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    http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2013/12/choo-turned-down-seven-year-offer-from-yankees.html

    Wow.

     
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    Tanaka's Major League fate in hands of Japanese club Pitcher informs Rakuten Golden Eagles president of desire to showcase talent in US

    By John Schlegel / MLB.com | 12/17/2013 4:30 P.M. ET

    Even with a new posting system in place, the future of pitcher Masahiro Tanaka still hangs in the balance after the Japanese star met Tuesday with his Nippon Professional Baseball team, the Rakuten Golden Eagles.

    The 25-year-old starter, who went 24-0 with a 1.27 ERA to lead the Eagles to the NPB title last year, would be the most sought-after free-agent pitcher on the U.S. market this winter if his team makes him available, and he let the club know Tuesday that he wants that opportunity.

    "I informed my team that I would like them to allow me to test my abilities in Major League Baseball next season," Tanaka said after a meeting with Rakuten president Yozo Tachibana, according to The Associated Press.

    But it is still up to the team to post him, and it appears the Eagles are reluctant to do that.

    "We told him he is very important to us, and we'd like him to stay," Tachibana said in the AP report.

    Under the new posting system announced Monday, the fee due a Japanese team losing a player is capped at $20 million. Previously, higher fees were paid for players, such as the Rangers' Yu Darvish ($51.7 million). The window of time a team can post a player is from Nov. 1-Feb. 1.

    Tanaka would not be a free agent until 2015, so the club has the right to post him -- or not -- until that time. The Eagles of the Pacific League voted against the new posting agreement, a three-year pact.

    If the team does post Tanaka, the pitcher would be eligible to negotiate a contract with any team that offers the top fee, which in this case surely will be the $20 million maximum, presumably made by several Major League teams. A 30-day negotiating window would then begin, and if Tanaka did not sign within that time, he would return to the Golden Eagles and no fee would be collected. Otherwise, he would sign with a Major League team and move his career to the U.S.

    A veteran of seven seasons with the Eagles after debuting at age 18, Tanaka has played in the World Baseball Classic twice and pitched in the 2008 Summer Olympics. Tanaka, who also had a 1.27 ERA in 2011 while pitching 14 complete games and six shutouts that year, is 99-35 with a 2.30 ERA in 175 appearances (172 starts) for his career

     
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    Choo Turned Down Seven-Year Offer From Yankees By  Steve Adams [December 18 at 11:14am CST]

    While the market for Shin-Soo Choo has been slow to develop, he could have already found a home had accepted a lavish offer from the Yankees. Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports reportsthat even after signing Jacoby Ellsbury to a seven-year, $153MM contract, the Yankees offered Choo a seven-year, $140MM contract. Agent Scott Boras reportedly countered by asking for Ellsbury money, and the Yankees instead elected to sign Carlos Beltran to a much cheaper three-year, $45MM pact.

     
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    Alex Speier - WEEI.com, Red Sox Beat Writer

    Farrell said Sox are covered in terms of CF/RF depth, noting Nava's ability to play RF when Ellsbury was injured last year.
     
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    Ian Browne - MLB.com, Red Sox Beat Writer Andrew Miller getting healthy, chomping at bit to help Red Sox next season. Vows he'll be ready for Opener.
     
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    • The Red Sox want Stephen Drew back and hope to still re-sign him, manager John Farrell said during a radio appearance on WEEI's Hot Stove Show (partial transcript from WEEI.com's Alex Speier).  Boston's recent trade for Jonathan Herrera adds needed experience to their young left side of the infield, but Farrell said that there's mutual interest between Drew and the Sox in a reunion.
     
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    Peter Gammons     

    Stephen Drew's decision is awaiting some further Yankee clarity

     
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    IMHO, and I've proclaimed it since FA started this year, I hate to say it but I think Yankee Stadium would be the perfect landing spot for Drew. The short RF porch, great glove, they can move Jeter to 3 B with an occasional DH turn.

    Ells, Roberts, Drew and McCann---tight "D" up the middle.

    Tex, Roberts, Drew and Jeter.

    Gardiner, Ells and Beltran.

    McCann behind the plate and Soriano as the RHDH, Kelly Johnson as the LHDH.

    If their pitching holds up and they find a closer they could be very tough. 

     
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    Nava's Defense has gottten much better. He played very good RF last year. To me hardest Rightfield in Majors.

     
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    Peter Gammons     

    Stephen Drew's decision is awaiting some further Yankee clarity



    It seems that Drew has a standing offer to return to the Sox, the only thing TBD is the terms - and he's interested in returning. 

