Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:30 PM EDT
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Its just everynight and nothing to look forward too in the way of starting pitching. No offense people but nobody is beating Philladelphia with that starting pitching. Theo goofed and did not pick up pitching at the trade deadline. In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK :
Posted by AL34
Agree about the Phillies starting pitching. They have the best starting rotation in MLB and I would be surprised if they don't win the World Series this year. I don't see any other team winning many games against them in the playoffs this year. Although, anything can happen in the playoffs.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:30 PM EDT
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If Aceves starts, somebody has to go to long relief which will become a weakness once the Sox take him out of that role.
Posted by traven
LETS WORRY ABOUT THAT WHEN WE GET THERE! I MEANTIME, START ACEVES!
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:30 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : HA HA.. LACK SEEMS TO PITCH EVERY NITE EXCEPT WHEN BECKS GOES! BECKETT AND PRAY FOR RAIN!
Posted by COMMUNIST-CONTRARIAN
Lester's pretty good....
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:31 PM EDT
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We have Beckett and Lester , but in the playoffs , all of the teams have the the equivalent or even better. After that is where we come up short.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:32 PM EDT
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ump suck again tonight.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:32 PM EDT
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I agree JBAY, its just a little disheartening everytime I look for our starters to get into the 7th inning.
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : i'd give bedard a pass tonight AL. he's got good stuff and just off the DL. he pitched two shut out innings and had to threw an extra 20 pitches, after reddicks error.
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Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:33 PM EDT
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.......nobody saw the giants beatin em last year (phillies).
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:33 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : Agree about the Phillies starting pitching. They have the best starting rotation in MLB and I would be surprised if they don't win the World Series this year. I don't see any other team winning many games against them in the playoffs this year. Although, anything can happen in the playoffs.
Posted by susan250
Not many picked the Giants to win it last year either all they did was beat both the Phil's with Haladay and the Rangers with Lee...the Phil's are formidable, but they're not invincable...as the old saying goes that is why we play the games...
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:33 PM EDT
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The only solution that I can think of is put Aceves in the starting rotation and put Bucholtz in the bullpene when he gets back, I do not know what to do with Lackey, thats a mystery to me. I think with his wife being sick in the offseason he was not doing work or conditioning on his arm. It shows. He clearly did not do something in the offseason and it has carried over into the whole season.
Posted by AL34
So the reports of how in shape he was at ST were false? Maybe the guy is just done. The ALE is not a good place for a mediocre pitcher to spend his last days.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:33 PM EDT
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If Aceves starts, somebody has to go to long relief which will become a weakness once the Sox take him out of that role.
Posted by traven
I still say , starting pitching is more important. Better to have a weakness in long relief than in your starter.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:34 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : This is why I would have like to have seen Drew come back. I've seen Reddick make too many plays like this. Sometimes he gets away, but he's very sloppy going after balls at times. He catches the ball, Bedard's out of the inning with a decent pitch count still in tact. One thing I've noticed during this streak is that when something like this happens, our pitchers -- especially Lackey, but Miller and Wake too -- can't regroup and bail out the fielders. One mistake by the fielders and instead of getting the next guy to get out of trouble, the floodgates open. I've never seen anything like it.
Posted by royf19
I was thinking yesterday about many times this year I've seen a Red Sox outfielder drop a ball when trying to pick it up to make a throw, drop a fly ball, drop or kick a ground ball when fielding it, and etc. And I'm talking about ALL of them, not just Reddick. Of all, I think Ellsbury has been the best at simply picking up the ball off the ground when it rolls to him!
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:34 PM EDT
thank god for the yankees
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:35 PM EDT
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We have Beckett and Lester , but in the playoffs , all of the teams have the the equivalent or even better. After that is where we come up short.
Posted by dgalehouse
If beckett and lester win every start in the post season we win the world series...
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:35 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : Not many picked the Giants to win it last year either all they did was beat both the Phil's with Haladay and the Rangers with Lee...the Phil's are formidable, but they're not invincable...as the old saying goes that is why we play the games...
Posted by Beantowne
but everyone picked the sox this year.......bad omen
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:36 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : If beckett and lester win every start in the post season we win the world series...
Posted by Beantowne
but they don't win everygame in the regular season, how are they going to win every game in the post season
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:37 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : If beckett and lester win every start in the post season we win the world series...
Posted by Beantowne
Yeah , but what are the chances of that ?
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:37 PM EDT
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way to go atch!
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:37 PM EDT
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thank god for the yankees
Posted by can-you-dig-it
I was leaning toward thanking the other side for them--it's all I can muster when forced to root for them.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:38 PM EDT
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time for Atchison to put up a couple of zero's...
Posted by Beantowne
THERE YOU GO HE PUT ONE ZERO.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:39 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : I was thinking yesterday about many times this year I've seen a Red Sox outfielder drop a ball when trying to pick it up to make a throw, drop a fly ball, drop or kick a ground ball when fielding it, and etc. And I'm talking about ALL of them, not just Reddick. Of all, I think Ellsbury has been the best and simply picking up the ball off the ground when it rolls to him!
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Ellsbury has committed two errors.............. in his entire career!!!!
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:39 PM EDT
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I agree JBAY, its just a little disheartening everytime I look for our starters to get into the 7th inning. In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK :
Posted by AL34
he wouldn't have gotten close to the 7th tonight AL, he was on an 80-85 pitch count.
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:39 PM EDT
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atch making a pitch for the post-season roster (if we go)
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:41 PM EDT
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Bedard, 2.2 innings, 5 hits 2 BB's, 5 runs?
Posted by Goofywocky
HOW MAny earned
Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:41 PM EDT
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Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK
posted at 9/20/2011 8:44 PM EDT
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In Response to Re: GAME THREAD: BEDARD VS VANDENHURK : but they don't win everygame in the regular season, how are they going to win every game in the post season
Posted by can-you-dig-it
That's not the point...merely that if both of them pitch big, in big games like Lincecum and Cain did for the Giants last year it's doable...
if we play all 19 games and they don't win all of their starts but take 2 0f 3 or 3 of 4 then whether it's Lackey or Bedard one of them will get 5 starts the other 3 and we'll need at least 1 win per series combined...
For the record I didn't say they would nor was Implying they could...merely that if the did we'd win it all! stranger things have happened
