Five CRAZY Ways To Fix Sox

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    Five CRAZY Ways To Fix Sox

    1. Make Pedroia a player-manager. Insane? Of course. But why not? Get him a quality bench coach (no, not Tito) and a quality pitching coach and let him change the freakin atmosphere and the fans perceptions. Who else can do it?

    2. Trade A-Gon to Dodgers straight up for Adam Eithier, Pedey's best pal. A-Gon will never fit in Boston after describing the greatest collape in basebal history as "God's will". That stuff don't fly in Beantown.

    3. Make the Mariners a Don Corleone offer for King Felix....Lester, Ellsbury, Iglesias, Ranudo and Bard. If you have to substitue Barnes for Bard do it.

    4. Sweet talk the Astros everyday into taking Texas schoolboy legends Crawford and Beckett. You'll get jack in return and probably pay 70 cents on the dollar but it will be worth it to wipe the slate clean.

    5. Offer Lackey the moon to leave town.

    What are you left with? A starting rotation of King Felix, Bucholtz. Dubront, Aceves and Morales. Pick up a bunch more of the Cook, Rich Hill types.
    You can trade Iglesias because you have Marrero, Bogaerts and the Taiwan kid playing short.
    And yes, it is insane to give up your best pitching prospects but reality is prospects are 50/50 at best. What kind of year did Casey Kelley have? For the Sox to be relevant again then MUST HAVE King Felix. Ellsbury is a goner soon enough, Kalish can play CF till Bradley is ready.
    You find a 1B and LF somewhere, maybe Loney at 1B and if you have to go with Aviles and Ross at short and left for another year do it.

    Things really are THAT BAD. Bandaids aint gonna fix this mess. Ben's gotta get drunk and make some calls.

     
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    [QUOTE]1. Make Pedroia a player-manager. Insane? Of course. But why not? Get him a quality bench coach (no, not Tito) and a quality pitching coach and let him change the freakin atmosphere and the fans perceptions. Who else can do it? 2. Trade A-Gon to Dodgers straight up for Adam Eithier, Pedey's best pal. A-Gon will never fit in Boston after describing the greatest collape in basebal history as "God's will". That stuff don't fly in Beantown. 3. Make the Mariners a Don Corleone offer for King Felix....Lester, Ellsbury, Iglesias, Ranudo and Bard. If you have to substitue Barnes for Bard do it. 4. Sweet talk the Astros everyday into taking Texas schoolboy legends Crawford and Beckett. You'll get jack in return and probably pay 70 cents on the dollar but it will be worth it to wipe the slate clean. 5. Offer Lackey the moon to leave town. What are you left with? A starting rotation of King Felix, Bucholtz. Dubront, Aceves and Morales. Pick up a bunch more of the Cook, Rich Hill types. You can trade Iglesias because you have Marrero, Bogaerts and the Taiwan kid playing short. And yes, it is insane to give up your best pitching prospects but reality is prospects are 50/50 at best. What kind of year did Casey Kelley have? For the Sox to be relevant again then MUST HAVE King Felix. Ellsbury is a goner soon enough, Kalish can play CF till Bradley is ready. You find a 1B and LF somewhere, maybe Loney at 1B and if you have to go with Aviles and Ross at short and left for another year do it. Things really are THAT BAD. Bandaids aint gonna fix this mess. Ben's gotta get drunk and make some calls.
    Posted by pumpsiefan[/QUOTE]

    Ben may get drunk, and really, who could blame him, but I don't see any big blockbuster trades or acquisitions, this off season.
     
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    [QUOTE] 3. Make the Mariners a Don Corleone offer for King Felix....Lester, Ellsbury, Iglesias, Ranudo and Bard. If you have to substitue Barnes for Bard do it.
    Posted by pumpsiefan[/QUOTE]
    That sounds more like a Pee Wee Herman offer for Felix Hernandez.
     
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    A-Gon is a fit.  Look at his RBI numbers over the last two years.  Nobody cares if he's religious, political, out-spoken, gay, soft-spoken.

    Just drive in runs.  And he has.

    Not against Pedey as a player / manager and not against bringing in Ethier.  Against trading AGON though. 

    Mariners turn that offer down.  1 year of Ells, a struggling (and not overly cheap) Lester, Renaudo has fallen.  The trade would have to be Barnes, and I dont think that gets it done.

    You can talk to the Stros all you want.  They arent going to take those contracts.

    Starting to think that Lackey was not the reason for the collapse.  It seems like he may even add to the clubhouse.  We just dont know.
    But if the M's are willing to give Felix for Inglesias, Barnes, Renaudo , Brentz (?) we should absolutely consider it.  THey dont want Ells/Lester.
     
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    That will fix the Sox , all right. Sounds like a recipe for a 100 loss team , with a dim future.  Better keep Ben away from the Jack Daniels.
     