    I can't help but wonder how much more the Y's will pay to lure him away - and put themselves over the LT limit in the process. 

     
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    Question:
    In 09 the Sox signed Carlos Martinez of the Cards, contract was voided. Anybody remember why?

     
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    The Rays have reached an agreement with James Loney on a three-year, $21MM contract

     
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    • The Mets and agent Scott Boras have discussed parameters but no firm numbers forStephen Drew and right now, it looks like GM Sandy Alderson is sticking with Ruben Tejada. There’s always the Yankees, but Drew has never played anywhere but shortstop and Derek Jeter doesn’t appear to be moving to another position.  The road, for now, is still leading back to the Red Sox.
     
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    Question:
    In 09 the Sox signed Carlos Martinez of the Cards, contract was voided. Anybody remember why?

    Identity fraud, according this WEEI report:

    http://fullcount.weei.com/sports/boston/baseball/red-sox/2013/10/23/the-strange-red-sox-history-of-cardinals-flamethrower-carlos-martinez/

     
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    Losing Craig Shipley was big. Very good International Scout.

     
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    Max WildsteinMLB

    Red Sox may be interested in P Jesse Crain

     
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    Mets' Ricciardi On Ruben Tejada, Draft Picks By  Charlie Wilmoth [December 27 at 7:14pm CST]

    The Mets are happy with Ruben Tejada as their starting shortstop, special assistant J.P. Ricciardi tells WEEI's Rob Bradford and John McDonald (yes, that John McDonald). "I think in Ruben’€™s case, he got a lot early in his career and I think he’€™s starting to realize that he has to work a lot harder than he has in the past, and he has," Ricciardi says. "I think next year he’€™s going to be a better player than he was this previous year."

    Stephen Drew remains a free agent and would provide an immediate upgrade at shortstop. While Ricciardi doesn't go into details about Drew in particular, he makes clear that the shortstop market is not what the Mets would like it to be. "I think in this case there’€™s a lot of shortstops that are already in place," says Ricciardi.

     
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    Peter Gammons     

    Stephen Drew's decision is awaiting some further Yankee clarity



    It seems that Drew has a standing offer to return to the Sox, the only thing TBD is the terms - and he's interested in returning. 

    I can't help but wonder how much more the Y's will pay to lure him away - and put themselves over the LT limit in the process. 



    Drew won't sign with the Yankees for the same reason he turned down their offer for more $$ than the RS last season: he considers himself a starting FT shortstop.

     
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    from mlb.com...MLB columnists give their take on the 2014 season.....

    Baseball does not successfully lend itself to crystal balls, as any search through our archives for past predictions will no doubt reveal.

    Purely guessing what's going to happen in this game is a fool's errand, and reading palms is problematic if the palms in question are covered by batting gloves, catcher's mitts or pine tar.

    Ah, but that won't stop MLB.com's team of columnists from dabbling in the fortune-telling field for just a few moments. As we turn the page to 2014, this is a sampling of team achievements, star performances, individual awards, breakout seasons, etc., that we're expecting to see in the new year.

    And if none of this comes true, well, we'll just claim the crystal ball had a little too much of that Lena Blackburne mud rubbed on it.

    Mike Bauman

    The 2014 season will be characterized, he said, not really knowing, by terrific, dramatic division races.

    I would pay particular attention to the National League Central and the American League West as two focal points of this intense competition. This is not said to diminish the possibility of great races in the other four divisions. Far, far from it. But these two divisions are logical starting places when predicting good times for the next baseball season.

    The NL Central already was the first division in baseball history to qualify three teams for the postseason. The expanded Wild Card system made this possible, but so did the teams from St. Louis, Pittsburgh and Cincinnati.

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    None of these teams is going to fade quietly out of contention. The Cardinals, in particular, appear to be even better than the team that led the league in victories and won the NL pennant. But the other clubs remain talented. It will be fascinating to see what the Pirates do for an encore after breaking through to end their 20-year drought.

    In the AL West, Oakland remains underappreciated, but the A's don't have to care about that after winning the division the past two years. The Athletics' pitching depth can only be envied by the vast majority of clubs, and Oakland does a great job mixing, matching and patching together an effective lineup.

    The competition should be fierce.The Rangers have added major mid-lineup power in Prince Fielder, as well as a leadoff hitter in Shin-Soo Choo. The Angels have reasons to hope for bounce-back seasons from Albert Pujols and Josh Hamilton. And now, the Mariners have added considerable pop to their lineup, starting with, but not limited to, the leading free agent of this offseason, Robinson Cano.

