Hot Stove League Discussion Thread

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    Christopher Smith       

    Cherington on leadoff hitter. "We have a number of guys that get get on base. I'll have you guys ask John (Farrell)."

     
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    Pete Abraham       

    Cherington says Red Sox"not close" to anything significant.

     
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    Michael Silverman      

    Red Sox still looking to add a 3B or SS, not sure yet if he'll be established or more of a complementary type

     
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    Pete Abraham ‏@PeteAbe 32s

    Cherington says #RedSox seeking infielder who can play on the left side, perhaps a bench guy. He doesn't see a need for a backup CF

     

     
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    Michael Silverman @MikeSilvermanBB Cherington wouldn't rule out a significant move but not close to anything.  #RedSox
     
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    Red Sox general manager Ben Cherington said this afternoon that with the team "it could be that we've done most of our heavy-lifting'' and that the team has "shifted more of our attention towards the 'opportunistic' category of the offseason.'' An "opportunistic'' could mean anything, like perhaps trading away a starter and/or make a trade with the Dodgers for Matt Kemp, but Cherington said that the team is not close to making any kind of a significant deal and that he is comfortable entering the offseason with the team already assembled.

     
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    • Though the Red Sox have responded to the Yankees' spending spree with smaller deals for players such as Edward Mujica and Mike Napoli, Rosenthal writes that Boston holds a major advantage over the Yanks in scouting and player development, as the Ellsbury signing shows. While the Sox are unlikely to target Shin-Soo Choo, GM Ben Cherington may also have a surprise in the works, as Boston has considered trading for Matt Kemp and could also deal one of its starters.
     
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      By  Aaron Steen [December 7 at 10:21pm CST]

    The Rays will trade David Price, but his two remaining years of team control mean that GM Andrew Friedman can afford to wait for the right return, Marc Topkin writes for the Tampa Bay Times. They're expected to look to improve upon the return they got from the Royals forJames Shields, so a package could comprise an elite-level young player such as the Mariners' Taijuan Walker or the Rangers' Jurickson Profar, along with a major league-ready talent and one or two lower-level prospects

     
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    Pete Abraham ‏@PeteAbe 19h

    On conference call, Cherington reiterates that Uehara is the closer. But they like Mujica having that experience.

     
     
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    http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/red-sox/post/_/id/33710/who-could-be-moving-at-winter-meetings

     
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    http://bostonherald.com/sports/red_sox_mlb/clubhouse_insider/2013/12/as_winter_meetings_open_a_look_at_red_sox_needs_plus_a

     
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    no doubt a few teams will use this line of thinking.....

    Small moves are sometimes the best at Meetings Even those GMs who acquire superstars must also add complementary pieces BUENA VISTA, Fla. -- David Price's name is sure to come up, and so will Brett Gardner's. Matt Kemp could be a topic of conversation as well, and also Mark Trumbo, Brandon Phillips, Jonathan Papelbon and Billy Butler.

    In the end, there might not be a single one of them traded after baseball's decision-makers gather Sunday night for the start of the Winter Meetings. But it's noteworthy that so many teams are at least willing to discuss dealing some of their biggest names.

    One reason could be that teams are more aggressive than ever to make deals because they know the difference in talent among baseball's top 10-15 teams isn't dramatic.

    Payroll no longer decides pennant races. Smarts count, too, more than ever before. That's why the Cardinals, A's and Rays routinely finish in front of bigger-spending teams.

    Other owners and general managers look at those clubs and try to understand the success. If they're really studying, they'll see that postseason berths aren't always grabbed by the teams that make the splashiest offseason moves.

    The Giants grabbed Aubrey Huff off out of the bargain bin in January 2010. Seven months later, they got Cody Ross in a waiver deal with the Marlins.

    When all was said and done that year, there were not two more significant moves. Yes, the Giants also won because they'd acquired more pitching than any other club, but you see the point.

    And then two years ago, Giants general manager Brian Sabean went out and got Angel Pagan in the offseason and Marco Scutaro for the stretch run. Those moves created no more than a small ripple. Yet they were critical in San Francisco winning another World Series championship.

    The Giants still had great pitching. If they hadn't, Sabean's smart moves wouldn't have made all that much difference.

    The Red Sox signed seven free agents last offseason. Not one of them would be considered a star. But they ended up playing huge roles as Boston won its third World Series title in the past 10 seasons.

    So, with more parity than ever, teams believe they've got a chance to win. The Royals believe they'll be in the mix. The Pirates expect to be right back in the postseason. The Reds, Dodgers and others are close.

    There just aren't many five-year rebuilding plans anymore. There's no reason for them. There's also no reason to be cautious in personnel decisions.

    That's why Prince Fielder, Ian Kinsler and Doug Fister were traded, why Robinson Cano got a breathtaking contract from the Mariners and why Carlos Beltran, Jacoby Ellsbury, Jason Vargas and Curtis Granderson have changed teams.

