dumpster dive. Beckett was the reason for the deal.

    You are right, though, a lotto chance that Ortiz or a pure gold watch ends up in a dumpster. But not wise to send good value for it.

    Aviles is not a young guy.
     
    It was a free dumpster dive, which costs nothing. Big difference.

    Softy thinks he is writing a baseball dictionary, but it is actually, unbeknownst to him,  a book of baseball terminology antonyms.
     
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    Sutton is not capable of playing the OF adequately just like Bill Hall. Sutton dropped a Francoeur easy out in LF on Thursday he came around to score and the Sox lost by one run. Aviles is a much better athlete.

    Drew Sutton has been very solid offensively in limited duty for the Red Sox. His defense doesn't inspire much confidence, however I'm not sure Aviles would be any better in the outfield. The guy hasn't played there at all in his major league career.
     
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    [QUOTE]Salty    7th in OPS at C MLB Ortiz has done alright. Lowell worked out a bit. Give Aviles a chance! It has been reported that Navarro is terribly slow, reportedly because he doesn't watch his weight.   How can a 23yo be overweight while trying to make it as a MLB shortstop?  You have to question the work ethic of this guy. We saw what having a lazy player is like in Rios last night! Sutton is not capable of playing the OF adequately just like Bill Hall. Sutton dropped a Francoeur easy out in LF on Thursday he came around to score and the Sox lost by one run. Aviles is a much better athlete. He has a plus 11 UZR/150 at SS for his career. He can be a late inning defensive sub after pinch hitting against LHP. Navarro is not worthy of being a defensive replacement. A 2008 4th in ROTY voting, who kills lefties, 3 more years of control, and plays a great SS.   He could be the guy sent in to steal that vital post-season base, 10 of 12 this year.  Traded for a guy with effort problems. No brainer. Who would you rather have on the post-season roster?                
    Posted by tom-uk[/QUOTE]

    I understand Aviles is a GOOD, not great player. But the question everyone seems to avoid is.....

    Why didn't we just get an outfielder!!!!!! What good can come from making a IF all their life and OF? There were plenty of OF on the market.
     
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    Ortiz is ancient history...

    Dumpster diving on the current roster: Salty, Aceves, Albers, Miller, Morales, Aviles. A lot to like in that group.

    Miller hasn't been good, but the Sox are 7-1 in his eight starts. Only twice has he allowed more than three runs. A little luck, a little perseverance, and he has consistently survived.
     
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    DMac?
    Wake was an acient dumpster dive as well.
    Aceves was not sought after by many.
    Atchison.
    Rich Hill.

     

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