Re: Ellsbury in July--something new?
posted at 7/27/2011 3:23 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Ellsbury in July--something new?
[QUOTE]yeah, and this was the guy who most of you on this thread argued that he rightfully should have been moved to LF from CF, regardless of how truly ridiculous that it was considered to have a 38-year-old fossil play CF so that the speedy up-and-comer play LF....As for your thread, maxie, it's a rip of Ellsbury. The only base stealers in the history of baseball who could steal on a consistent basis from Gm 1 to Gm 162 were guys named Brock and Henderson. You can still find long periods for both at times where they didn't steal a base at all. It's really not a "trend." SBs come in bunches. Just like home runs. Guys can have a 13-homer month and follow it with 2 homer month. Should we check the cork in a bat or a urine test to see why the dropoff happen. Baseball is a game of ups, downs, streaks, and consistency in stealing bases is pretty much No. 71 on a list of things that don't matter. Sort of like this thread.
Posted by dannycater[/QUOTE]
The only guy advocating Cameron in CF and Ellsbury in LF, other than Softy, was Francona. This year practically everyone was delighted Ellsbury went back to CF. FWIW, in 2007 and 2008 Ellsbury showed he was pretty good in LF, RF, and CF.
Baseball is absolutely a game of streaks, but basestealing, which can vary a lot from game to game, tends to even out month to month.
That said, Here's how the top seven basestealers have fared this year, month by month--
Bourn: 11, 9, 14, 4
Reyes: 8, 11, 11, 1 (on DL)
Garder: 4, 6, 9, 12
Andrus: 8, 7, 9, 6
Davis: 3 (on DL), 12, 3, 11
Ellsbury: 5, 14, 6, 3
Crisp: 8, 8, 8, 3
I think it is fair to say that Ellsbury is the only one with one terrific month, May, the best month anyone in MLB had this season, and three slow months. This causes me to think that maybe something has changed.
Are you really saying that streaks, basestealing or otherwise, don't matter? Most people think streaks not only matter but are very much worth talking about. No one, for example, can forget Ortiz's streaks, good and bad, last year and the year before. Ditto Pedroia's streaks which have been legendary--right now he is on an incredible one. And just last month some of us were worried that his knee was holding him back, which was why he had gone cold. And guess what? Pedroia was even more worried that we were. When he got the good news that playing wasn't going to make the knee worse, he took off and hasn't come back to earth yet.