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    I have a crazy idea on how to fix this team.....time. Think of someone trying to fix someone who is fat and overweight (maybe from chicken and beer). All these crazy trades and wanting to unload people are like the nice new fad diet that either doesn't work or works for 2 weeks while you lose water weight. They don't work or people put the weight back on because they don't make life style changes.....you don't get fat over night so you can't het skinny over night either. People who successfully transform their bodies and become healthy make lifestyle changes and slowly over time they get better and STAY that way. This team is no different, they need healthy habits and healthy behavior over time. We have to except that this team will reap what they sow. No one is going to take those big on contracts, no one is going to pay Josh Beckett 15 million a year to pitch elsewhere and replace him with the Aaron cooks of the world, we need to stop panicking and want to gut the minor leagues to get best players in MLB. We need to wait it out. Let the minor league get strong, don't sign big contracts for a few years. Let the payroll come down. And In a few years we will have a strong minor league system, young guys already competing (Barnes, Bradley, Bogaerts) and the payroll flexibility to go out and make a huge free agent acquisition. (when you can afford it paying a Manny Ramirez or a Pedro Martinez can pay huge dividends) So there you have it.....wait it out and be patient and we can be a championship caliber team in 2 or 3 years.....and if these guys start playing (at least some of them isn't unreasonable) up to their talent then we should even be able to compete over the next two years. And if we don't well then we haven't dug deeper cause you can't dig our way out of a mess.
     
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    No offense, but your Felix Hernandez "offer the Mariners can't refuse" is senseless.

    Learn about the needs of different franchises before making such suggestions...try looking at it from the other team's point of view. Maybe play fantasy baseball first (that will teach you to consider the other team in offers...if you don't, you'll get frequently and deservedly insulted).

    The Mariners won't value Ellsbury highly, as he only has one year of control. That makes a HUGE difference. Lester has value, but it makes little sense for Boston to sell low on him. Iglesias and Ranaudo have value, but they're more of a secondary piece type in this kind of deal. Bard is damaged goods, at least for the moment.

    Start any deal with Bradley and Barnes, plus include at least Iglesias on top of other pieces. That will at least get Seattle's attention.

    But, of course, that would be a crazy price to pay...better to hold on to your young/cheap assests, as they are required for any healthy organization in baseball.
     
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    Stopped reading at Adam Eithier, is he Andre's brother?
     
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    Why would you trade Agon? To me that makes very little sense. He's extreamly productive. Makes very little sense.
     
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    [QUOTE]Stopped reading at Adam Either, is he Andre's brother?
    Posted by poprox13[/QUOTE]

    His other brother Adam Or
     
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    [QUOTE]1. Make Pedroia a player-manager. Insane? Of course. But why not? Get him a quality bench coach (no, not Tito) and a quality pitching coach and let him change the freakin atmosphere and the fans perceptions. Who else can do it? 2. Trade A-Gon to Dodgers straight up for Adam Eithier, Pedey's best pal. A-Gon will never fit in Boston after describing the greatest collape in basebal history as "God's will". That stuff don't fly in Beantown. 3. Make the Mariners a Don Corleone offer for King Felix....Lester, Ellsbury, Iglesias, Ranudo and Bard. If you have to substitue Barnes for Bard do it. 4. Sweet talk the Astros everyday into taking Texas schoolboy legends Crawford and Beckett. You'll get jack in return and probably pay 70 cents on the dollar but it will be worth it to wipe the slate clean. 5. Offer Lackey the moon to leave town. What are you left with? A starting rotation of King Felix, Bucholtz. Dubront, Aceves and Morales. Pick up a bunch more of the Cook, Rich Hill types. You can trade Iglesias because you have Marrero, Bogaerts and the Taiwan kid playing short. And yes, it is insane to give up your best pitching prospects but reality is prospects are 50/50 at best. What kind of year did Casey Kelley have? For the Sox to be relevant again then MUST HAVE King Felix. Ellsbury is a goner soon enough, Kalish can play CF till Bradley is ready. You find a 1B and LF somewhere, maybe Loney at 1B and if you have to go with Aviles and Ross at short and left for another year do it. Things really are THAT BAD. Bandaids aint gonna fix this mess. Ben's gotta get drunk and make some calls.
    Posted by pumpsiefan[/QUOTE]


    With all due respect, you need to be more realistic. 

    But thank you for sharing your ideas. 
     
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    i would start by firing the pitching coach
     
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    [QUOTE]i would start by firing the pitching coach
    Posted by OutoftownPATSfan[/QUOTE]

    He's been fired.  Laughing
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Five CRAZY Ways To Fix Sox : He's been fired. 
    Posted by Ice-Cream[/QUOTE]
    well.... thats a start
     
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