Farrell v. Valentine

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    Totally forced but somewhat sincere?   hahaha.  

     
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    In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:

    Totally forced but somewhat sincere?   hahaha.  



    i dont think he wanted to be out there but i think he felt bad about the way it came out...

     
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    Totally forced but somewhat sincere?   hahaha.  

     



    i dont think he wanted to be out there but i think he felt bad about the way it came out...

     



    OK, fair enough.  Subjectivity is subjectivity.  he looked perfectly comfortable out there and sounded completely sincere to me.

    I also believe that, because I believe he was sincere in being accountable for his poor performance, he was frustrated by the poor performace.  And then, piled on top of that, frustrated by getting pummeled in the media (part and parcel to being a ballplayer, especially in Boston, so I am not calling 'Poor Jon', comes with the territory), he said some stupid a$& s*&t the other day.

    I just don't lend as much weight to those stupid a$& comments as you have chosen to do.  In fact, i give them practically zero weight, other than in an "ooph, he is going to get hammered for saying that stupid a$& s*&t" way which probably caused, as you suggest, the FO or Farrell or, who knows, maybe David Ortiz, to say "hey jonny, that was some stupid a$& s*^t you said.  Why don't you get the press boys together and sort that out".  So he did, saying what seemed to me to be some straight-talk, stand-up stuff.  Which, to be honest, i don't  care too much about either.  

    I just have heard ball players, athletes, in the limelight say some stupid a$& s*^t out of frustration before.  I generally don't lend it much credence.  It is an easy pitfall when you make your living in a highly competitive arena under heavy scrutiny.  Hardly a sin and one that doesn't need my forgiveness.  

     

     

     
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    In response to selenium's comment:

    In your study hall room, why not pass out copies of the WEEI interview from a few days ago to the students and ask them to read it, comprehend it in totality and context and then write their opinions. After they are finished, pass out a copy of what your opinions were from here and have them critique it. You might learn something. Don't take their responses personally however. It sounds like a great excercise for a history teacher to do with his students.




    they would agree with me...they are sharp

     
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    I was not impressed by the hire of last place JF by the Sox that actually cost us Aviles. He was part of the Francona Club-Med years and I expected little from him.....

    however....

    I think that he will be the pitching whisperer that the pitchers need to improve their dismal 2012 performance (as much as he can) and more importantly, I think he will straighten out this group of remaining 2011 ingrates like Lester. Look at how quickly Lester turned it around from his WEEI interview a couple days ago. Im sure upper management wasnt pleased but getting Lester out there to give that mea culpa was all JF (which was totally forced butsomewhat sincere imo)

    No more whining on the mound was the big part of the new Lester speech. Stepping up and leading...good stuff. I'm thinking this never wouldve been corrected if Bobby Valentine were still at the helm. He either would told Lester that everyone can f off and he shouldnt have to apologize, or if he did try, Lester would not have done it. It's apparent that lester respects and listen to farrell...thoughts?


     

    Don't just look at John's managing, hopefully that will improve with time.  I look at Farrell possibly having more of an impact on the staff and in the clubhouse.  I think he will manage as well or better than Bobby V. and Francona when he came aboard but with a less talented "but happier" team. 

     
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    I'm very pleased with Farrell as our manager, but he, or anyone else who the Sox might have hired, is not going to single handedly be the savior to this team after 2012.  

    That said, I think he will do a very good job and I know that he will be a big improvement over Valentine.  I feel like he has the trust and respect of his players, which was something that was sorely lacking last season.

     

     
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    I'm very pleased with Farrell as our manager, but he, or anyone else who the Sox might have hired, is not going to single handedly be the savior to this team after 2012.  

    That said, I think he will do a very good job and I know that he will be a big improvement over Valentine.  I feel like he has the trust and respect of his players, which was something that was sorely lacking last season.

     



    Yupppp!

     
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    It really doesnt matter what JF did or didnt do in toronto. It matter how THIS team responds to him. So far so good.

     
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    I'm very pleased with Farrell as our manager, but he, or anyone else who the Sox might have hired, is not going to single handedly be the savior to this team after 2012.  

    That said, I think he will do a very good job and I know that he will be a big improvement over Valentine.  I feel like he has the trust and respect of his players, which was something that was sorely lacking last season.

     



    From what little I've heard, it's positive.  No one here has much of an idea about what Farrell is all about.  But he seems to be sticking to BB commentary, and keeping his comments to a minimum.  It seems like he is intent on this being all about BB, instead of the circus we saw last year.

     
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    I am not impressed by Farrell either.  But the players seem to like him so why not go that route.  He obviously knows about pitching and he will handle the media better then Bobby.




    I do not blame Farrell for Toronto's poor season.  The Blue Jays lost three starters in a four-day span and then they lost Bautista. 

    Before Bautista got injured, I think the Blue Jays were second in the AL in runs scored (behind the Yankees).

    Like the Red Sox, the Blue Jays dealt with a lot of injuries. 

    Anyway, you are right--Farrell will handle the media better than Bobby. 

     

     
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    In response to RedSoxKimmi's comment:

     

    I'm very pleased with Farrell as our manager, but he, or anyone else who the Sox might have hired, is not going to single handedly be the savior to this team after 2012.  

    That said, I think he will do a very good job and I know that he will be a big improvement over Valentine.  I feel like he has the trust and respect of his players, which was something that was sorely lacking last season.

     

     



    From what little I've heard, it's positive.  No one here has much of an idea about what Farrell is all about.  But he seems to be sticking to BB commentary, and keeping his comments to a minimum.  It seems like he is intent on this being all about BB, instead of the circus we saw last year.

     

     



    http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2013/02/with_farrell_th.html

     

    from the article:

    In new manager John Farrell, the Red Sox are placing a safer bet. Today, as the team went through its first full-squad workout, the difference in style was hard to miss.

    When third base coach Brian Butterfield gathered a group of players around him to explain a base-running drill, Farrell stood five feet away listening. In the bullpen, Farrell only occasionally interjected his opinion to a pitcher. He left it to pitching coach Juan Nieves to say the most.

    Unlike last season, you had to look around to find the manager, not listen.


    I like what i'm hearing about Farrell so far. unlike BV he is allowing his coaches to coach and not contradicting them

     
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    Valentine was set up to fail.

     
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    Valentine was set up to fail.




    Valentine set himself up to fail.

     
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    Valentine was set up to fail.



    Little did anyone know that he needed no help.

     
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