Eddie Gaedel

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    Eddie Gaedel

       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 


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    fun thoughts & good questions

    but I'm thinking if there was such a guy that could run fast enough to make up for his short strides

    we would have seen him

     

     

     

     

     

    do I get any points 4 not making a pedy joke ;-)

     
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    fun thoughts & good questions




    but I'm thinking if there was such a guy that could run fast enough to make up for his short strides




    we would have seen him




     




     




     




     




     







    do I get any points 4 not making a pedy joke ;-)




     






    [object HTMLDivElement]. It would be difficult to find a guy fast enough. But it could still be very useful in certain situations. And pinch runners could be used when it was needed. Being short has not hurt and maybe even helped Pedroia.


     

     
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    Gaedel wanted to swing a bat and Veeck told him there was a sniper in the stands ready to shoot him if he swung at a pitch, knowing he would walk on 4 pitches.

     
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    Gaedel wanted to swing a bat and Veeck told him there was a sniper in the stands ready to shoot him if he swung at a pitch, knowing he would walk on 4 pitches.




    [object HTMLDivElement]. It is all about working the count and drawing that base on balls. But I can't condone lying to the little guy and threatening him. Uncalled for. 

     
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    Sending a diminutive batter such as Eddie Gaedel, 3' 7", up to bat with two outs and the bases loaded would, in my opinion, result in more runs than what has been achieved in similar circumstances so far this season by the players currently on the roster.

    If a team can make room on the roster for a one-batter specialist out of the bullpen, why not a one appearance per game pinch hitter for critical at bats?

    Notin, where are you?  Statistically, what is the success rate so far in 2-out, bases loaded situations for the Sox this season?  

     
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    I think Joe Maddon might be receptive to this idea. I would suggest it to him except that, 1- I don't like the guy -----2 - I am a little leery of dealing with his witch doctor, " Eddie the Rainmaker."  But I do think some team should try it, especially when rosters expand. You could then even add three or four little guys and pinch run for them when they received the coveted and inevitable base on balls. 

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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    i don't think EG was barred rather the ability to have a player signed and used the way he was, was???

     
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    Herb Washington was signed exclusively to pinch run for the A's 

     
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    Herb Washington was signed exclusively to pinch run for the A's 




    [object HTMLDivElement].  He got picked off by Mike Marshall. After that , he was afraid to take a lead off the bag. Finley soon gave up on the idea. 

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?



    In a way, that's what Vince Wilfork is to the Pats D-Line...He simply takes up space. So really football has been using that model for years.

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?




    [object HTMLDivElement]   I can hear the announcer now, " Belly save and a beauty."

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?




    [object HTMLDivElement]   I can hear the announcer now, " Belly save and a beauty."



    The thing with this idea is it's too outside the box, but if a team did this, the rules would be changed that a goalie can only weigh up to a certain amount. However, I don't know if the goalie that caused this rule change would be grandfathered or not. It would make a mockery of the game, but isn't winning everything?

    Btw, there's not even a slim chance this idea would work in soccer, but there's a fat chance it might  work in lacrosse.

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?



    In a way, that's what Vince Wilfork is to the Pats D-Line...He simply takes up space. So really football has been using that model for years.



    I wonder if Wilfork would be interested in being a goalie; a lot less work.

     
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    Tuukka would disagree with you on the work part.

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?




    [object HTMLDivElement]   I can hear the announcer now, " Belly save and a beauty."



    The thing with this idea is it's too outside the box, but if a team did this, the rules would be changed that a goalie can only weigh up to a certain amount. However, I don't know if the goalie that caused this rule change would be grandfathered or not. It would make a mockery of the game, but isn't winning everything?

    Btw, there's not even a slim chance this idea would work in soccer, but there's a fat chance it might  work in lacrosse.




    [object HTMLDivElement]   In basketball, there is no limit on height. But they did create goal tending.  And the three second rule.

     
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       We have a thread referring to the height of current Red Sox. Now , being short is not necessarily a detriment  in baseball. For one thing, it provides a smaller strike zone. That brings to mind when Bill Veeck signed the diminutive Eddie Gaedel as a pinch hitter. (There was no D.H. at the time ) Basically, a publicity stunt, but pitchers could not throw him strikes. Therefore, Gaedel was banned from baseball. That begs the question: With the changes in society today regarding discrimination, could a " little person " be barred from MLB ? Could they impose a minimum height requirement? If not, what would stop an A.L. team from signing a person of extremely short stature, especially one who could run the bases decently, as a DH ? He would certainly have the greatest OBP in baseball history. ( These are the things I think about while contemplating what went wrong with our team this season ) Your thoughts? 

     

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    It's an intriguing idea. I had similar thoughts concerning hockey and specifically the BRUINS. There's no rule in any pro sport about a person's size, so I was thinking that the Bruins should look for an obese person of about 600 lbs  and have that person play goalie. His teammates would just wedge him into the net making sure there is no way a puck could slide by him.

    Things to be ironed out: the main thing would be that during the 2 intermissions he would have to stay in the net; it would take too long to remove and reinsert him. Actually, that's about the only problem I see, and I'm not sure that's even a problem.

    Anybody see anything I may have missed?




    [object HTMLDivElement]   I can hear the announcer now, " Belly save and a beauty."



    The thing with this idea is it's too outside the box, but if a team did this, the rules would be changed that a goalie can only weigh up to a certain amount. However, I don't know if the goalie that caused this rule change would be grandfathered or not. It would make a mockery of the game, but isn't winning everything?

    Btw, there's not even a slim chance this idea would work in soccer, but there's a fat chance it might  work in lacrosse.




    [object HTMLDivElement]   In basketball, there is no limit on height. But they did create goal tending.  And the three second rule.



    Chamberlin used to do a running dunk from the FT line, so they changed that rule too.

     
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    Tuukka would disagree with you on the work part.

    You misunderstood. Once Wilfork is jammed into the goal, he doesn't have to move at all.

     
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    Vince ain't that big...:-)

     
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