For Theo and those who still worship Tek

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    For Theo and those who still worship Tek

    Yes I'm talking about fans like harness and moonslav who try to claim their brilliance every day yet can't see whats right in front of them.  Varitek hurts our team more than helps these days as evident by the embarrasing throwing arm we witnessed last night that ultimately helped the Jays win.

    Tek can't run, hit, throw or even call a decent game very often these days.  He is probably the worst captain statistic wise in baseball so what is there for the team to look up to?  Salty will never grow as a player with a guy like Tek as a mentor.  We need an established catcher who can help our team when needed, not a liability.  A 154 BA, 453 OPS and no other tangible tools other than knowing our pitchers after 12 plus years as any catcher should won't cut it.

    Theo, it's time to make a real move with Tek and Wake before another season is lost. 
     
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    Yes I'm talking about fans like harness and moonslav who try to claim their brilliance every day yet can't see whats right in front of them.  Varitek hurts our team more than helps these days as evident by the embarrasing throwing arm we witnessed last night that ultimately helped the Jays win. Tek can't run, hit, throw or even call a decent game very often these days.   He is probably the worst captain statistic wise in baseball so what is there for the team to look up to?   Salty will never grow as a player with a guy like Tek as a mentor.  We need an established catcher who can help our team when needed, not a liability.  A 154 BA, 453 OPS and no other tangible tools other than knowing our pitchers after 12 plus years as any catcher should won't cut it. Theo , it's time to make a real move with Tek and Wake before another season is lost. 
    Posted by FarmFan


    WHAT NO RESPONSE FROM THE TEK SUPPORTERS TODAY?
     
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    but tito and the players like both TEK and WAKE.
    and THEO loves SALTY, almost as much as he loved LUGO.

    so, get used to the one-two-three  punchless trio of TEK, SALTY, AND WAKE.
    THEO has got to stop falling in love.

     
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    a couple years ago Tek was voted in the AS game by his peers with a 230 avg. why, because most MLB pitchers wanted him to catch them because of how he runs a game. Im not disputing your argument that he is a liability with his arm and bat..He is..But to say he cant call a game is just plain wrong and takes some credit away from your argument. Salty got another RBI hit last night and is starting to do some good things consistently. You have some valid points that I agree with, but to say he cant call a game and is not a good mentor is where you lost me.
     
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    but tito and the players like both TEK and WAKE. and THEO loves SALTY, almost as much as he loved LUGO. so, get used to the one-two-three  punchless trio of TEK, SALTY, AND WAKE. THEO has got to stop falling in love.
    Posted by theyaz


    I'm a Theo supporter and appreciate the accusitions of Crawford and Adrian that were desperately needed and will eventually help us a great deal.  My problem with Theo is the catching position period where Tek has been a flop since 2006.  He rebounded a bit in 07 and has been awful ever since both offensively and keeping runners at bay.  So Theo finally makes a change by trading for Victor which improved the offense dramatically, although defensively he was about the same as Tek.  So where are we now?  Back to watching one of the worst players in baseball try and mentor a kid like Salty with basically "one tool" calling a decent game in which any 12 plus year veteran with a decent staff could do.

    THEO HAS DROPPED THE BALL ENTIRELY AT THE CATCHING POSITION.
     
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    a couple years ago Tek was voted in the AS game by his peers with a 230 avg. why, because most MLB pitchers wanted him to catch them because of how he runs a game. Im not disputing your argument that he is a liability with his arm and bat..He is..But to say he cant call a game is just plain wrong and takes some credit away from your argument. Salty got another RBI hit last night and is starting to do some good things consistently. You have some valid points that I agree with, but to say he cant call a game and is not a good mentor is where you lost me.
    Posted by southpaw777


    southpaw, Nobody wanted Tek when he became a FA and thought so highly of himself so he came crawling back to Boston on his hands and knees to finally accept the money he was actually worth.  To say most major league pitchers wanted Tek to catch them is crazy.  Tek has been fortunate to catch staffs other catchers only dream of and his experience in catching a good game comes from years behind the plate.  He has nothing else to offer any team in baseball and thats the bottom line.
     
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    Whoa, whoa here. 

    First of all, those two stolen bases weren't stolen off 'tek's arm, they were stolen because the runner can flat-out fly.  'Tek in his prime wouldn't have gotten either of them.  Question;  When Ellsbury steals a base is it because the catcher couldn't throw him out or because Ells is fast??

