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    That kid knows how to bunt. It could be like a Dave Roberts' steal. I always thought everyone could just bunt, but that's apparently not true. That may come in handy during the season. Good to know.

     
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    Good Post.

     
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    Bradley can bunt too, the foul pop notwithstanding.  So can Vic.

     
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    Bunting is more difficult than you think,


     

     
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    Bunting is more difficult than you think,


     


     


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    That was always the weakness of the posters that always screamed that Tito should be bunting every inning.  Half the time, all you do is get behind 0-1.

     
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    Bunting is more difficult than you think,


     


     


     


     


     


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    That was always the weakness of the posters that always screamed that Tito should be bunting every inning.  Half the time, all you do is get behind 0-1.


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    It's especially harder when the pitcher knows that a bunt's on!

     
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    Bunting is more difficult than you think,


     


     


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    Like every other aspect of hitting, bunting is a skill that requires practice. In certain circumstances it is a useful part of the offensive arsenal that a manager possesses. I think that every player on the team should be practicing that skill on a regular basis in case it needs to be utilized. EVERY player.


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    lack of bunting been a pet peeve of mine for some time.  agree that all players should be practicing this valuable skill.

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 

     
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    Red Sox designate Ryan Roberts for assignment

    Bring up Brock Holt from Pawtucket

     
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    Bring up Brock Holt from Pawtucket


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    you asked.....and they listened. 

     
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    Bring up Brock Holt from Pawtucket


     


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    you asked.....and they listened. 


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    thanks, I not that smart.  It should have said: bringing up Brock Holt

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 


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    Incorrect.


     


    That argument is limited to sacrifice bunts.   But not all bunts are sacrifices.  After all, bunting was about the only hitting skill Jerry Remy had in his long career...

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 


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    There are situations where the bunt is the correct play. Case in point: Herrera's bunt last night. Good call; correct call. Great execution. If the bunt is not practiced it will not be executed with the regularity it should be. Even Ortiz should learn how to bunt the ball for a base hit down the third baseline in some circumstances if the shift is on. All players should be able to have a reasonable chance of executing the bunt-and that takes practice.


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    Bunting is more difficult than you think,


     


     


     


     


     


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    Like every other aspect of hitting, bunting is a skill that requires practice. In certain circumstances it is a useful part of the offensive arsenal that a manager possesses. I think that every player on the team should be practicing that skill on a regular basis in case it needs to be utilized. EVERY player.


     


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    Disagree. Certain players should have bunting skills. But a guy like Ortiz, for example -- I NEVER want him to bunt. There are other guys who fit in this category.


     


     

     
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    I'd like to see Papi bunt down the 3B line a few times with the shift on. Keep 'em honest and take away the advantage the shift gives the defense.


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    I'd like to see Papi bunt down the 3B line a few times with the shift on. Keep 'em honest and take away the advantage the shift gives the defense.


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    The Red Sox don't want to put him in a position where he has to really bare down and leg one out down to first-base due to his size and ailment history... surely someone as baseball wise as you knows that?

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 


     


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    There are situations where the bunt is the correct play. Case in point: Herrera's bunt last night. Good call; correct call. Great execution. If the bunt is not practiced it will not be executed with the regularity it should be. Even Ortiz should learn how to bunt the ball for a base hit down the third baseline in some circumstances if the shift is on. All players should be able to have a reasonable chance of executing the bunt-and that takes practice.


     


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    Not really.  If you want to learn how to bunt, you need to practice it a lot.  Since most players don't bunt, you're basically taking time away from other activities, to use on a decidedly non-useful activity.


    Let's say, for the sake of debate, that once bunt hit a month qualifies someone as a threat.  In the AL last year, that's only 16 players.  Only 29 have more than 3 bunt hits.  For the overwhelming majority of players, practicing a bunt is a waste of time.


    If you're a very weak bat, or a very fast runner, then it should be part of your repertoire.  But for most guys, they are far better off practicing hitting, fielding, and baserunning.

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 


     


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    Incorrect.


     


     


     


    That argument is limited to sacrifice bunts.   But not all bunts are sacrifices.  After all, bunting was about the only hitting skill Jerry Remy had in his long career...


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    Remy would be batting clean-up in this 2014 line-up.

     
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    Good Post.


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    Thank you, Cwotb.

     
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    Bradley can bunt too, the foul pop notwithstanding.  So can Vic.


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    But, c'mon, Max, you have to admit that bunt was amazing.

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 


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    But someone who can bunt like that, can be valuable at a critical point in a game. Even the playoffs.

     
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    I'd like to see Papi bunt down the 3B line a few times with the shift on. Keep 'em honest and take away the advantage the shift gives the defense.


     


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    So true! Even when he did it by accident, it was awesome. Shook the pitcher up as well. I say do it every once in a while at least to get them thinking about whether or not they want to put the shift in place.

     
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    There is the argument that the bunt hurts a team more than it helps the team.  Regardless of what you think, the value added or subtracted overall is minimal at best.....bunting is not anywhere near the top of the list of this teams problems right now. 


     


     


     


     


     


     


     




    There are situations where the bunt is the correct play. Case in point: Herrera's bunt last night. Good call; correct call. Great execution. If the bunt is not practiced it will not be executed with the regularity it should be. Even Ortiz should learn how to bunt the ball for a base hit down the third baseline in some circumstances if the shift is on. All players should be able to have a reasonable chance of executing the bunt-and that takes practice.


     


     


     


     


     


     


     


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    Not really.  If you want to learn how to bunt, you need to practice it a lot.  Since most players don't bunt, you're basically taking time away from other activities, to use on a decidedly non-useful activity.


     


     


     


    Let's say, for the sake of debate, that once bunt hit a month qualifies someone as a threat.  In the AL last year, that's only 16 players.  Only 29 have more than 3 bunt hits.  For the overwhelming majority of players, practicing a bunt is a waste of time.


     


     


     


    If you're a very weak bat, or a very fast runner, then it should be part of your repertoire.  But for most guys, they are far better off practicing hitting, fielding, and baserunning.


     


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    I agree, it's not for everyone, but it is nice to have a player that can do such an excellent job at it. In the playoffs you can save him like a Dave Roberts.

     
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    Bunting is more difficult than you think,


     


     


     


     


     


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    That was always the weakness of the posters that always screamed that Tito should be bunting every inning.  Half the time, all you do is get behind 0-1.


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    Most of the time they're behind 0-1 anyway. Old, old, adage: The best pitch you will see the entire at bat will, most likely, be the first pitch"

     

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