How important is it to win the AL East?

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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How important is it to win the AL East? : Variables???? Like a manager who refuses to play for the division title? That should not be a variable...variables are injuries and scheduling - but in our situation we have to factor in the playschool lineups that seem to dominate our games as the season wears on and our players are too tired or hurt to play...
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    Papi will be back next Tuesday. Let's hope that he doesn't rupture an achillies tendon. Dr. Cater recommends a strong dose of steroids.

     
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    Spike, here is your prescription for Paxil
    -Dr. Cater
     
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    It is not important that we win the east, but rather are we good enough in most pitching match-ups against top teams to win in the playoffs.  With recent performances and injuries it is very much in question.  The team derailed in August due to injuries last year at this time and this year it has been like a slow leak in a boat.

    I know the blind faithful think it is crazy to doubt this team but other than batters 1,2, and 3 the rest of the Red Sox are digging themselves a hole they got out of in April.  Hopefully they will do it again.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How important is it to win the AL East? : are you saying starting these guys every fifth game is tantamount to injuring them???? do they need extra rest??? sounds like a lot of bootlicking bunk to me - I can see the Francona excuse makers are out in full force today as we occupy second place
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]No Georom that isn't what I am saying. BUT at some point Francona is going to have to juggle the rotation to get them in 1-2 order. And that is more important than whether they face Detroit or TX in the first round.

    So is having Ortiz and Youk as healthy as possible. It doesn't have anything to do with bootlicking. It is just common sense.

    Now if anybody here thinks that the 2-10 stretch was going to be the only speed bump this team was going to have all year, may the heavens bless you. You either haven't watched this game enough (which I doubt) or your expectations don't line-up with reality.

    Sad fact in all of this is that the RS pitching staff isn't all that great. Bedard is wild card, Lackey and Wake are basically inning eaters that need 4-5 runs of support and then you have Lester who is still tough but the command of his cutter has been off all year and Beckett who is having a A+ year so far.

    The question was what was more important, rotation lined up and everybody healthy or the division. My answer was while you would like both, not having Beckett and Lester lined up 1-2 in the first round was more important and frankly winning in 4 so they would be lined up in the next round CRITICAL.
     
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    "Sad fact in all of this is that the RS pitching staff isn't all that great"
    I don't know if I agree. 
    Beckett, Lester, two aces --- check
    Bard, Papelbon, best 1-2 set up to closer duo in MLB -- check
    Aceves, best long reliever in AL -- check
    Wheeler, solid middle reliever -- check
    Albers, maybe some chinks in the armour, but often also solid -- check
    Wakefield, Lackey, Bedard....If anyone had to start a playoff game, I don't have a problem with that. Serviceable starters who can each come up big (although Lackey is the weakest of the three).
    Lefty reliever specialist--missing 
    -Dr. Cater



     
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    It's important and a team has all year to make a plan to get there. What happened before is just as important as what ends up, as far as winning the division. If the offensive erratic mania and big lows continue, and the starting pitching continues to be unimpressive, punting on the division may be necessary.

    Right now, the OF is a pitiful construction on Epstein's part. Team balance is very important in all areas of the roster.
     
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    [QUOTE]It is not important that we win the east, but rather are we good enough in most pitching match-ups against top teams to win in the playoffs.  With recent performances and injuries it is very much in question.  The team derailed in August due to injuries last year at this time and this year it has been like a slow leak in a boat. I know the blind faithful think it is crazy to doubt this team but other than batters 1,2, and 3 the rest of the Red Sox are digging themselves a hole they got out of in April.  Hopefully they will do it again.
    Posted by concord27[/QUOTE]

    Didn't last year's boat have 19 on the DL including Ellsbury, Cameron, Pedroia, Varitek, and Beckett out for months and Scutaro playing injured? Isn't the slump of recent days being exaggerated in this den of pessimists, skeptics, and cynics. The playoffs are a crapshoot. Wasn't the ALDS series in 2004 decided by a GRD that fortunately bounced into the RF stands and miracle after miracle by the Sox in late innings. Did we feel entitled to win in 2004? Did we feel lucky to have won it all? Why the entitlement now. Let's just enjoy the ride and be hopeful but not entitled.
     
