Re: Help me out....who is LIKEABLE on this team?
posted at 4/12/2012 9:43 PM EDT
In Response to Re: Help me out....who is LIKEABLE on this team?
[QUOTE]What on EARTH is despicable about Carl Crawford? Is there a wife-beating arrest I don't know of? I get the drift of the OP, and some of the (knee-jerk) responses, and choose to look at it this way: where's the charisma? When players don't have a ton of exposure, sometimes you don't know how "likable" (or charismatic) they may be. Who'd have guessed Kevin Millar was so much fun when he was a journeyman OF? That said, I do find the current squad a tad dour compared to the days of the "Idiots," and think that much of that was by design (particularly think Epstein didn't care for those who, well, enjoyed a Derek Lowe lifestyle). As an example, I both dislike Manny Ramirez (hit his wife; steroid cheat; all 'round jerk) and recognize his charisma (undeniable obvious love of the game; the high-five of the fan between catch and throw; etc.). With Manny, I wound up disliking him more than I enjoyed the charisma. The 2012 Sox have some real ugly jerks on the DL (Lackey; Jenks), and a few guys who you can't help but root for (Lester, Ross, Pedroia, Aviles, MacDonald come to mind). The real differentiator for me is the dudes in-between: your Ellsburies, Becketts, Bards, Gonzalezes ... they just don't do it for me the way that, say, Mike Lowell or Pokey Reese did. Those guys weren't superstars but managed to connect with fans via the media, or simply by showing exuberance in their play. Current crop leaves me a bit cold. And let's not even go into Beckett and Youseless - I would actually pay handsomely to watch streamed video of the two of them stranded on a desert island together.
Posted by ABQDan[/QUOTE]
Well there it is. It's like someone took my thoughts, added a little reasoning, finished with some class, and baked at "sensible" for about 2 hours.
Very, very well stated. I guess my overall frustration limited my ability to express myself well. You nailed it though.
Also, above, someone noted it's only about half of the team, I agree whole-heartedly. It's disappointing that it's so few, especially considering some of those "likes" have played less than ten games for the team.
Beckett lost me not last season, but his handling of it in the offseason, and this season.
I've been withdrawing my fandom from Ortiz since his "it's been 2 f . . . ing games!" from a few years ago, culminating with his burst in on the interview, and his remarks at the end of last season talking about how Alfredo shoud be starting, he didn't know why he wasn't. Right or wrong, it was very innapropriate to say at all, but how he said it made it even worse. THEN to talk about how he might play for the Yankees, and he didn't like dealing with all this stuff. I just am disappointed in him, his ego has obviously grown to immense proportions.
Ellsbury, who I was very hard on early with the ribs, and other injury stuff prior to that, then the notebook speech...I've come around on him. He's kept his mouth shut and just played hard. I respect that. I've always enjoyed watching him play.
Aviles/Ross I don't have much of an opinion on yet. I just haven't seen enough of them, though I liked Ross in FL as a player.
Punto I liked in MIN, but again, not much to be said about his time here, and he's a backup, hard to get too excited about him.
Bard and Gonzalez are kind of the same to me. I like both as players, but they lack in the personality department.
Pedroia is Pedroia. Love his play, style of play, and effort. Don't love all the bravado, but that's just me. I did, however, get a kick out of he and Francona's back and forth's, those were classic. I'll miss them.
Youk. Ugh. I always knew he'd end up this way. Many people did. He played with TOO much of an edge. I still contend that the Manny scuffle was Youk's fault, he doesn't know when to chill out. I love the hard nosed play, but could do without the attitiude. Too many Sox players complain about too many dang calls. Just play.
I love Lester. Always have. Always will.
Nobody in the bullpen excites me. Aceves is fine, I respect where he's come from, and what he's done for the team. Can't say I know much else about him...oh, he came from the Yankees, bonus point for that.
Atchison does nothing for me. He's had kind of a cult following since last spring. Personally, I don't really get it.
I like Salty. Can't even really give a good reason beyond so many people DON'T like him, and I've always kind of pulled for him, since his days of splitting time in TEX. I really want to see him excel. There have been a LOT of doubters.
Lackey could go away and make me happy. I don't even care if he went 30-0 for another team, I'd be happy he wasn't here.
Jenks? What a waste of 12 million.
They just don't do it for me. Then add in management and ownership? Yuck. If CHerrington is going to be called the 'GM', at least let him make a decision or two. He didn't want Valentine. He DID want more pitching. But, to his credit (or is it?) he's kept his mouth shut, or said the pro-management thing.
When Wakefield walked off the mound in 2003 having given up a game losing, World Series appearance losing HR to that scrub Boone...I hurt with the team. I truly liked a LOT of those players.I liked Grady Little and his huckish goofiness. This team? I'm cynically laughing at their failures.