    As long as we're out on a limb this early, how about the Cardinals and the Tigers in the 2014 World Series? Only 28 clubs would argue with those picks.

    Anthony Castrovince

    If we've learned anything from the first two years of the expanded Wild Card era, it's that the line between contenders and pretenders has blurred considerably. Last year's Red Sox and Indians are a great example of how the right tweaks in personnel and organizational attitude can vault an also-ran into a runner. In fact, every year of the Wild Card era, dating back to 1995, has seen at least one sub-.500 team from one season reach the playoffs the next.

    The Mariners, by virtue of the Cano acquisition and all that follows, will be a popular pick to make that kind of leap in 2014. But I also think the Padres, with some nice arms in-house and a potential boost from Josh Johnson, could make some noise in the NL West. Few teams were impacted by injury quite as much as the '13 Padres.

    This should be the year in which the Cardinals' Oscar Taveras, the D-backs' Archie Bradley, the White Sox's Jose Abreu and the Mariners' Taijuan Walker become nationally recognized names (the M's, of course, would be wise to let Walker do so in their uniform and not that of the Rays).

    This could be the year Mike Trout finally overtakes Miguel Cabrera in the AL MVP vote, particularly with Cabrera coming off groin surgery.

    This ought to be the year the Royals finally get over the October hump, lest the ghost of Wil Myers hover over their heads for the next six seasons. As we sit here today, considering how fundamentally different the Tigers are going to be, the AL Central seems a bit more open than it's been in some time. The White Sox and Twins have undoubtedly improved, and the Indians remain a threat. But with James Shields, Billy Butler and Norichika Aoki all nearing free agency, the Royals have a pivotal opportunity in 2014, and I have a hunch they'll seize it.

    This will almost assuredly be the year the Rangers are the consensus pick to win the World Series. And as much as I fear being part of that consensus, it's hard to argue with it right now.

    Oh, and I really, really, really like the Nationals' chances of reaching the World Series, as well. Just as I did a year ago. But I really mean it this time, I promise.

    Paul Hagen

    Umpires will become a focal point of attention like never before in 2014 as expanded instant replay and the banning of collisions at home plate -- both expected to be approved by Major League Baseball's owners in January -- dramatically changes the way the game is governed on the field.

    It's not hyperbole to suggest that the sweeping changes in one offseason will be unprecedented.

    The old maxim which held that umpires had a good game if they went unnoticed became updated long ago. With almost every game on television and so many cameras providing viewers with multiple angles for replays, the men in blue have been part of the nightly drama for a while now. And, given that, it was inevitable that baseball would eventually harness the technology in an attempt to eliminate mistakes that could alter the outcome of games.

    Adding what almost has to be a judgment call on plays at the plate only adds to the attention umpires will receive.

    Surely, there will be glitches as the replay system is rolled out and the new collisions rule is implemented. Just as surely, adjustments will be made as time goes on to iron out the kinks.

    One side effect will be that fans will have more than ever to debate. Should a manager risk a challenge early in the game, knowing he might need it later? Does the viewer agree with the conclusion of the replay official based in New York?

    It will be different. It will, at times, be controversial. But the twin objectives -- player safety and getting it right -- are too important to ignore.

    Richard Justice

    Parity rocks the house in 2014. Twenty teams will be within five games of a playoff berth on Sept. 1. So brace yourselves for surprises. The Angels and Royals will be playing October baseball. The Yankees and Tigers won't. The Red Sox will win the AL East, but the Rays will be back in the postseason for the fifth time in seven seasons. Someone will write that they're the most improbable dynasty in the history of professional sports.

    Trout will edge Pujols for the AL MVP. Yes, that Albert Pujols. He's going to have a monstrous bounce-back season, and when baseball's best players are discussed, he'll again be in the conversation.

    Joe Maddon will be the AL Manager of the Year, David Price the AL Cy Young Award winner. He'll win it while pitching for the Rays, because general manager Andrew Friedman decided his team couldn't make the postseason without its No. 1 starter.

    Over in the NL, the Padres just might be positioned to shock the world. The Cardinals will make the postseason again, and absolutely no one will be surprised. Their second baseman, Kolten Wong, will be the NL Rookie of the Year.

    The Nationals will take the NL East back from the Braves. As for those NL Wild Card berths, at least seven teams will be in contention the final week of the regular season. The Reds and Braves will prevail.

