Hot Stove League Discussion Thread

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    Dustin Pedroia tells WEEI that he expects to have surgery in a couple weeks to repair torn thumb ligament

     
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    Pete Abraham   

    As expected the Red Sox picked up the 2014 option on LHP

     
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    Scott Lauber/BostonHerald      

    Dustin Pedroia tells WEEI that he expects to have surgery in a couple weeks to repair torn thumb ligament



    And lets hope he never slides head first into first base again!  That is not a smart play. You do not get there faster.

     
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    At this time last year, how many Red Sox fans would have been content with a Hot Stove season that added Shane Victorino (3 years, $39 million), Ryan Dempster (2 years, $26.5 million), Stephen Drew ($1 year, $9.5 million), Mike Napoli, Jonny Gomes, David Ross, Koji Uehara and, via trade, Joel Hanrahan and Mike Carp?

    Yet it all worked out in a big way.

     
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    2013 Red Sox Offseason moves:

    October
    • On October 4, 2012 the Red Sox fired Bobby Valentine.
    • On October 21, 2012 the Red Sox hired John Farrell to be the new manager of the team.
    • On October 21, 2012 the Red Sox traded SS Mike Aviles to the Blue Jays for David Carpenter as part of the compensation for manager John Farrell.
    November
    • On November 10, 2012, the Red Sox reportedly came to an agreement with former Atlanta Braves catcher David Ross worth $6.2M over two years.
    • On November 21, 2012, the Red Sox reportedly signed former Oakland Athletics outfielder Jonny Gomes to a two-year contract worth $10 million.
    December
    • On December 3, 2012, the Red Sox agreed to terms with former Texas Rangers and Los Angeles Angels catcher and 1st baseman Mike Napoli for a 3-year, $39 million contract. The deal was not official until late January because of his hip problems. The deal was reworked for a 1-year, $5 million contract.
    • On December 4, 2012, the Red Sox signed former Philadelphia Phillies and Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Shane Victorino for a 3-year, $39 million contract.
    • On December 6, 2012, the Red Sox signed former Baltimore Orioles and Texas Rangers relief pitcher Koji Uehara to a deal
    • On December 17, 2012, the Red Sox signed former Arizona Diamondbacks and Oakland Athletics shortstop Stephen Drew to a 1-year, $9.5 million deal.
    • On December 26, 2012, the Red Sox acquired closer Joel Hanrahan and second baseman/shortstop Brock Holt from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for relief pitcher Mark Melancon, 1st baseman/outfielder Jerry Sands, infielder Iván DeJesús, Jr., and pitcher Stolmy Pimentel.
    January
    • On January 31, 2013, the Red Sox signed veteran first baseman Lyle Overbay to a one-year minor league contract.
    February
    • On February 20, 2013, the Red Sox acquired former Seattle Mariners first baseman Mike Carp for cash considerations.
    Opening Day lineup   2 Jacoby Ellsbury CF 18 Shane Victorino RF 15 Dustin Pedroia 2B 12 Mike Napoli 1B 16 Will Middlebrooks 3B   5 Jonny Gomes DH 39 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C 44 Jackie Bradley, Jr. LF 10 José Iglesias SS 31 Jon Lester

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    Scott Lauber/BostonHerald      

    John Farrell: "The one damper, to me, is that this group may never be together again"

     
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    Scott Lauber/BostonHerald  

    Salty on staying Red Sox: “It’s been home for me for the past 3-4 years. Things are going to work out the way they’re going to work out"

     
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    Pete Abraham   

    The Red Sox  declined their $6 million option on LHP Matt Thornton. He's a free agent.

     
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    In response to 2004Idiot's comment:
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    2013 Red Sox Offseason moves:

    October

    • On October 4, 2012 the Red Sox fired Bobby Valentine.
    • On October 21, 2012 the Red Sox hired John Farrell to be the new manager of the team.
    • On October 21, 2012 the Red Sox traded SS Mike Aviles to the Blue Jays for David Carpenter as part of the compensation for manager John Farrell.

    November

    • On November 10, 2012, the Red Sox reportedly came to an agreement with former Atlanta Braves catcher David Ross worth $6.2M over two years.
    • On November 21, 2012, the Red Sox reportedly signed former Oakland Athletics outfielder Jonny Gomes to a two-year contract worth $10 million.

