Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

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    Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

    By Gordon Edes
    ESPNBoston.com

    BALTIMORE -- A changing of the guard may come as soon as Friday night in Fenway Park, when the Boston Red Sox come home and David Ortiz's three-game suspension comes to an end.

    Even 35-year-old J.D. Drew, who after 4 ½ seasons as the team's regular right fielder is on the verge of losing his job to 24-year-old Josh Reddick, acknowledges the possibility.

    "I understand the ins and outs of baseball and what's got to happen when you've got a guy going well," Drew said after Tuesday night's 6-2 loss to the Baltimore Orioles. The hot-hitting Reddick, playing left field, had his third three-hit game in barely a month since he was summoned from Triple-A Pawtucket, while Drew singled and grounded out twice.


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    AP Photo/Nick WassJ.D. Drew has always been a solid outfielder, but his production at the plate has dropped off dramatically.

    "I want to get things rolling," Drew said, "but this team has to win ballgames. I want to see another postseason. Tito's got a decision to make. For me, it's a matter of getting to where I'm swinging the bat well, in whatever role. They'll figure it out."

    Sox manager Terry Francona has expressed fealty to veteran players countless times and enthusiastically recounts how he has been rewarded for that loyalty, doing so again Tuesday on his weekly appearance on WEEI, mentioning Mark Bellhorn and Ortiz.

    But Drew's situation recalls more the way Francona handled the shortstop position this spring, when he insisted for weeks that Marco Scutaro was his everyday shortstop until Jed Lowrie's scintillating start gave him no choice but to make a change.

    Reddick is batting .367 in 28 games, with an on-base percentage of .418 and a slugging percentage of .671.

    Drew is batting .223, with an on-base percentage of .309 and a shockingly low slugging percentage of .321, a product of just six doubles, a triple and four home runs in 77 games. He has driven in just 22 runs.

    They call it "blind" loyalty for a reason. While the Red Sox at least entertain the prospect of making a blockbuster deal for another right fielder in Carlos Beltran of the Mets, an unlikely proposition according to one well-placed club source, it appears the Sox have reached a point of no return with Drew.

    What would Drew do if he were manager?

    "I don't know anything about that," he said. "That's not my decision. My thing is to get my swing where I want it and try to get it right. It just isn't falling into place the way I want it to.

    "But that's why you keep pushing, you know? I'll figure it out."

    Drew has always been a better player than his critics have acknowledged, especially in Boston, where his performance has always been filtered through the prism of a five-year, $70 million contract that has not extracted enough sweat from his brow, according to those maddened by his bloodless approach to the game.

    As recently as 2009, when he posted numbers that ranked him in the highest echelon of American League outfielders -- a .392 on-base percentage (second), a .522 slugging percentage (fourth) and a .914 OPS (third) -- Drew was worth five more wins to the team than a journeyman in his position would have been, according to the metric known as WAR (wins above replacement). And even if he doesn't dive for balls -- his feet-first slides are as close as he comes to doing so -- he has always been an above-average defender in right field.

    But his production has gone into decline since then and has bottomed out this season. For $14 million in 2011, the Red Sox are employing a player who so far this season has a 0.1 WAR, meaning he has been worth a 10th of one victory more than an ordinary replacement.

    Francona time and again has noted how Drew has a knack for getting on a hot streak and can carry a team, the way he did in 2008 when Ortiz missed 45 games with a wrist injury. But that has not happened this season. The last time Drew's average was as high as .240 was on May 29. With just seven hits in 41 at-bats in July, a .173 clip, he seems as lost now as at any other time this season.

    "This is not something I'm real excited about, the way I'm playing, by any means," he said quietly. "It's frustrating. It's the stuff you lose sleep over, you know?

    "You just continue to do the work I feel like I need to do. I've taken some decent swings here lately. I've made a lot of hard outs, but they're still outs. I've got to get a nice rhythm and I haven't quite gotten that rhythm."

    The cumulative evidence, however, points to a player in free fall. He is chasing pitches out of the strike zone at the highest rate of his career, 25.7 percent, according to FanGraphs. The percentage of ground balls he has hit is a career-high 49 percent; so is the percentage of infield popups, 15 percent. And his isolated power, which is calculated by subtracting batting average from slugging percentage to offer a picture of a player's extra-base percentage, is just .087, more than 100 percentage points below his career average of .212.

    But Drew insists he does not feel like his physical skills are betraying him.

    "No, this is one of those years," he said. "I never have had to deal with this. There are times in a season you slump and deal with different things, but this has been a continual. I haven't gotten into that nice rhythm.

    "I know the swing's still there. It's just a matter of getting it rolling, and I haven't been able to get it rolling."

    Meanwhile, he says, there is no denying the impact Reddick has made.

    "Absolutely," Drew said. "[Reddick is] swinging the bat great. It's good to see. He struggled early coming up here, but he looks like he went back and fine-tuned some things. He's done some good work staying behind the ball well. He's been a nice addition. He's definitely swinging the bat great."

    Even if the Sox decide not to make a play for Beltran, it only makes sense they would look for a right-handed bat to share time in right, something Mike Cameron was supposed to do but failed to produce before being traded to the Marlins.

