How big of a loss is Bartolo Colon going to be for the Yanks?

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    How big of a loss is Bartolo Colon going to be for the Yanks?

    After an offseason that included a very shady shoulder surgery that I strongly believe clearly included some sort of performance enhancing drug, Colon has almost single handedly kept the Yankees rotation respectable.  His hamstring injury could prove to be devestating.

    Thoughts?
     
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    Re: How big of a loss is Bartolo (PED) Colon going to be for the Yanks?

    Shoulder surgery and the use of stem cells. Not shady nor were PEDs included. Do not put stuff out there that is not factual
     
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    Re: How big of a loss is Bartolo (PED) Colon going to be for the Yanks?

    If hes out for any amount of time, yes its devestating..I think it was some kind of "stem-cell" thing SPC...but ya never know in the DR..I figured it was only a matter of time before he and garcia broke down anyway..no surprise really..
     
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    Re: How big of a loss is Bartolo (PED) Colon going to be for the Yanks?

    There must have been some sort of PED involved in that.  There's no way that guy is doing this naturally I'm sorry.  From what I've heard, the doctor that did the proccedure is known for supplying HGH as well.
     
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    Gotta agree with Jim on being factual SPC...But like I said..Its the DR, so ya never know...
     
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    Bill is a happy man today as it would seem on other posts also today.....
     
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    Isn't MLB still looking into this surgery though?  I just can't see this being all natural hard work, I'm sorry.  Something isn't adding up with this.
     
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    He has been pitching great as a starter for the Yankees and will be missed--a lot. 
     
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    Every doctor and research scientist in the world will tell you there is no way stem cells had anything to do with Colon's recovery.  It doesn't work that way.  I am sure some doctor did that treatment on him, but reality is injecting stem cells does not heal you like that.  If it did, we would be saving dying people right now, not worrying about Colon's pitching career. 

    I don't know how Colon got better, I assume he worked hard at things besides eating and he eventually healed.   But enough of this stem cell BS, that story is why he is being investigated in the first place.   It brings up the question what the doctor who treated him "really" did.    

     
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    This will hurt the Yanks no doubt. The mounting list of injuries is similar to what the Sox went through last season and we all remember that. As far as Colon using PED's, there is no proof so any accusations are just stupid, kind of like those who have accused Ortiz without any proof.
     
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    Every doctor and research scientist in the world will tell you there is no way stem cells had anything to do with Colon's recovery.  It doesn't work that way.  I am sure some doctor did that treatment on him, but reality is injecting stem cells does not heal you like that.  If it did, we would be saving dying people right now, not worrying about Colon's pitching career.  I don't know how Colon got better, I assume he worked hard at things besides eating and he eventually healed.   But enough of this stem cell BS, that story is why he is being investigated in the first place.   It brings up the question what the doctor who treated him "really" did.    
    Posted by soxmeister


    Stem cells can be used to help a lot of people, they can be used to regrow damaged human tissue, the reason we don't research them has to do with the same debate that swirls around abortion. This is one area that the United States is behind in medically. Whether or not this doctor in the DR used them is beyond my knowledge, whether this type of procedure is currently possible is also beyond my comprehension, if with research a procedure like the one described would be possible I am sure of.
     
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    Re: How big of a loss is Bartolo Colon going to be for the Yanks?

    I GUESS "ACE"  POSADA WILL PITCH!
     
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    Re: How big of a loss is Bartolo Colon going to be for the Yanks?

    It is quite common for 300lb 100 year old pitchers to go from throwing in the low 80s to low 90 in a year. He got what he deserves. APB: Andy Pettite.

    Side note: not sure what my favorite Yankee happening of the week was: Burnett getting shelled, Sloba done for the year or Swisher getting snipered on Lowrie's triple.

    So hard to choose.
     
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    I hope it pushed them to be desperate and be forced to get fleeced in a trade.
     
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    Saw the injury play on ESPN highlights - didn't look all that serious to me.  Look's like a pulled/tweaked hammy.  Usually, tweaked hammys (except for JD's) heal in a reasonable amount of time, wouldn't count on him missing more than a couple of starts.  If it is more serious, the Yanks will need spot starts until they con (as usual) some dufus team into trading a great pitcher for a couple of baskets of baseballs (and taking salary off the team's hands).  Don't see this materializing for a few weeks, so they'll just have to do what every other team does in this situation - hope to get decent spot starts, call a kid up from the farm, and hope like heck the top 3 in the rotation do-the-do.  Face it, with that line-up, a guy with a 5.5 ERA has a chance to be a better-than-.500 pitcher.
     
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    I hope it pushed them to be desperate and be forced to get fleeced in a trade.
    Posted by drdinduluth
    DRD, while i dispute the desperate part, i think it's pretty much a given that the trading team will attempt to hold the Yanks up in terms of return...just speaking for myself i prefer they bring a couple of guys up and plug them in...being that Hughes may be closer to returning..i have no doubt the chances of landing a frontline type will be slim.. if they have to trade, they should take their chances with an "innings" type guy.....though i think it's a certainty,i hope Colon can dodge a DL stint...as a Yank fan, i'm definitely not comfortable with the prospect of having to win 9 to 8 games every night... 
     
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    After an offseason that included a very shady shoulder surgery that I strongly believe clearly included some sort of performance enhancing drug, Colon has almost single handedly kept the Yankees rotation respectable.  His hamstring injury could prove to be devestating. Thoughts?
    Posted by SoxPatsCelts1988


         It was just a matter of time before the wheels fell off on the 37 year old Colon. Freddie Garcia is next.

         If the Yankees wish to seriopusly contend, they must deal for a quality starter.
     
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    The betting line in Vegas is that Kansas City gets back to the playoffs before the Yankees develop a starter.
     
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    It will be a huge advantage to C.C. Sabathia.  More access to clubhouse snacks.
     
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    It's funny how we can question Colon and Jose Bautista on this forum yet nobody brings up Big Papi who all of a sudden has regained his bat speed from 5 yrs ago.

    And please don't say it's all about "protection" in the lineup
     
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    It may be a blessing for Janquis Banditos. If this happens later in the year it would be more difficult to make a move. Now Los Yankeys can go out and buy someone....little good it will do them.
     
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    Every doctor and research scientist in the world will tell you there is no way stem cells had anything to do with Colon's recovery.  It doesn't work that way.Posted by soxmeister


    Are you a doctor?

    I think it sounds reasonable.  Hell I'd do it myself if I could get my own arm back.  This is Dr. Purita's website -- the guy who did Bartolo.

    http://www.stemcellorthopedic.com/index.html

    http://www.stemcellorthopedic.com/conditions-treated/rotator-cuff.html
     
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    His personal Mule is very upset...
     
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    In Response to Re: How big of a loss is Bartolo Colon going to be for the Yanks? : If Colon thought he was acting legitimately, why didn't he tell the Yankees about the procedure?  

    Posted by slomag

    Maybe you should ask him.

     
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