Re: Have you considered staying away from Fenway Park?
posted at 4/11/2012 8:33 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Have you considered staying away from Fenway Park?
In Response to Re: Have you considered staying away from Fenway Park? : In all honesty, I think the only way you can say the bold statement is if you want to interprety their actions negatively. Like I pointed out before, they're spending money on the payroll. I really don't believe they'd be spending any more or would have handled the offseason any different regardless of the celebration. And the Titanic reference has nothing to do with the ballpark. The 100-years -- OK fine. But the Titanic? Really don't think it makes a difference. The ownership group has consistently gone all out with various celebrations. What would the outcry be if they ignored the 100 years? As for Sweet Carolina, OK some like it some don't, and I don't like it when they're losing. To me, it's kind of corny and I thought it was stupid when it started. But why is it wrong for the ownership group to try to make it a fun experience for everyone -- blending new things like the song, with old traditions like the organ music. I grew up with John Kiley and the organ and that's all I need. But the younger generation are used to more bells and whistles. You said just your focus is always on the field. Well, mine is too. But there's nothing wrong with the ownership focusing on the entire product. It's not like Lucchino is planning these celebrations. That's Tom Werner's area. Luchhino handles the on-the-field product, so it's not like these activities take away from his duties. In other words, just because only "A" is important to us, it doesn't mean that when the teams also is doing "B" and "C" that it takes away from "A." In fact, the focus on the other areas helps generates revenue, which helps the on-the-field product. If the Sox don't make the playoffs, it won't have anything to do with "B" "C" etc. It will simply be that Cherrington and Larry made bad decision concerning signings. Like I said, I'm not going to look at a team with a $180 million-plus payroll and say they should have spent more. Smarter, yes, but nor more. As for the park, OK you don't like it. But many fans, many hardcore fans like it. Did you see the uproar that developed when Harrington tried to get a new ballpark going back in 2000. If Henry and Co. ever decide to go that route, it's not going to be easy getting a park built dealing with corrupt Boston politics and "Save Fenway" groups that will pop up and take things to court. You saw what it took for Kraft to get the new stadium built. I'm surprised the new Garden was able to get built. So I don't blame any ownership group for not wanting to deal with that headache. And let's say Henry and Co. said from the get-go they wanted to build a new park. Can you imagine the criticism they would have taken. Fans and media would have blasted them as outsiders who have no appreciation for Red Sox history. You have to at least admit this. Here, they're trying to show that appreciation for Red Sox history -- something they've tried to do in other areas -- and they're being criticized. They can't win.
Posted by royf19
Thanks for taking the time to comment on my post with a well articulated response. Your contrary point of view is noted.
I have nothing against Sox ownership, except that I believe their focus is not some much on the team this year. Yes, they have spent a lot of money on the players and have one of the highest payrolls, but was it wise money spent??
Maybe they have become gunshy now after making some ill-advised free agent acquisitions and are taking a step back. The only money really spent this offseason was resigning Ortiz, who is now a major piece of Sox history and I'm sure will be incorporated into the Fenway celebration...it would have been nice to have Papelbon there too with maybe a dance on the mound.
But the team looks like it could be in some trouble now and Sox ownership seems to be just counting the days to April 13 to start the celebration.
I guess what it comes down to for me is the fact that I really am not a big fan of the ballpark, and never have been...I am tainted because I have sat in many of the very bad seats in an effort to just experience the game live. I found it to be a more enjoyable experience watching the Sox play at their opponents home park...thankfully in Baltimore, it felt like home games with all the Sox fans in attendance.
Your points about acceptance of a new stadium is somewhat correct...and there were numerous complaints about the New Garden when it first opened, lacking history and all that stuff...well, guess what...it has it's own history now and nobody complains about the venue anymore.
Yes there would be a filibuster if the Sox decided to build a new park but over time people would accept it and end up enjoying the game experience a whole lot more. All this mumbo-jumbo about tradition and history means little if the current product is not competitive.
Sox ownership better be careful, because the park has been getting filled by many pinkhats recently because the team was successful, which is good for ticket sales...but they may be killing the golden goose...stand by.