    Drew, meanwhile, has mentioned this might be his last season. Has he given that further thought?

    "No," he said, "this has been such a frustrating run for me that's all I'm thinking about. Trying to turn things around."

    The sand in the hourglass may have run out. Ortiz returns to DH duties Friday night. Jacoby Ellsbury will be in center, Carl Crawford in left. The right fielder? This could be your life, Josh Reddick.

     
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    Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

    Yep, it is finally going to end. It's time. He knows it.
     
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    Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

    My Champange is on ice and ready to pop on a moment's notice!!!!
     
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    Drew has consistently been reaching for balls high and away, even early in counts. Then when the pitcher grooves a couple strikes he leaves the bat on his shoulder. He is confused at the plate...
     
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    Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

    the red sox may need a right handed hitter to platoon in LEFT FIELD more than they might need one to platoon with reddick in RF.

    although crawford was the DH last night he looked out of order for all 4 ABs and i am not sure that baltimore had a lefty on the mound.
     
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    $146 million to a Left Fielder who bats in the lower half of the order and who has to sit against left handed starting pitching........Did everyone see this coming but the Wonder Boy?

     
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    Reddick's earned the right to be in the lineup over Drew, given the way he's squaring up balls and making the opposing pitchers work, that's an easy one. The real question is not whether he should be starting over Drew, but rather is the RF job now his (Reddick's) to lose?

    If they do start him over Drew and it becomes apparent that the RF is his job to lose. They can send a strong message to him by trading or releasing Drew (DFA). A move that will take some stones by the front office (see Garciaparra in 04). Not sure they're quite ready to do that but the writing is on the wall.

    I'm not a Drew basher, I've appreciated all he's done for the Sox, but his inability to contribute with his stick has reached the point where he's a liabilty.  The conundrum since both he and Reddick are lefthanded and so too is Papi. I don't see a ton of at bats for him in a platoon role or even an occasional DH. So if they want him to "turn it around" he has to play, because he's not likely to turn it around sitting on the pine watching.  
     
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    i'm not a drew basher but i think Reddick has earned the start given Drew's dismal play...Drew can still contribute as a pinch runner/hitter and defensive specialist but it makes no sense to keep Josh on the bench - we want our best players out there
     
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    Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

        IT'S TIME !!!!!
     
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    It makes no sense to use a guy like Drew for a bench role.  Can he

    Hit?  Nope

    Hit for Power?  Nope

    Run?  Not really

    Field?  Kinda

    Throw?  Yeah OK

    So let's say he can still field. 

    How many positions can he play?  UNO

    OK just Uno.  Fine.  Is it SS?  Catcher?  Heck CF?  2B?  nope nope.  What then?  Oh just Right Field.......Hmmm......Not looking good but he can play 1 position well.  Next question:  Who else do we have on our team who can play RF?  Oh 2 guys?  Reddick and MacDonald.  OK so what?  What else can those guys do?

    Well, Reddick can hit and hit for power.  Cool.  Oh, he can play LF or RF.  OK cool.

    What about the other dude?  MacD?  Yeah.  Well, he doesn't hit that well but he does have his moments against LH's.  Wow, that's cool because sometimes we have too many LH bats in there.  Yeah I know.  Well, is that it?  No, the guy can run.  He would be your first guy off the bench for a PR appearance.  Oh Nice.  Well, can he play any where other than RF?  Well, sure - he can play all the OF spots.  WOW even CF?  Yup!  Well that's interesting b/c if we need a back up to Jake right now we got no one really.  Yeah I know that's why I mentioned that DMac can play there.

    And just in case we have 2 other guys who can also be used in an emergency in RF.  Really who?  Sutton and Navarro.  Who?  Well, they also play the IF but they can help out in RF in an emergency.  Wow - can Drew ever help out in the IF in an emergency?  LOL - I needed that chuckle thanks!

    Well, I am sold.  Drew is out.  Yeah well, good luck selling it to the dude who paid him 70 million to be "the odd man out".  Welcome to Boston!!!!!!
     
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    Yeah Drew has been a decent right fielder but there is no doubt he is not bringing it this year.  I am not a huge Reddick fan but he has to play over Drew for now with Drew getting some spot starts here and there.  I don't think you DFA Drew.  There is still a long season ahead.
     
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    The problem is that when you start Reddick, how is having JD on the bench useful? Pinchrunner...I guess for Papi ocassionally....Defensive Replacement....Don;t seee why......Pinchhitter...the only guy in our lineup you would pinch hit him for would be Marco Scutaro....and thats questionable.

     
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    Reddick's earned the right to be in the lineup over Drew, given the way he's squaring up balls and making the opposing pitchers work, that's an easy one. The real question is not whether he should be starting over Drew, but rather is the RF job now his (Reddick's) to lose? If they do start him over Drew and it becomes apparent that the RF is his job to lose. They can send a strong message to him by trading or releasing Drew (DFA). A move that will take some stones by the front office (see Garciaparra in 04). Not sure they're quite ready to do that but the writing is on the wall. I'm not a Drew basher, I've appreciated all he's done for the Sox, but his inability to contribute with his stick has reached the point where he's a liabilty.  The conundrum since both he and Reddick are lefthanded and so too is Papi. I don't see a ton of at bats for him in a platoon role or even an occasional DH. So if they want him to "turn it around" he has to play, because he's not likely to turn it around sitting on the pine watching.  
    Posted by Beantowne


    Trading him? Be real.
     
