Re: Francona's Indians - last place and nowhere to hide...
posted at 5/7/2013 10:19 AM EDT
In response to LloydDobler's comment:
In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:
I think the main thing missing in the anti-Tito rhetoric is an understanding that managers, in this day and age, are somewhat expendable. There are no "wizards" anymore. Mike Scioscia is supposedly a "wizard" and his teams are perpetual underachievers and pretenders. I guess maddon could be a "wizard", so, there's one ... But Joe Torre was no wizard. He had great players. Same with Francona. I agree that Francona is not some sort of managerial genius. he was, like most decent managers, in the right place at the right time, and did a few key things that may have helped put the club over the top, twice. But that doesn't take away from the fact that he managed the club through two titles and just missed a third world series. He wasn't the reason those clubs were succesful. But he facilitated their success. and thats what managers do these days, facilitate. Or in Grady Little's case: get in the way in the most crucial moment. Its a players game, always has been. Nowadays particularly so. The Manager fosters an environment. Thats about it.
Yup. Couldn't have said it better myself.
But as for Grady, I can't help thinking of the alternative. What if Pedro had gotten out of that jam and held on for the win after Grady's visit to the mound? Grady would have been praised everywhere, including on this board, for showing confidence in his ace.
Funny how things go.
Personallly, I would have thought it was stupid move, even if Perdo had managed to get out of that jam.
The bullpen was doing a tremendous job, in the '03 playoffs.
Embree and Timlin were flat-out shutting teams down.
They should've been used again, in that situation, no questions asked.