    December

    • On December 3, 2012, the Red Sox agreed to terms with former Texas Rangers and Los Angeles Angels catcher and 1st baseman Mike Napoli for a 3-year, $39 million contract. The deal was not official until late January because of his hip problems. The deal was reworked for a 1-year, $5 million contract.
    • On December 4, 2012, the Red Sox signed former Philadelphia Phillies and Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder Shane Victorino for a 3-year, $39 million contract.
    • On December 6, 2012, the Red Sox signed former Baltimore Orioles and Texas Rangers relief pitcher Koji Uehara to a deal
    • On December 17, 2012, the Red Sox signed former Arizona Diamondbacks and Oakland Athletics shortstop Stephen Drew to a 1-year, $9.5 million deal.
    • On December 26, 2012, the Red Sox acquired closer Joel Hanrahan and second baseman/shortstop Brock Holt from the Pittsburgh Pirates in exchange for relief pitcher Mark Melancon, 1st baseman/outfielder Jerry Sands, infielder Iván DeJesús, Jr., and pitcher Stolmy Pimentel.

    January

    • On January 31, 2013, the Red Sox signed veteran first baseman Lyle Overbay to a one-year minor league contract.

    February

    • On February 20, 2013, the Red Sox acquired former Seattle Mariners first baseman Mike Carp for cash considerations.

    Opening Day lineup  2 Jacoby Ellsbury CF 18 Shane Victorino RF 15 Dustin Pedroia 2B 12 Mike Napoli 1B 16 Will Middlebrooks 3B   5 Jonny Gomes DH 39 Jarrod Saltalamacchia C 44 Jackie Bradley, Jr. LF 10 José Iglesias SS 31 Jon Lester

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    Napoli got about $8M in bonuses.

    We extended Breslow.

    Since the Dodger trade last August, Ben has put his mark on this team, and I like it!

     
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    Thornton is gone- no surprise.

     
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    I wouldn't be surprised to see Red Sox Bench coach Torey Lovullo end up as the new coach of the Cubs. 

     
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    Jacoby Ellsbury free agency: Red Sox OF asked for $130 million

    By Marc Normandin @Marc_Normandin on Oct 31 2013, 10:58a +


    The World Series is over, so, for the Red Sox' front office, it's time to start thinking about next year. One of the first items on the list for this off-season is the free agency of Jacoby Ellsbury: if the past is any indication, according to Buster Olney, Ellsbury is going to be in line for a huge payday that the Red Sox won't be willing to pay themselves.


    Olney reports that Ellsbury's agent, Scott Boras, countered Boston's roughly $100 million extension offer with a $130 million deal following his MVP-caliber 2011 season, and the Red Sox declined. Following Ellsbury's down 2012, in which he was injured and ineffective, Boston came back to the negotiating table and submitted an offer similar to what would B.J. Upton would sign with the Braves that winter, around five years and $75 million. Now he has rebounded, and while the power isn't there like it was two years ago, he's one of the game's most significant baserunning threats, is still a productive, top-of-the-order threat, and is a plus defender at an up-the-middle position: Ellsbury is going to get paid, and likely not by Boston.

    The Red Sox will submit a qualifying offer to Jacoby Ellsbury before the deadline, as it's the only way to recoup some value for losing him to another team -- Olney cites the Mariners and Rangers as the favorites, and that's no surprise, as both clubs have been chasing him for well over a year now in the trade market. The good news, though, is that Ellsbury won two rings with the Red Sox, and was an integral piece of both clubs. It's hard to ask for a player drafted and developed by an organization to do more for a team than Ellsbury has, and with that draft pick incoming, assuming he does bolt, he's not done giving quite yet

    [/QUOTE]BYE,BYE Jacoby,  don't let the door hit you in the arrrrs on the way out.......  Ask Fred Lynn about baseball outside of Boston......  


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    Lynn was traded (and it was a decent trade as we got Frank Tanana in return)

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    In any event, Fred was never the same player/hitter when he wasn't playing 80+ games in Fenway PAAAAK  !!


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    It wasn't the park that hurt Lynn's career; it was injuries.

    BTW, Lynn had better numbers at Shea, Candlestick, and Dodger Stadiums.