     
     
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    If only Tek and Wake weren't on the team.  All of the teams problems would be solved.  Because clearly Wake and Tek's presence on the team has been causing Youk to stirke out more than usual, and Pedroia to go into a slump, and JD Drews' bat to be particularly anemic.  And had the 2 not been on the team coming out of spring training, Crawford would have been batting 350 with power on day one and Gonzo would have 50 home runs by now.
     
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    If only Tek and Wake weren't on the team.  All of the teams problems would be solved.  Because clearly Wake and Tek's presence on the team has been causing Youk to stirke out more than usual, and Pedroia to go into a slump, and JD Drews' bat to be particularly anemic.  And had the 2 not been on the team coming out of spring training, Crawford would have been batting 350 with power on day one and Gonzo would have 50 home runs by now.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    dirtwater you are missing the point.  The point is Tek has been a weakness every year which should be addressed like others sooner rather than years later.
     
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    It's a bit ironic that we didn't re-sign Vmart because Theo thought he was a defensive liability and couldn't catch beyond ager 34. Now we have two guys that are far worse than Victor and one that is catching half the games at age 39, because the pitchers don't want to work with Salty.
    As long as Varitek is on this team, Saltalamacchia will never have the confidence or playing time to mature.
     
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    If only Tek and Wake weren't on the team.  All of the teams problems would be solved.  Because clearly Wake and Tek's presence on the team has been causing Youk to stirke out more than usual, and Pedroia to go into a slump, and JD Drews' bat to be particularly anemic.  And had the 2 not been on the team coming out of spring training, Crawford would have been batting 350 with power on day one and Gonzo would have 50 home runs by now.
    Posted by DirtyWaterLover


    Just think how much better Lackey and Dice-K would have pitched if Wake and Varitek weren't on the team.
     
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    It's a bit ironic that we didn't re-sign Vmart because Theo thought he was a defensive liability and couldn't catch beyond ager 34. Now we have two guys that are far worse than Victor and one that is catching half the games at age 39, because the pitchers don't want to work with Salty. As long as Varitek is on this team, Saltalamacchia will never have the confidence or playing time to mature.
    Posted by Alibiike


    A catcher like Y. Molina, after two years in Boston could make Variteks career look like a water boy.  He can hit, throw, play D. and call a good game but has not had the opportunity to catch great pitchers like Tek has.
     
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    Y moline is okay hes average with the bat but superiour with the glove like his brothers. How can you rip on varitek like that framfan it doesnt make any sense. Example why would molina, who plays in the national league and is from a family of catchers that have never really been able to hit magically going to tear it up in boston. Varitek has been a mainstay in boston since 97. He has one two championships, beem to 3 allstar games and started one of them, caught four no hitters and was made captain of the boston red sox. Regardless of how you feel about him now its unfair to rip on his career. You are acting like the prime example of why boston fans are so unbearable right now, you dont need a team of allstars you need a team that gels together. And frankly i couldnt disagree with you more, tek mentoring salty is the best thing that could happen, if salties career is half as good as teks, then salty will have a solid career. Also most teams dont have captains it was silly when the sox did it but he really is a calm and veteran pressence and has been for sometime.

    And niz dice k has been pretty good this year, except for one start guess whos been catching him since that start?

     
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    In Response to Re: For Theo and those who still worship Tek : A catcher like Y. Molina, after two years in Boston could make Variteks career look like a water boy.  He can hit, throw, play D. and call a good game but has not had the opportunity to catch great pitchers like Tek has.
    Posted by FarmFan


    Yadier has caught some really staffs in St. Louis, certainly on par with Sox staffs of recent years.  Anyway, why do you keep bringing this up.  There is no chance the Cards move him.
     
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    It's a bit ironic that we didn't re-sign Vmart because Theo thought he was a defensive liability and couldn't catch beyond ager 34. Now we have two guys that are far worse than Victor and one that is catching half the games at age 39, because the pitchers don't want to work with Salty. As long as Varitek is on this team, Saltalamacchia will never have the confidence or playing time to mature.
    Posted by Alibiike


    To be fair, the non-signing of VMart was absolutely the right move when taken on it's own.  He is a defensive liability, and there are legitimate questions about how he'll age as a player.  Still, it left the team with a gaping hole at catcher.

