Free Agents and RS moves

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    Free Agents and RS moves

    For these throwing eggs at the RS moves. There was only 2 A Type players on the market. All others were B type some are FT players that are solid but not game breakers or stoppers. Some are platoon type players

    no matter who they sign if it is not Grenkie or Hamilton it is a temporary signing.

    the contracts are also based upon the current market.

    If BJ got 15 mil per year then similar B players will around the same number. If Ross is signed he will get 13 to 15 mil

    Platoon types get Gomes type contracts 5 to 8 mil.

     

     
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

     
  3. You have chosen to ignore posts from JimfromFlorida. Show JimfromFlorida's posts

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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

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    If they do nothing who would play the open positions? Don't say the guys that were there because that got us 69 wins.

    what you call wasting is in my opinion getting the best available and not trading your best prospects.

     
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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

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    If they do nothing who would play the open positions? Don't say the guys that were there because that got us 69 wins.

    what you call wasting is in my opinion getting the best available and not trading your best prospects.

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     Nice to see someone here understands the approach the Sox are taking to bring the team back to being a contender.

    Guys like ghost would prefer Nava and stiffs like him continue to get playing time.

     
  5. You have chosen to ignore posts from southpaw777. Show southpaw777's posts

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    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:
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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

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    If they do nothing who would play the open positions? Don't say the guys that were there because that got us 69 wins.

    what you call wasting is in my opinion getting the best available and not trading your best prospects.

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     Nice to see someone here understands the approach the Sox are taking to bring the team back to being a contender.

    Guys like ghost would prefer Nava and stiffs like him continue to get playing time.

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    Yeah, then he'd complain and cry more than he is now that they didnt sign anybody when they win another 69 games trotting career AAA guys out there next year.

     
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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

     
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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

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    If they do nothing who would play the open positions? Don't say the guys that were there because that got us 69 wins.

    what you call wasting is in my opinion getting the best available and not trading your best prospects.

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    they could easily have signed hamilton and had him in the lineup multiple times..... GHOSTIE ON FIRST!

     
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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    For these throwing eggs at the RS moves. There was only 2 A Type players on the market. All others were B type some are FT players that are solid but not game breakers or stoppers. Some are platoon type players

    no matter who they sign if it is not Grenkie or Hamilton it is a temporary signing.

    the contracts are also based upon the current market.

    If BJ got 15 mil per year then similar B players will around the same number. If Ross is signed he will get 13 to 15 mil

    Platoon types get Gomes type contracts 5 to 8 mil.

     

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    The Red Sox are setting the market, hardly signing based on the current market.

     
  9. You have chosen to ignore posts from GoUconn13. Show GoUconn13's posts

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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

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    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

     
  10. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hingham Hammer. Show Hingham Hammer's posts

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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

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    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

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      You're wasting your time. Alibiike will never grasp the game of baseball.

     
  11. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hingham Hammer. Show Hingham Hammer's posts

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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

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    If they do nothing who would play the open positions? Don't say the guys that were there because that got us 69 wins.

    what you call wasting is in my opinion getting the best available and not trading your best prospects.

    [/QUOTE]

     Nice to see someone here understands the approach the Sox are taking to bring the team back to being a contender.

    Guys like ghost would prefer Nava and stiffs like him continue to get playing time.

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    Yeah, then he'd complain and cry more than he is now that they didnt sign anybody when they win another 69 games trotting career AAA guys out there next year.

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     Crying and Whinning are Ghost's strong points.

     The Sox clearly needed to upgrade their everyday lineup without giving up their best prospects.

     To date they have done that without placing a heavy burden on their payroll.

     Plently of money left  for additional upgrades or re-signs when they surface.

     
  12. You have chosen to ignore posts from Alibiike. Show Alibiike's posts

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    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:
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    In response to GoUconn13's comment:
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

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    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

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      You're wasting your time. Alibiike will never grasp the game of baseball.

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    I've forgotten more about baseball than you will ever know about it.

     
  13. You have chosen to ignore posts from Alibiike. Show Alibiike's posts

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    In response to GoUconn13's comment:
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

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    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

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    Get a clue. Before last year, Berkman has averaged 142 games per season in his first full 12 years.

    Do your homework before you make unsubstantiated comments like that. And learn to write in English!

     
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:
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    In response to GoUconn13's comment:
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

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    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

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      You're wasting your time. Alibiike will never grasp the game of baseball.

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    I've forgotten more about baseball than you will ever know about it.

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    Among the things you have forgotten: Lance Berkmans injury track record and age and contract demands.

     
  15. You have chosen to ignore posts from Hingham Hammer. Show Hingham Hammer's posts

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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    In response to Hingham Hammer's comment:
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    In response to GoUconn13's comment:
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

    [/QUOTE]

    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

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      You're wasting your time. Alibiike will never grasp the game of baseball.

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    I've forgotten more about baseball than you will ever know about it.

    [/QUOTE]  "forgotten"

                         That's a good word to describe your current state of mind.

                        Yesterday you told us the Sox have the second highest payroll in baseball.

                        You also told us Ben hired Bobby V.

                        Actually you lost me last year when you were demanding the Sox bring Wakefield back for another season.

                         I stand by what I said."You are clueless when it comes to baseball."

                         Everyday with your posts you prove it.

     
  16. You have chosen to ignore posts from GoUconn13. Show GoUconn13's posts

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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    In response to GoUconn13's comment:
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    In response to Alibiike's comment:
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    Lance Berkman would have been a much better signing to play 1B, and for about half the cost.

    [/QUOTE]

    Then if Boston is going to that way, they will lead in MLB for the second consective year for the most players on DL.

    [/QUOTE]


    Get a clue. Before last year, Berkman has averaged 142 games per season in his first full 12 years.

