Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    you settle for BV and the 2 games under .500. I'd prefer to watch this team make an effort to win. They can't do that under BV, clearly they can't.
     
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    Interesting.  First because Lester has in fact--you can look it up--improved since giving up those 11 runs and 4 dingers in 4+ innings.  Definitely harsh, but maybe that is what was needed to wake him up. Second because I have thought of AGon as supportive of Bobby V.  He was more than willing to play RF no less than 16 times to get Ortiz and then Youk into Bobby's lineup.  Third because the guy writing the article also clearly has an agenda--hammer Bobby V without mercy.  Zero positive points in the article.  Fourth because, if the article is right and the players are after all is said and done listened to and Bobby V is fired at the end of the season, this will be the second manager let go in two seasons--with apparently no blame accruing to the players.  The players weren't at fault last year because Francona lost control.  The players aren't at fault this year because of too much control or bad communications or bad breath or whatever.   The Sox players may be more powerful--or more adroit--than the MLBPA.  Maybe AGon and Pedroia will interview the managerial applicants at the end of the season.  Fifth, because apparently the Sox players are split on the issue. 
    Posted by maxbialystock


    How about the lies the media tells? Or is only a lie when it doesn't fit our beliefs?
     
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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    I dont know how many of you work at a corporation, in a management level position, but this is how it works. Chain of command. You go to the higher up and it trickles down from there.


    If true, why the hate for Gonzo? He had Lester's back. Regardless, it speaks volumes about what the players think of Valentine, They can't all be wrong and why I believe he hadn't gotten a managers job in MLB for 10 years, until his friend LL gave him one 

     
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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    LMAO..lies? Everything that has been written has been proven true!!! the meeting took place, alibi. BV's comments about Youkilis took place. BV's Middlebrooks comment took place. Lies? Try truths. 
     
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    Jay, help me out here. Apparently, the fans here are completely happy to have this guy manage and want to take out their frustrations on basically the only true All-Star on the team this season--Gonzalez.
     
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    The problems with this team are beyond ANY argument.  Major changes must be made!  I wish he could be the 3rd person sacked, but Bobby V. must go NOW!YES!!!!!!!   It should be some of the players first, but we would simply be selling low.  It's not fair, but if we have any chance at making one final run, it's got to start TODAY!  It's worth a try, as he is not coming back next year anyway. 

    TODAY!  Warn players, any problem whatsoever, YOU WILL BE BENCHED! 
     
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    The ownership screwed up, the upper executives feel that if they fired BV it would be admitting that they let the players run the asylum, which they always have even under Tito. But because BV was supposed to be the anti-Tito, they would rather forfeit the rest of 2012 to prove a point. Just like the fans who have their ostrich heads in the sand about BV and who think that Lester and Beckett are the Roots of All Evil.
     
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    If true, why the hate for Gonzo? he had Lester's back. Regardless, it speaks volumes about what the players think of Valentine, They can't all be wrong and why I believe he hadn't gotten a managers job in MLB for 10 years, until his friend LL gave him one 
    Posted by J-BAY


    Lots of truth in your post!  The players may all be whining snivling brats, but Bobby V. still must go.  However he lost the team, he must go!
     
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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    It is funny how the media is always making things up to cause trouble.  Except , of course , when they are saying something that you want to hear. Then it is good reporting. Hypocrisy rules.
     
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    17 players, guess that was a small minority group (25-player roster)
     
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    It shows that there were eight good men. Eight stand-up guys. I would like to know the names.  Whatever their opinion of the manager, to cry to ownership like that is pathetic.
     
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    In Response to Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction? : Lots of truth in your post!  The players may all be whining snivling brats, but Bobby V. still must go.  However he lost the team, he must go!
    Posted by redsoxdirtdog


    There's truth in numbers. If the majority of 25 guys feel the same way, there is something to it. When a guy like Gonzalez, who is as mild mannered as they come is involved, is very telling, IMO.
     
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    17 players, guess that was a small minority group (25-player roster)
    Posted by dannycater


    While the players are likely the root of the problem, Bobby V. has simply lost the team. 

    This can't go on!  The Sox have been the biggest joke in the MLB for a full year!  Bobby's gotta go NOW!  Not his fault, but it must happen! 

    Today!  Then openly challenge the entire team to shut up & PLAY!  Play for your life in Boston!  Every single one of them!
     
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    It shows that there were eight good men. Eight stand-up guys. I would like to know the names.  Whatever their opinion of the manager, to cry to ownership like that is pathetic.
    Posted by dgalehouse


    Why, gale? It happens everyday in corporate America. The work horses band together against upper management.
     
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    In Response to Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction? : While the players are likely the root of the problem, Bobby V. has simply lost the team.  This can't go on!  The Sox have been the biggest joke in the MLB for a full year!  Bobby's gotta go NOW!  Not his fault, but it must happen!  Today!  Then openly challenge the entire team to shut up & PLAY!  Play for your life in Boston!  Every single one of them!
    Posted by redsoxdirtdog


    dirts, That's what I've been saying since I had a fire BV thread back in May. It's not his fault, but he's got to go because the team atmosphere is toxic.

     
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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    What a whinny bunch of losers! maybe if they put as much effort on the field as they do into their crying they would be in the wild card hunt! Lost a lot of respect for DP and the rest of these bums.
     
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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    oh & p.s.

    I absolutely think bobby v. is a joke!  Whatever the case, he must go!  He's earned his firing!
     
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    Re: Exclusive: Red Sox stars blast manager Bobby Valentine in heated July meeting with ownership-Your Reaction?

    They don't want to play for him, that's the bottom line. Under .500 for a reason. And no it's not just Beckett/Lester.
     
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