Re: Hey…Knock It Off….Remain Loyal, Hopeful Fans
posted at 10/14/2011 1:56 PM EDT
In Response to Hey…Knock It Off….Remain Loyal, Hopeful Fans
[QUOTE]Red Sox Nation…..no team in baseball doesn’t have issues from time to time…..yours right now is in the spotlight but the spotlight “always” changes. The Red Sox have a tradition for fighting until their last breath to win….this year’s team just didn’t have the right players and certainly not the right lung power. Sure, it’s hard for anyone to observe their favorite players either diminish in skills to where they can’t perform up to expectations or even worse, get traded to another team, let alone another division rival ….let alone the dreaded Yankees. Today baseball is purely business and the days of owners like George Steinbrenner are over…… regardless of whether you disliked him or not….he was purely about winning and winning it for the fans…didn’t give a tinkers dam about profits of the team because he knew that in winning everything gets taken care of….I’m not here to sing George’s praises….just to point out that owners like him that do everything for the fans died with his passing. His two sons, Hank & Hal, are bean counters when it comes to payroll and would cut a players throat if they thought it would pay off….. not the same Yankees organization with George being gone and will never be again either. John Henry is worse…he doesn’t reinvest in the team the way he should have been doing for the past several years…another owner looking for bottom-line contributions. Francona is one of baseball’s best managers …so he hit a couple of speed bumps….so what….his personal life is his own business anyway. Epstein…well….I won’t say anything about him because I think he was John Henry’s pawn…..maybe it’s like that on every team but this year Brian Cashman did openly expressed disagreement with Yankees management on player signings….good for him for reaching out to the press to make his position known. Anyway, back to the Sox….. now is the opportunity to concentrate on what the team can achieve with getting the right acquisitions …..don’t fool yourself…the Sox team needs to be whacked up and reassembled and a lot of new faces are needed……and the Yankees are only a year away from being where the Sox are right now…new faces needed there but just not as many….another bat and some starting pitching is all the Yankees have to change….and the Yankees had as many players lost this year to injury as any team in baseball….shi_ happens. Take comfort in the fact that in 2004 the Sox did the unthinkable…never been done before….so how hard is it after that feat to imagine the team coming back next year as a juggernaut and winning it all…. just make the right moves in the off season and the Yankees & Sox will battle for the ALCS for years to come. By: Yankees Lover
Posted by YankeesLover[/QUOTE]
Good points at the beginning and at the end, but the middle left a lot to be desired.
Today baseball is purely business and the days of owners like George Steinbrenner are over……regardless of whether you disliked him or not….he was purely about winning and winning it for the fans…didn’t give a tinkers dam about profits of the team because he knew that in winning everything gets taken care of….I’m not here to sing George’s praises….just to point out that owners like him that do everything for the fans died with his passing. His two sons, Hank & Hal, are bean counters when it comes to payroll and would cut a players throat if they thought it would pay off…..not the same Yankees organization with George being gone and will never be again either.
Are you serious? Baseball has been purely a business since at least the start of free agency. Don't kid yourself. Yes, Steinbrenner was about winning, but if you think he didn't give damn about profits, then I want what you're smoking. Why did he knock down Yankees Stadium for a new stadium? Why did he create the YES Network. It was all to generate more revenue and more profits. Steinbrenner was no dumb businessman. Yes, he had a high payroll , but it was because he could afford it. I'll never doubt his commitment to winning, but Steinbrenner wasn't going to lose money. Because of all the revenue the Yankees generated -- because of the market and because Steinbrenner was smart enough to maximize those advantages -- he never had to make the choice between profits and winning. He could and did have them both.
John Henry is worse…he doesn’t reinvest in the team the way he should have been doing for the past several years…another owner looking for bottom-line contributions.
I don't suppose you mind backing up this ridiculous statement. It's because you can't. Henry has spent the last 10 years sprucing up Fenway and building up revenue streams just like Steinbrenner did. Henry certainly has put money back into the organization in terms of scouting and many other behind-the-scenes areas that are important to a baseball team. And he has consistently had one of the top three payrolls in baseball. So I don't know you can say he's just looking at the bottom line. Crawford might have been a dumb deal, but you don't write that kind of a contract if you're not trying to win. Of course he wants profit -- just like Steinbrenner.
In fact, Henry has followed Steinbrenner's examples, both good and bad. He took over a franchise whose previous owners let many areas languish, especially from a business standpoint but also in some baseball areas.
They came in with a professional attitude, merging strong business sense with taking advantage of their brand and markets to increase revenue. They built teams that won W.S. They put money back into baseball operations in terms scouting and training. Henry was blasted by making Fenway too comfortable for the players with the upgrades. Are you kidding me? Have you seen the Yankees' locker room in the new Yankee Stadium. It makes Fenway's locker rooms look like a third-world slum. As for the bad, they both spent stupidly on free agents.
Henry deserves criticism for the way he has handled the past two weeks, but convicted-felon Steinbrenner was hardly an angel. If it was Henry who was the source of the Francona news, how is that different from Steinbrenner and what he tried to do with Winfield's reputation, let alone how he treated his managers and GMs over the years.
Except for not like the spotlight like Steinbrenner did, Henry is might be more like Steinbrenner than I originally thought.