    Do your homework before you make unsubstantiated comments like that. And learn to write in English!

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    You need to do your homework too!!  His first two seasons, he only played 34 games and 114 games before playing ten straight seasons by playing over 136 games.  So therefore, you cant just say he average playing 142 games for 12 season.   Anyway, two of his last three seasons, he have been on DL at least three times.  Just like Jacob Ellsbury.  

    I could take him if he accept a bench role at the same time he accept reasonable cheap discount contract.  But like Ben C. said, he rather to have a guy that can play both corner.

    Why I must have a good english writing if I am a deaf man?  Do you know that deaf people write worser english grammar than a normal person.

    Quit bashing on people who cant write.  As long they can have the baseball knowledge!!

     

     

     

     
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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    For these throwing eggs at the RS moves. There was only 2 A Type players on the market. All others were B type some are FT players that are solid but not game breakers or stoppers. Some are platoon type players

    no matter who they sign if it is not Grenkie or Hamilton it is a temporary signing.

    the contracts are also based upon the current market.

    If BJ got 15 mil per year then similar B players will around the same number. If Ross is signed he will get 13 to 15 mil

    Platoon types get Gomes type contracts 5 to 8 mil.

     

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    Jim - Ross will never get anywhere near $13-15M. He will get no more than a 3 year deal at $9M per, at best. The Red Sox overpaid. Every GM at the meeting knows it.

    One American League GM said Victorino “should have been in the $7 million-$11 million range. What they paid him is ridiculous.”

     

     

     
  18. You have chosen to ignore posts from ADG. Show ADG's posts

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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

    [/QUOTE]

    If they do nothing who would play the open positions? Don't say the guys that were there because that got us 69 wins.

    what you call wasting is in my opinion getting the best available and not trading your best prospects.

    [/QUOTE]

    And throwing extra money at players that are not worth it.

     
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    DAD & BILL-806 are OK with the moves so far........  More moves are coming with Salty,Jacoby and others going !!!    Ben has a plan and will execute it in the days ahead !!

     
  20. You have chosen to ignore posts from ADG. Show ADG's posts

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    DAD & BILL-806 are OK with the moves so far........  More moves are coming with Salty,Jacoby and others going !!!    Ben has a plan and will execute it in the days ahead !!

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    His plan is to overpay for players so Lucchino and gang can show the fans they are spending the money to justify the $100+ box seats and continue the consecutive bogus sellout streak.

     
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    In response to ADG's comment:
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    In response to Bill-806's comment:
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    DAD & BILL-806 are OK with the moves so far........  More moves are coming with Salty,Jacoby and others going !!!    Ben has a plan and will execute it in the days ahead !!

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    His plan is to overpay for players so Lucchino and gang can show the fans they are spending the money to justify the $100+ box seats and continue the consecutive bogus sellout streak.

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    You must be a lonely, bitter man.

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from southpaw777. Show southpaw777's posts

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    In response to Schumpeters-Ghost's comment:
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    Doing nothing is better than wasting resources on stiffs.

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    Your shtick is old. Theres no way somebody could be this miserable and dimwitted without it being an act...

     
  23. You have chosen to ignore posts from southpaw777. Show southpaw777's posts

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    In response to ADG's comment:
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    In response to JimfromFlorida's comment:
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    For these throwing eggs at the RS moves. There was only 2 A Type players on the market. All others were B type some are FT players that are solid but not game breakers or stoppers. Some are platoon type players

    no matter who they sign if it is not Grenkie or Hamilton it is a temporary signing.

    the contracts are also based upon the current market.

    If BJ got 15 mil per year then similar B players will around the same number. If Ross is signed he will get 13 to 15 mil

    Platoon types get Gomes type contracts 5 to 8 mil.

     

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    Jim - Ross will never get anywhere near $13-15M. He will get no more than a 3 year deal at $9M per, at best. The Red Sox overpaid. Every GM at the meeting knows it.

    One American League GM said Victorino “should have been in the $7 million-$11 million range. What they paid him is ridiculous.”

     

     

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    He was offered 11M per for 4 years. the Sox overpaid by 2M per to get only 3 years. Thats how it works.

     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from JimfromFlorida. Show JimfromFlorida's posts

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    Funny how the RS overpaid for two guys who have had many productive careers. As well as good guys. 

    Yet the Braves are praised for the 15 mil for BJ Upton who has had two very good runs in his career both leading to and in the playoffs (2008 and 2012). And has had issues in the clubhouse. Remember Longoria calling him out for not hustling and fans many times did not like his "attitude" here in Tampa. 

    Other than that he is just like Carlos Pena a 220 hitter with 20 HRs (maybe) a lot of strike outs and great Defense The exact reasons why the Rays never can get over the hump. 

     
  25. You have chosen to ignore posts from southpaw777. Show southpaw777's posts

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    Funny how the RS overpaid for two guys who have had many productive careers. As well as good guys. 

    Yet the Braves are praised for the 15 mil for BJ Upton who has had two very good runs in his career both leading to and in the playoffs (2008 and 2012). And has had issues in the clubhouse. Remember Longoria calling him out for not hustling and fans many times did not like his "attitude" here in Tampa. 

    Other than that he is just like Carlos Pena a 220 hitter with 20 HRs (maybe) a lot of strike outs and great Defense The exact reasons why the Rays never can get over the hump. 

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    actually his defense only appears to be that good because of his athleticsim. He makes bad reads on the ball but because hes fast and atheletic, he can make up for it. He makes a catch look harder than it actually had to bebecause he can cover a lot of ground quickly...

    But I do agree with your point. Why bash the Sox for overpaying a little for 2 quality guys who have had good careers so far and compliment the braves for Upton.

     
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