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    Not very.  Home field advantage is generally advantageous, but the other factors combined are more important....obviously given the results of the past 10 years.

    Then extend the logic:  would you prefer to win the division via a 161st game, 18 inning dogfight, or cruise to a 5-games back wild card slot with your starters lined up and a few key players rested?
     
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    Its real important and was real important when the Red Sox were playing lights out in the month of July.  Whats the matter Red Sox fan, starting to see a few holes in the product?   There goes the Yankees and sorry Roid Sox fan here comes Tampa, you may be the Third wheel on a two wheel bike.  Watch out below!!!!!!!!!!!
     
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    Francoma's view is flawed.  You play to win the division.  Girardi believes this; watch how he manages and how they play.  I'm sure Belichick would let Brady rest because it's a team game.
     
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    Line up your starters for games 1 and 2...that's what i would do. Make the playoffs, quit worrying about Division title. The most empty championship since winning the Grapefruit League title. They don't amount to anything more than a banner you can use in your PR description of the team. It's M-E-A-N-I-N-G-L-E-S-S....for any team that is in a division where you can clinch the wild card. 
     
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    [QUOTE]I guess Im the only Sox fan saying first place is important and I want to win the division...sad - Welcome to Theometrics I guess - the messiah and his disciples have stated that the wildcard is just fine with them...God forbid you question that logic
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]

    I'm with you in thinking 1st place is very important. But if we buy into the Francona BS, then the games in April aren't as important as the crunch time games.. Oops, did I say April, I meant May.....or was it June games that aren't as important.. Wait I think it's the games in July that don't count as much as the crunch time games....It's only mid August, fear not, when crunch time is here we'll see Francona turn on his managerial expertise..........won't we Undecided.
     
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    [QUOTE]Francoma's view is flawed.  You play to win the division.  Girardi believes this; watch how he manages and how they play.  I'm sure Belichick would let Brady rest because it's a team game.
    Posted by frankn[/QUOTE]

    "You play to win the division."  Really?  That would be your strategy?  Mine would be "You play to win the World Series".


     
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    right now, I'd be worrying a little more about playing to win the next game. If they continue sliding, they can slide right out of a playoff spot as well.
     
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    [QUOTE]right now, I'd be worrying a little more about playing to win the next game. If they continue sliding, they can slide right out of a playoff spot as well.
    Posted by dannycater[/QUOTE]

    You may be right. Another stretch like they had in April and Tampa just might catch up. I wonder if some of those early season loses were really not that important?
     
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    [QUOTE]Not very.  Home field advantage is generally advantageous, but the other factors combined are more important....obviously given the results of the past 10 years. Then extend the logic:  would you prefer to win the division via a 161st game, 18 inning dogfight, or cruise to a 5-games back wild card slot with your starters lined up and a few key players rested?
    Posted by SonicsMonksLyresVicars[/QUOTE]

    Great post. Glad that Cater thought it over and came around to agree with you.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How important is it to win the AL East? : Great post. Glad that Cater thought it over and came around to agree with you.
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    And get completely rolled in Texas, disaster waiting to happen. Don't worry Yankee fans will dance on Your grave.  With a smile!!!!!
     
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    It's about - winning! Not just the division but throughout the playoffs.  But once you start settling for 2nd that's a tough habit to break.  Enter the playoffs feeling invincible and good things will happen.  Namby pamby your way in and watch out.  Wild Cards have won, but have teams willing to settle for the wild card won?
     
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    I'd settle for a right-handed hitting OF who could go 2-for-4 with a double and 2 RBI.
     
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: How important is it to win the AL East? : Space in 2009 we limped into the playoffs and were swept....this year we are healthier but the other playoff teams are better...we need the series to open in Fenway - not in Texas
    Posted by georom4[/QUOTE]

    They did not limp into the 2009 PO's.
    The team was relatively healthy and the starting rotation was in tact.
    Just because you said they had virtually no chance of making the post season that year (air collision analogy) doesn't alter their well-being.


     
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    The Royals have this young sidewinder who struck out Cano, Texiera, and Swisher all in a row - it was beautiful to watch.

    His name:  Louis Coleman
     

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