    We hype the Winter Meetings almost every year, throwing out all the big trades that might be made, and then we inevitably are disappointed. We may be disappointed again this time, but it won't be because teams are running scared.

    That's probably why we've already had a flurry of deals. Most elite players are locked up by their teams before reaching free agency. So when one does actually go on the open market, there could be a feeding frenzy.

    Analysts focusing on the size of the contracts are missing the point. More than ever, teams are looking at the potential of an immediate return. If Cano helps Seattle win in 2014, there's a good chance there'll be a bigger flow of revenues from tickets, merchandise, sponsorships, etc.

    For the Mariners, the hard work begins now. It's one thing to outbid everyone to grab a superstar off the open market. It's another kind of challenge to identify other available veteran players and to piece together a contender.

    For instance, the Rangers took on a huge amount of money in trading Kinsler for Fielder. But then Texas general manager Jon Daniels began working around the edges. He acquired rookie left fielder Michael Choice from the A's and signed free-agent catcher J.P. Arencibia. Daniels still needs one more bat, but instead of going for the best available free agent (Shin-Soo Choo ), he could make a run at the next level of free agents, say, Michael Morse or Eric Chavez.

    As Daniels said recently, those big-name players are great grabs, but next season, we're going to find out that some of the best moves were the smaller signings that didn't seem significant at the time.

    And that's why we love the Hot Stove. It's fascinating to watch the various general managers approach roster construction and free agency. It's especially interesting to look back a year later and see what worked.

    In short, every team has an opportunity. Best of all, almost every team recognizes it has an opportunity. And that's probably why this off-season has already given us such a wild ride

     
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    Phillies Actively Shopping Domonic Brown By  Steve Adams [December 9 at 12:03pm CST]

    The Phillies are "actively shopping" Domonic Brown with an eye toward selling high on him in an effort to acquire controllable young pitching, reports Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (on Twitter).

    Brown, 26, batted .272/.324/.494 with 27 home runs in a breakout campaign for the Phillies in 2013 after being passed over for lackluster outfield options in seasons prior. Brown can be controlled through the 2017 season and isn't arbitration eligible until next winter, so any team acquiring his services would be getting four years of team control.

    However, he's graded out as a poor defensive left fielder and showed a sizable platoon split in 2013. Brown batted a strong .281/.336/.521 line with 21 of his homers against ri

     
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    Scott Lauber      

    Are Red Sox comfortable with Middlebrooks, Bradley, Bogaerts is same lineup? "Playing to their capabilities, yes," Farrell said

     
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    Scott Lauber       

    Farrell said Shane Victorino likely will return to switch-hitting.

     
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    Jenny Dell       

    Red Sox considering Victorino or Nava as lead off hitter. Farrell said they like Pedroia in two-hole, Ortiz at No. 3.

     
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    Scott Lauber       

    Farrell also mentioned adding a left side infielder as Red Sox top remaining priority. Left unsaid: Sox would love it to be Stephen Drew

     
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    Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 13m

    Farrell said he is comfortable with Bogaerts, Brady and Middlebrooks in the lineup "if they play to their capabilities."

    Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 1m

    Sorry for the autocorrect that confused many of you. Meant Bradley, not Brady.

     

    Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 2h

    Joe Maddon says moves made by #Yankees feel like a push.

    Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 34m

    Farrell spoke about liking @ShaneVictorino as a leadoff hitter.

     

     

     

     
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    Gordon Edes - ESPNBoston.com, Red Sox Reporter

    Kemp talks with Red Sox have not reached serious stage, and one Sox source said they're not going to
     
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    Scott Lauber       

    Cherington got more specific on search for another left side INF. "We need two guys to play shortstop," he said

     
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    Scott Lauber       

    "Handful" of teams have called about starting pitching surplus, Cherington said. Red Sox don't seem compelled to move pitcher

     
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    1. Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 2m
    2. Cherington said he's good with composition of OF. Doesn't see a platoon in CF. They seem comfortable with @JackieBradleyJr

     

    1. Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 6m

      Cherington just met with #RedSox writers. No major news. Said a "handful" of teams have inquired about their starters.

     
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    Jon Heyman       

    Mike Napoli got a limited no-trade clause in his $32M, 2-yr

     
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    Gordon Wittenmyer          

    Marmol back in NL Central? Ex Cubs closer talking to Brewers (and Red Sox) among 3-4 interested teams.

     
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    In response to 2004Idiot's comment:

    Jon Heyman       

    Mike Napoli got a limited no-trade clause in his $32M, 2-yr

     

    FanGraphs columnist Jeff Sullivan lauds the Red Sox signing of Mike Napoli:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/red-sox-land-an-eight-figure-bargain/

     
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