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    It makes no sense to use a guy like Drew for a bench role.  Can he Hit?  Nope Hit for Power?  Nope Run?  Not really Field?  Kinda Throw?  Yeah OK So let's say he can still field.  How many positions can he play?  UNO OK just Uno.  Fine.  Is it SS?  Catcher?  Heck CF?  2B?  nope nope.  What then?  Oh just Right Field.......Hmmm......Not looking good but he can play 1 position well.  Next question:  Who else do we have on our team who can play RF?  Oh 2 guys?  Reddick and MacDonald.  OK so what?  What else can those guys do? Well, Reddick can hit and hit for power.  Cool.  Oh, he can play LF or RF.  OK cool. What about the other dude?  MacD?  Yeah.  Well, he doesn't hit that well but he does have his moments against LH's.  Wow, that's cool because sometimes we have too many LH bats in there.  Yeah I know.  Well, is that it?  No, the guy can run.  He would be your first guy off the bench for a PR appearance.  Oh Nice.  Well, can he play any where other than RF?  Well, sure - he can play all the OF spots.  WOW even CF?  Yup!  Well that's interesting b/c if we need a back up to Jake right now we got no one really.  Yeah I know that's why I mentioned that DMac can play there. And just in case we have 2 other guys who can also be used in an emergency in RF.  Really who?  Sutton and Navarro.  Who?  Well, they also play the IF but they can help out in RF in an emergency.  Wow - can Drew ever help out in the IF in an emergency?  LOL - I needed that chuckle thanks! Well, I am sold.  Drew is out.  Yeah well, good luck selling it to the dude who paid him 70 million to be "the odd man out".  Welcome to Boston!!!!!!
    Posted by andrewmitch



    Drew has played 220 games in Centerfield in his career.  And he obviously could play left.

    With that said Reddick needs to start.   Drew just isn't doing it and Reddick is.





     



     
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    Drew's time in CF are about as relevant today as Shea Hillebrand's time behind the plate............
     
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    In Response to Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday. : Trading him? Be real.
    Posted by ADG


    It's not that hard to envision a team taking a flyer on the guy...Especially if he's DFA'd meaning the Sox would assume all of his remaining salary for the year. By trading him I wasn't inferring that he has value and would net us an impact player. Merely an option to open up the everyday job for Reddick. The Marlins took Cameron who was having an even worse year and is 3 years older than Drew.
     
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    $146 million to a Left Fielder who bats in the lower half of the order and who has to sit against left handed starting pitching........Did everyone see this coming but the Wonder Boy?

    I've never been called the "Wonder Boy", so I assume you mean the clown, softy. 

    I was strongly against the CC signing from even before day one. He's not a good #1 or 3 hitter for this team. I mentioned over and over that the guy is just a "glorified platoon player" due to his career and 2010 sub .700 OPS vs LHPs.  The only reason he wasn't platooned in TB was that they never had anyone better than .700 to platoon him with. We do.

     
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    $146 million to a Left Fielder who bats in the lower half of the order and who has to sit against left handed starting pitching........Did everyone see this coming but the Wonder Boy?
    Posted by andrewmitch


    not WONDER BOY; BLUNDER BOY.
     
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    In Response to Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.:
    In Response to Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday. : The Marlins took Cameron who was having an even worse year and is 3 years older than Drew.
    Posted by Beantowne


    Think they might be regretting that? Only 9 games, but he's hitting .150 with a .600 OPS.
     
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    Yup. His #'s vs LH's is alarming and is the reason why he can't bat in the 1-2-3 in the order which is where you'd expect 146 million to hit if not 4th or 5th which he can't do either......Reminds of Drew being brought over here to bat 8th and to sit against LH's......scary stuff......
     
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    i'm not a drew basher but i think Reddick has earned the start given Drew's dismal play...Drew can still contribute as a pinch runner/hitter and defensive specialist but it makes no sense to keep Josh on the bench - we want our best players out there
    Posted by georom4


    I AM a Drew basher, and I say as long as he is breathing, he will be the RS starting RFer against RHP.
    Theo has a well-known affection for this guy and he will finish out the season in a Sox uniform.
     
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    In Response to Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.:
    In Response to Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday. : I AM a Drew basher, and I say as long as he is breathing, he will be the RS starting RFer against RHP. Theo has a well-known affection for this guy and he will finish out the season in a Sox uniform.
    Posted by Alibiike


    Guess you missed today's lineup.  Reddick is in right field and the starting pitcher for the O's, Arrieta, is a right-hander.
     
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    Re: Gordon Edes: Drew could lose his job to Reddick on Friday.

    Crawford had two hits the day before ... give it a rest.   Besides Reddick, who hit?  Not even Gonzo. 
     
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