In Response to Re: Here's What's Next... : Agree with everything he says about trading Pedroia, especially with his all out play and all out swing.  But this off-season is the time to do it.  Ciriaco can take over at 2nd and Iglesias can try and beat out Aviles for SS in ST.  Meanwhile, the Sox should get a good middle of the rotation starter for Pedroia, perhaps with only a year left on his contract.  Matt Garza or someone of that ilk.  To me that would improve the team more than keeping Pedroia and seeing how Aviles, Iglesias and Ciriaco all fit.
Posted by parhunter55

OF------  Bryce Brentz  RF,  Bradley in CF, and Ross in LF. Middlebrooks, Ciriaco, Pedroia and Bogaerts at 1 B. Lavarnway C with Montero as RH DH(obtained in trade with Seattle for Ells), Ortiz LH DH Salty C, Aviles Super Sub,   Rotation: Buch, Lester, Dice, Doubie, Aceves, Lackey Pen: Bailey, Morales, Miller, Hill, Tazawa, Breslow, Michael Olmsted
Posted by MadMc44

In Response to Re: Here's What's Next... : 3 kids who have never played above Double A, including a kid who is still 19 and never played a professional game at the position you are suggesting, in the starting line-up next year?!?!?  On top of that, Lavarnaway doesn't look ready to handle full time catching duties at the Major League level.  That team would win 60 games.  Maybe.  The Sox aren't the 2012 Astros.  My guess is their 2013 roster will be better than a few teams that make the playoffs this year.  They have a solid core nucleus, a pretty deep farm system and the financial resources to put a competitive team on the field next year.  Let the winter play itself out...
Posted by jasko2248

In Response to Re: Here's What's Next... : Besides the two pitching prospects we got from LA (who some refer to as "farm system scraps"), who do we have in the minors that can pitch in the majors next year..? We are OK with position players, but very weak with pitching.
Posted by pumpsie-green

In Response to Re: Here's What's Next... : 3 kids who have never played above Double A, including a kid who is still 19 and never played a professional game at the position you are suggesting, in the starting line-up next year?!?!?  On top of that, Lavarnaway doesn't look ready to handle full time catching duties at the Major League level.  That team would win 60 games.  Maybe.  The Sox aren't the 2012 Astros.  My guess is their 2013 roster will be better than a few teams that make the playoffs this year.  They have a solid core nucleus, a pretty deep farm system and the financial resources to put a competitive team on the field next year.  Let the winter play itself out...
Posted by jasko2248

In Response to Re: Here's What's Next... : Besides the two pitching prospects we got from LA (who some refer to as "farm system scraps"), who do we have in the minors that can pitch in the majors next year..? We are OK with position players, but very weak with pitching.
Posted by pumpsie-green

Trading Jacoby this winter makes sense, but I suppose he could go waiver wire now. Maybe if we get the team to take Lackey...
Posted by moonslav59

Trading Pedroia, at this stage of his career, would be silly. And "beat out Aviles"? Aviles is a bum. Iglesias could have a .240 OBP and offer more than Aviles. The Red Sox need to get rid of Aviles and go with Pedroia, Ciriaco and Iglesias for the middle infield of 2013. For the first time in a long, long time, the Red Sox will actually have a strong fielding middle infield to make bad pitchers look like decent pitchers.
Posted by TrotterNixon

jasko, why don't you read pumpsie's post again.  He asked which MiL pitchers the Spx have "that can pitch in the majors next year?"  None of the guys you listed is projected to be helping the team next year.  Barnes may get a September call up for a look see, but that's about it for the crew you mention. Posted by parhunter55

In Response to Re: Here's What's Next... : If we want to make a push in 2013, we certainly need to get a starter from outside the system, just as we always have (Pedro, Schill, & Beckett). Our staff next year, as of right now, looks like this (MLB-ready): S1 Buchholtz S2 Lester S3 Doubront S4 Morales S5 Lackey S6 Tazawa/Mortensen/Stewart/de la Rosa/Webster/S. Wright CL Bailey RP Breslow RP Aceves RP Miller RP R Hill RP Atchison RP Bard/Melancon/Beato/Carpenter/Wilson There are 22 pitchers here, but really only a few that can be counted on to produce significantly next year. Depth is a nice thing, but 21 is a bit too much mediocrity and not enough quality. We have some good pitching prospects who won't be ready until 2014 at the earliest: 2 Barnes 22 (Webster is now rated #4 on soxprospects) 8 Owens 20 13 Workman 24 14 Britton 23 15 Ranaudo 22 16 Johnson 21 17 Pimental 22 19 A Wilson 25 21 P Light 21 22 Buttrey 19 24 Carpenter 26 31 Montas 19 32 Callahan 18 34 Ramires 22 35 Pena 21 36 Hernandez 23 Lots of names, but not many are very highly rated other than Barnes, de la Rosa, and Webster. I think it is time to trade depth for quality, as in some 2 or 3 for 1 deals. We have some blocked prospects now, such as cecchini at 3B (we could move him to 1B), and several SS prospects (we could move Bogaerts to 1B), and may choose to deal a catcher this winter as well. There's a lot of little deals we can do to get better. We seem to have a knack at judging lower impact players well (Ciriaco, Aviles, Salty, Aceves, Shoppach, Ross, Morales, Breslow...).  Maybe some GM really likes some of our low-mid pitching prospects, or will overpay for Lava or Salty or Aviles or Gomez or... We need to actively seek out GMs looking to rebuild and GMs looking to contend, as well as Gms looking to part with some higher salary, but quality players signed through 2014 and beyond. I look at the Gio Gonzalez deal of last year as an example of what is possible. Gio is just 26. December 23, 2011 : Traded by the  Oakland Athletics  with  Robert Gilliam  (minors) to the  Washington Nationals  for  A.J. Cole  (minors),  Tommy Milone ,  Derek Norris  and  Brad Peacock . I said at the time of the Reddick trade, that we should have added more and tried to get Gio. Who knows how close we were, or what they wanted from us for him.
Posted by moonslav59

Ellsbury, Salty, Aviles, Tazawa, Melancon & Lackey  for  Vogelsong ( 13 :$5M,  14 :$6.5M club option ($0.3M buyout)   ) Hector Sanchez (pre-arb) Sergio Romo (2 arbs)
Posted by moonslav59