    Let's pencil in Stephen Strasburg for the NL Cy Young Award and Matt Kemp to be the NL MVP. No, he won't be traded. And when all is said and done, the Cardinals and Angels will give us a tremendously entertaining World Series.

    Cardinals in seven.

    Tracy Ringolsby

    It's been 28 years since the Kansas City Royals last saw the postseason. They actually won the World Series in 1985. It's been long enough. The Royals returned to being competitive in 2013. Now, they can take the next step back and return to October baseball in '14.

    The adjustments have had a year to settle in. Shields, aka Big Game James, is ready to make a statement of his own with free agency pending, and the young bats in the Royals' lineup have had enough time to get over the jitters.

    And just think of the storylines if the Pittsburgh Pirates and Royals were to meet in the World Series. Bucs manager Clint Hurdle began his career with Kansas City, its first-round Draft pick back in June 1975, and was the first baseman for the Royals in '80, their first World Series appearance.

    Dusty Baker will be back managing by the All-Star break. An owner will want Baker -- a manager with a track record who has shown he knows how to massage egos and create a winner.

    Trout has been close but not close enough in AL MVP voting the past two years. He'll get his first in 2014. Meanwhile, in the Senior Circuit, advantage Andrew McCutchen, who becomes the first NL player to claim the MVP Award in back-to-back seasons since Pujols in 2008-09.

    Phil Rogers

    Meet Abreu, No. 79 on your program and baseball's man of mystery.

    This will be the year that North American fans learn he is one of the best hitters on the planet, to the delight of the White Sox. Their $68 million investment in the Cuban slugger will be money well spent as he picks up an AL Rookie of the Year Award and even some MVP consideration after joining fellow newcomers Adam Eaton and Avisail Garcia in making it fun to watch baseball on Chicago's South Side.

    After losing 99 games in 2013, the White Sox will matter again, with Chris Sale building off his success the last two season and John Danks bouncing back from shoulder surgery to work 200 solid innings. But Abreu will be the guy who leads the White Sox back, hitting home runs to all fields and proving himself to be a very tough out in addition to a long-ball threat.

    Abreu's totals in Cuba's Serie Nacional are the stuff of legends. He wasn't too bad for Cuba in the 2013 World Baseball Classic either, going 9-for-25 with three home runs, six runs and nine RBIs in six games. If he can make the jump to the Major Leagues as easily as Yoenis Cespedes and Yasiel Puig have the past two seasons, the White Sox will have an answer for Cabrera. That's how much of an upside he has.

    But let's don't get carried away. Until some of that pitching goes away, the AL Central still belongs to the Tigers, even if the Royals (43-27 after the All-Star break last year) and Indians are positioned to catch them.

    The AL will have to go through the Tigers and the Rangers, who with Fielder and Choo could get to the World Series again. The Detroit-Texas survivor is most likely to meet the Dodgers or Cardinals in the World Series, although it would be nice to see the McCutchen's Pirates build off their recent success.

    Lyle Spencer

    Boston will be strong again, even with Jacoby Ellsbury taking his talents to the South Bronx. The Red Sox have the weaponry to repeat. The Yankees smartly spread the funds allocated for Cano around in areas of need. Nobody replaces Mariano Rivera, but class act Carlos Beltran will look great in pinstripes along with Ellsbury and Brian McCann. Pitching will tell the Bronx tale. Yanks fans dream about a staff like the one peerless manager Maddon maneuvers in Tampa Bay, keeping the Rays in contention on a shoestring. The Orioles and improved Blue Jays will be competitive.

    The AL West, like the East, should be a beast in 2014. The Rangers will be back in mash mode, with Fielder bashing in front of Adrian Beltre and Choo setting and clearing the table. Yu Darvish is the whole truth, but closer Joe Nathan might be missed. The upwardly mobile A's are leaning on Scott Kazmir and Jim Johnson to replace Bartolo Colon and Grant Balfour, and the baseball gods are overdue to smile on GM Billy Beane and Co. in October. Pujols and Hamilton will rebound in support of Trout, and as hard as it was to deal Mark Trumbo to Arizona, lively young arms Tyler Skaggs and Hector Santiago should improve the Angels significantly along with reliable reliever Joe Smith. Cano makes the Mariners relevant, and their young pitching could be second only to St. Louis' collection of arms. Houston, stockpiling prospects, will be relevant in a year or two.