     
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    Ken Rosenthal/FoxSports      

    Sources: Red Sox’s Lovullo will indeed interview with Cubs, most likely early this week.

     
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    They can just non-tender Bailey (Arb 3) Miller should make around 2-3M (Arb 3) and Morales (Arb 3) will be around the same price. They can ALL be non-tendered and offered lower deals OR sign them for whatever the arb number is for one year (2014).

    I think they offer all 3 arb, and then try and trade 2 of them to make room for some young pitchers.

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    Bailey made 4.1M this year. He should get 5M in 2014. You would pay him that ffor 2 injury filled years? Me? Id non-tender him and ask if he would come back on a lesser deal.

    Miller and Morales should make about 2-2.5M each. Thats ok for 2 LHP in the pen.

     
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    Will Middlebrooks - 3B -  Red Sox

    Marlins general manager Dan Jennings told SiriusXM's Jim Bowden in an interview Sunday that the club has discussed both Mark Trumbo and Will Middlebrooks with their scouts.

    The Marlins know they need to add more punch to their lineup and could do so with the addition of either corner infielder. "We like both guys," Jennings said. "We're not there yet in terms of close to any deals." The Angels are known to be shopping Trumbo for pitching, and the Red Sox could conceivably deal Middlebrooks if they put Xander Bogaerts at third instead of shortstop next season. Related:  Mark Trumbo

     

     
     
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    [QUOTE]Will Middlebrooks - 3B -  Red Sox

    Marlins general manager Dan Jennings told SiriusXM's Jim Bowden in an interview Sunday that the club has discussed both Mark Trumbo and Will Middlebrooks with their scouts.

    The Marlins know they need to add more punch to their lineup and could do so with the addition of either corner infielder. "We like both guys," Jennings said. "We're not there yet in terms of close to any deals." The Angels are known to be shopping Trumbo for pitching, and the Red Sox could conceivably deal Middlebrooks if they put Xander Bogaerts at third instead of shortstop next season. Related:  Mark Trumbo

     

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    Theres going to be a lot of talk with Middys name this winter after Xander played a decent 3b. I think the Sox will keep him, but could be tempted if the return is signifigant.

     
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    They can just non-tender Bailey (Arb 3) Miller should make around 2-3M (Arb 3) and Morales (Arb 3) will be around the same price. They can ALL be non-tendered and offered lower deals OR sign them for whatever the arb number is for one year (2014).

    I think they offer all 3 arb, and then try and trade 2 of them to make room for some young pitchers.

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    Bailey was injured too in Oakland. Agree about Non-Tender him.

    Bailey made 4.1M this year. He should get 5M in 2014. You would pay him that ffor 2 injury filled years? Me? Id non-tender him and ask if he would come back on a lesser deal.

    Miller and Morales should make about 2-2.5M each. Thats ok for 2 LHP in the pen.

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    Miller is a Loogy, a lot of money for that.

     
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    Whats the trickle down effect when Jacoby leaves?

     
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    Since they came up in 2007 , I have felt that the Sox are at their best with Ellsbury and Pedroia at the top of the lineup. I would like to see that continue. As for the money, that is strictly up to John Henry. It is his money, not ours. For us to speculate about dollar amounts is meaningless. 

     
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    They can just non-tender Bailey (Arb 3) Miller should make around 2-3M (Arb 3) and Morales (Arb 3) will be around the same price. They can ALL be non-tendered and offered lower deals OR sign them for whatever the arb number is for one year (2014).

    I think they offer all 3 arb, and then try and trade 2 of them to make room for some young pitchers.

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    Bailey made 4.1M this year. He should get 5M in 2014. You would pay him that ffor 2 injury filled years? Me? Id non-tender him and ask if he would come back on a lesser deal.

    Miller and Morales should make about 2-2.5M each. Thats ok for 2 LHP in the pen.

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    He's not guaranteed a raise.

    If Ben thinks he might win a $5M deal, then yes, I'd nontender him, but if he will get $3.5-4.2M, we could sign him and then trade him, even if we eat some of his money, we can get a decent prospect for him, depending on his physical.

     
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    Miller is a Loogy, a lot of money for that.

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    Umm.... not really:

    2013

    vs RHBs: .155/.319/.207/.526

    vs LHBs: .281/.339/.386/.725

     
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