Game Thread 23: Astros at Red Sox

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    Game Thread 23: Astros at Red Sox

    RED SOX (15-7)
    Ellsbury CF
    Gomes LF
    Pedroia 2B
    Ortiz DH
    Napoli 1B
    Nava RF
    Middlebrooks 3B
    Ross C
    Ciriaco SS
    Pitching: RHP Ryan Dempster (0-2, 3.38).

    ASTROS (7-15)
    TBA
    Pitching: LHP Erik Bedard (0-1, 6.17).

    Game time:7:10 p.m.

    TV/radio: NESN / WEEI.

     
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    You gotta hand it to Erik Bedard.  He keeps hanging around, somehow.

     
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    In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:

    You gotta hand it to Erik Bedard.  He keeps hanging around, somehow.


    looks like a good line up space! Here's to sending positive vibes to Ryan in hopes that he can get us into atleast the 6th or 7th with a lead. the sticks are gettin hot bro...........

    GO SOX

     
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    Gomes batting 2nd is interesting. 

     
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    Houston Astros (7-15)

     

    1. Robbie Grossman, CF
    2. Jose Altuve, 2B
    3. Jason Castro, C
    4. Brandon Laird, 1B
    5. Carlos Pena, DH
    6. Chris Carter, LF
    7. Fernando Martinez, RF
    8. Matt Dominguez, 3B
    9. Marwin Gonzalez, SS
     
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    Considering Gomes' high walk rate, maybe not as interesting at first glance. 

     
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    Considering Gomes' high walk rate, maybe not as interesting at first glance. 



    He also murdalizes lefties.  

     
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    Considering Gomes' high walk rate, maybe not as interesting at first glance. 

     



    He also murdalizes lefties.  

     



    Sox definitely have some HR hitters in this lineup & the weather is gradually warming-up. Not that I'm complaining on how they score, it's just I know what they're capable of. 

     
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    Providence Journal: 

     

     Sox' Dempster challenging batters on first pitch AP photo/Michael Dwyer Ryan Dempster is throwing a first-pitch strike 67 percent of the time in 2013 — well ahead of both the league average and his career mark, each at 59 percent.  

    By TIM BRITTON

    Journal Sports Writer

    tbritton@providencejournal.com On Twitter: @timbritton

    Published: 25 April 2013 09:33 PM

     

    BOSTON — Ryan Dempster has allowed 16 hits all season. Eight of them have come on the first pitch.

    And you know what? Dempster doesn’t care.

    “I’m trying to challenge guys, whether it’s with the fastball or the slider and the split,” he said. “If a guy gets you with nobody on base, that’s when you want him to get you. I don’t want to give up homers. Nobody does. But at the same time, solo home runs for the most part aren’t going to beat you.”

    Pitching coach Juan Nieves doesn’t care, either.

    “I don’t care. Especially young kids, they see a fastball and they ambush it. It happens,” Nieves said. “But, boy, it’s nice when they roll those over or hit a weak fly to the outfield, first pitch. That definitely makes our day.”

    Four of the seven extra-base hits [and three of the four home runs] that Dempster has yielded have come on the first pitch. Still, the Red Sox don’t care.

    “I don’t mind them at all,” said catcher David Ross. “The chances of a first-pitch home run are so rare. He does a good job of keeping his pitch count down. He’s going to come right at you. He’s had three guys ready for him.

    “Part of it is just him being, ‘Hey, if you’re not locked in, you can give me a first-pitch out here,’ which is a huge swing… That translates into going deeper into the game.”

    It’s worth noting that two of those three first-pitch homers were swatted by Brett Gardner and Alcides Escobar — a pair of hitters known much more for their speed than their power. That plays into the approach to each batter, as can be seen from the catchers’ respective descriptions of the at-bats.

    Here’s Saltalamacchia on Escobar: “He’s a guy you know is active, but he’s not a big power guy. You want to get ahead of him, and you take your chances throwing it over the plate. He just happened to get us that time. Next time, we know that and now we’re going to pitch a little differently.”

    That wasn’t all that different from how Ross described the approach to Gardner back in the first week of the season.

    “We threw him a bunch of heaters his first at-bat. That was his second at-bat,” explained Ross. “So I’m sure he’s like, ‘I’m going to get the head out’ and look for his pitch. He did. When you’re locating the heater as Ryan would like to, that’s probably a ground ball, which is nice for us.”

    Dempster wanted to be clear that he’s not trying to give up hits there.

    “Everybody always goes, ‘He hit a fastball, you should have thrown a breaking ball.’ No, you should have thrown a fastball in a better location,” he said. “The bottom line is, whether it’s early in the count or late in the count, it’s about making a quality pitch there.”

    Nevertheless, Dempster is willing to live with the occasional extra-base hit — or even home run — if it means he’s getting ahead in the count consistently. The right-hander is throwing a first-pitch strike 67 percent of the time in 2013 — well ahead of both the league average and his career mark, each at 59 percent.

    “I have a few more walks than I want, but at the same time, I feel like I’m either walking that guy or ahead of everybody,” Dempster said. “The hitters I’m not walking, I’m getting ahead, and that ultimately leads to those strikeouts.”

    Further, once that reputation for first-pitch strikes makes its way around the American League, Dempster will be able to exploit it.

    “You get in a big situation where you think a younger guys is going to be aggressive, you can drop that first-pitch slider when they’re looking heater, and then they’re out in front and it’s a ground ball first pitch,” said Ross. “Usually it works out during the course of a year when you’re throwing a lot of strikes like he does.”

     
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    I think Erik Bedard should try and work a little slower ...

     
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    i just heard that the entire payroll for the astro's entire active roster is  only 21 million. here is hoping that our 15 million dollar dh gets another homer



    yikes

     
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    I think Erik Bedard should try and work a little slower ...



    Yea and A-Rod gets $27Mil for sitting on the bench..Go Stankees!

     
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    i just heard that the entire payroll for the astro's entire active roster is  only 21 million. here is hoping that our 15 million dollar dh gets another homer

    so...you want a team that is horrible and wont spend money to compete?

    Interesting.

     
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    In response to jackbu's comment:

    i just heard that the entire payroll for the astro's entire active roster is  only 21 million. here is hoping that our 15 million dollar dh gets another homer



    And the Angels' 3-4 hitters are making 50 million between them.

     
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    It's good to see the Sox giving Dempster run support.

     
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    i just heard that the entire payroll for the astro's entire active roster is  only 21 million. here is hoping that our 15 million dollar dh gets another homer



    Is that $1 million for every win they get? 

     
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    Ortiz goes LONG Two days in row. Why run the bases if you can just lightly jog around them?

     
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    i just heard that the entire payroll for the astro's entire active roster is  only 21 million. here is hoping that our 15 million dollar dh gets another homer




    Wow.  Those guys must LOVE being in the american league now ;0)

     
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    Ross havin a heck of a night.

     
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    Ross havin a heck of a night.



    good to see...not so good to see J Gomes though... he is a strike out machine...

     
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    Dempster's Line:

    IP 6.0

     H 4

     R  

    ER  2

    BB  3

    SO  10

    HR  0

    ERA  3.30

     
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    I love getting a win, but wow, is this an excruciating game to watch. Already over  3 1/2 hours in the bottom  of the eighth.

     
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