    The ever-improving and maturing Royals are on the move, with Salvador Perez emerging as the new Yadier Molina, but the Tigers remain the class of the AL Central, armed to reach the Fall Classic. They'll meet the Dodgers, fending off the D-backs and Giants in a strong NL West with great pitching, a full season of Puig and comebacking Kemp showing the world he's still Kemp.

    The Braves will be tough as usual in the East, but the NL centers again around the Cardinals and Dodgers. They're so deep, so good, it's easy to see them facing off in another NL Championship Series showdown. Peter Bourjos brings game-changing speed to St. Louis, which should hold off the surging Pirates and Reds, and look for Dan Haren to rebound in a brilliant Dodgers rotation led by incomparable Clayton Kershaw and Zack Greinke.

    AL MVP? Trout, best player in baseball, finally overtakes Cabrera, who will miss the lineup presence of buddy Prince, who gives Texas a big year. NL MVP: Allen Craig. Mr. Clutch can drive in 140 runs if he stays healthy behind Matt Carpenter, Bourjos and Matt Holliday

     
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    Peter Gammons:

     

    Stephen Drew

    "Last winter, the Yankees wanted to sign Stephen Drew, but were told he would only play shortstop. So he ended up with Boston. But this week Scott Boras dropped several hints that Drew would be willing to play other positions, which might make him more attractive to both the Red Sox and Yankees; Boston might be able to use him at short, third and even first base, and the Yankees could play him at second and third and have him as insurance if Derek Jeter has any physical problems. In fact, Drew’s value may be greater if he will play several positions.

    What the Red Sox have yet to decide is whether Drew would be comfortable as a utilityman, considering how hard he worked to come back from a serious ankle injury and the diligence with which he prepared the entire 2013 season. Early on in their negotiations, Red Sox GM Ben Cherington let Drew and Boras know that the plans are for Xander Bogaerts to be the Boston shortstop, which might limit Drew to games at first, third and short against righthanded pitching."

     
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    Pete Abraham @PeteAbe 20h

    #RedSox players Burke Badenhop, Mike Carp, Jonathan Herrera, Andrew Miller and Junichi Tazawa filed for arbitration.

     
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    Stephen Drew

    "Last winter, the Yankees wanted to sign Stephen Drew, but were told he would only play shortstop. So he ended up with Boston. But this week Scott Boras dropped several hints that Drew would be willing to play other positions, which might make him more attractive to both the Red Sox and Yankees; Boston might be able to use him at short, third and even first base, and the Yankees could play him at second and third and have him as insurance if Derek Jeter has any physical problems. In fact, Drew’s value may be greater if he will play several positions.

    What the Red Sox have yet to decide is whether Drew would be comfortable as a utilityman, considering how hard he worked to come back from a serious ankle injury and the diligence with which he prepared the entire 2013 season. Early on in their negotiations, Red Sox GM Ben Cherington let Drew and Boras know that the plans are for Xander Bogaerts to be the Boston shortstop, which might limit Drew to games at first, third and short against righthanded pitching."




    Interesting.

     
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    Alfredo Aceves agrees to a minor league deal with Orioles 01.15.14 at 4:24 pm ET By Rob Bradford       0 Comments   Alfredo Aceves

    Alfredo Aceves

    Former Red Sox pitcher Alfredo Aceves has agreed to a minor league deal with the Orioles, with an invitation to major league camp. According to USA Today, the righty will receive a base salary of $1.2 million if he makes the major league team, with an opportunity to reach $3 million with incentives.

    The 31-year-old last pitched in the major leagues July 9, completing a 2013 season with the Red Sox in which he made 11 appearances (making six starts). Aceves finished ’13 with a 4.86 ERA, allowing a .288 batting average against in 37 innings.

    Aceves made eight starts for Triple-A Pawtucket, going 4-2 with a 4.06 ERA. He had been designated for assignment by the Red Sox in July, with a team source classifying him as no longer a “reliable” major league contributor. He first joined the Red Sox in ’11.

    Aceves had been pitching in Mexican Winter League this offseason, making four outings (all in relief).

     

     
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    Sox still need a CF insurance policy, the only rumblings I've heard are they might offer Podsednick a minor league deal with an invite to ST, they have a pitcher or two they could trade in order to procure a CF, and there are still some viable options available on the free agent market.

     
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    Ken Rosenthal          

    Sources: Phillies, Red Sox, Royals among teams considering free-agent RHP Ryan Madson. Hasn’t pitched since ’11 due to elbow issues.

     
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