Re: Enough with Beckett bashing
posted at 8/3/2012 12:54 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Enough with Beckett bashing
[QUOTE]Well, for me, people still don;t get it about Beckett. I can accept losing. I can accept less-than-stellar performances. Here's a list of things i can't accept: -Consistently being out of shape when his profession demands otherwise -Whining about finding the snitch when he acted poorly. Snitch or not, he was wrong and his focus was totally unnacceptable -"18 days off" -"It's that important to all of YOU, but it isn't to me" when talking about his dedication to baseball, the Red Sox, Boston and the fans. -The star treatment that started with the limo after his ST game after Valentine stated everyone would be riding buses and treated the same. Now, maybe ownership made that call on their own...maybe. But, even if they did, Beckett had to be aware of what Valentine said. He should NOT have seperated himself from his teammates with preferential treatment. -And the capper to it all, he makes 'Ace' money, and doesn't even put in the effort. Not even a little. If he WAS, there wouldn't be so many OBVIOUS conditioning issues. So, fine, look at his stats, reminisce about the past, twist and justify it however you want. He is obviously divisive and a lightning rod. Fan, media or Beckett HIMSELF created matters little at this point. His mere presence is dragging the whole team down and I don't understand how so many miss that. Ignore those SIX points I laid out if you want, they are mostly facts. His performance has not been there overall, and ESPECIALLY when it's mattered most. On top of that, his attitude is ATROCIOUS. On top of THAT, he gets paid a fortune to underperform and have a bad attitude about it. Yeah, go ahead and cheer. Sheep.
Posted by ma6dragon9[/QUOTE]
I appreciate your list - but I would like to know how these are facts.
Where is the "fact" that he is out of shape. Do we have the facts from the Red Sox where they say he is out of shape? I haven't seen them. If there is - can you please provide the link. Otherwise I think that is your opinion.
I am not even sure if he used the word "snitch" - I do know he made some brief comments about the locker room. He did say he "made mistakes" - but also said what happens in the clubhouse - stays in the clubhouse. I actually support that. They are at that park for most of the afternoon and night. The clubhouse should be their private area - the media should NOT be in there. After he made his statement - UNLESS SOME MEDIA person asked - he never brought it up again. I wouldn't call that whining. Again - seems like that is your opinion.
"18 days off" - I am giving you that one - it is a fact.
I actually think Josh was discussing having a family now and baseball not being his top priority and it shouldn't be. Lester said basically the exact same thing a couple of weeks ago - NOTHING was mention of that. He said he is a father and husband first - that is what is most important to him. When he leaves the park - he leaves everything that is going on at the park. Top priority his family - AS IT SHOULD BE!
I actually believe that several starting pitchers took limos - not just Beckett - but of course he was the only one that was written about. Since they were only playing 2 innings - they were all allowed to leave before the game was over.
Please provide the facts of the conditioning issues.
Please provide the facts of him having a bad attitude in the clubhouse - with teammates, coaches and FO. I am not talking about your opinions or media opinions. I want the facts - I want stories or incidents of him having trouble or a bad attitude with any of his teammates, coaches and/or FO. I think how he acts with them is all that matters. He doesn't have to be media friendly or be a nice guy.
This entire Beckett crap is ridiculous. It is all based on opinions and it has gotten out of control. Do he seem like a nice guy to me? No - not at all and I don't care. I care that he goes out and pitches and that is it. I could care less if he talks to the media - that is not important at all.
Speaking of facts - look at some of the FACTS that people have provided regarding Beckett and his pitching stats this year. He hasn't been as bad as you and the media wants people to believe.
While your comment was fun to read - it was all opinion - NOT FACTS.