    Also, I'm not sure Varitek's presence on the team is having that huge of an affect on Salty's maturation process.  He's had a few years to show he can hit major league pitching, and he hasn't been able to do it.  I'm not saying that he can't or won't...I'm just saying Varitek's presence probably isn't the reason behind it. 

    Of course, that's meant with all due respect...seriously, not facetiously.
     
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    The Red Sox are effectively using a 22 man roster. Mac and Cameron are seldom used, so one needs to go. Wakefield is Wakefield, and Tek is Tek. Roster adjustments need to be made. Wakefield said he wouldn't rule out playing elsewhere. I think that's a perfect time to deal him for a bag of peanuts.
     
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    The Red Sox are effectively using a 22 man roster. Mac and Cameron are seldom used, so one needs to go. Wakefield is Wakefield, and Tek is Tek. Roster adjustments need to be made. Wakefield said he wouldn't rule out playing elsewhere. I think that's a perfect time to deal him for a bag of peanuts.
    Posted by majorleague


    wrong barb at the end there.  you are supposed to say "for an order of potato salad".
     
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    We lost last night because our presumptive ace gave up five runs and two dingers and Bard gave up a third dinger.    And we had 16 hits but just 6 runs.  Youk went 0 for whatever.  Crawford couldn't make it home from second on a single to LF.  Ellsbury got picked off at second (however, after Pedroia walked, largely because of Ellsbury on the basepaths, Gonzalez and Youkilis both struck out).   And so on.

     
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    Tek still plays? I thought he was a bench coach or something.
     
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    In Response to Re: For Theo and those who still worship Tek : Yadier has caught some really staffs in St. Louis, certainly on par with Sox staffs of recent years.  Anyway, why do you keep bringing this up.  There is no chance the Cards move him.
    Posted by SpacemanEephus


    Yadier may not be on the trading block but I bet my last dollar he will get a hefty offer from the Sox if he hits the market next season.  The Cards will have a difficult time signing him and Albert.  There is talk today the Sox may be interested in Bengie in the meantime who I will also glady take over Tek.  Bengie is a clutch hitter in the post season and can call a game as good as anyone.
     
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    You use more nicknames than Tito does. No nickname for Yadier?
     
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    We lost last night because our presumptive ace gave up five runs and two dingers and Bard gave up a third dinger.    And we had 16 hits but just 6 runs.  Youk went 0 for whatever.  Crawford couldn't make it home from second on a single to LF.  Ellsbury got picked off at second (however, after Pedroia walked, largely because of Ellsbury on the basepaths, Gonzalez and Youkilis both struck out).   And so on.
    Posted by maxbialystock
    I second this opinion.

    Also, we let Martinez walk with the intent of getting Gonzalez.  Is nobody but me ok with that?

     
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    YOU GUYS REALLY CAN'T DEFEND TEK ANY MORE. IT'S RIGHT THERE IN
    FRONT OF US EVERY NITE. THERE ARE STILL IDIOTS WHO DEFEND
    SALTY. WE SAW HOW GOOD SALTY WAS TONITE, IN THE 9-3 DEBACLE.
    HE IS A DISASTER...BOTTOM LINE. WHOEVER THOUGHT OF SIGNING
    THIS GUY, GOTTA SEE A BASEBALL HEADSHRINK !! POOR SCOUTING,
    ALONG THE LINES THAT BROUGHT US THE GREAT MIKE CAMERON.
    WHAT WAS IT ?? $9 MILLION FOR CAMERON. AND YOU CALL THEO
    EPSTEIN A SHARP , UP AND COMING GM. THE GUY SIGNED LACKEY,
    TOO. OK, AGON WAS A GOOD SIGN, BUT SO WHAT !! THE YANKS GOT
    GRANDERSON AT A STEAL, FOR A BAG OF BALLS....JACKSON & COKE.
    WHOOPEE, DETROIT...LIVE WITH IT. THE YANKS HAVE MARTIN AND
    CERVELLI AT THE C SPOT. WE GOT SALTY AND TEK. WHO WOULD YOU
    RATHER HAVE BEHIND THE DISH. CASE CLOSED. THEO MUST GO,
    AND TAKE FRANCONA WITH HIM. HENRY SHOULD FIRE THEM BOTH,
    BUT HE DOESN'T CARE...AND DOESN'T HAVE THE GUTS. HE IS NOT
    A BASEBALL PERSON LIKE THE STEINBRENNERS ARE.
     
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