How the Sox could upgrade at catcher

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    How the Sox could upgrade at catcher

    From ESPN.com:

    The Boston Red Sox are hoping that Jarrod Saltalamacchia comes around and becomes their No. 1 catcher. However, the 26-year-old is off to a slow start, hitting just .203 with an OPS of .522 and 19 strikeouts in only 69 at-bats. Although he is improving behind the plate in calling a game and throwing out runners, it's still unclear whether he is the long-term answer.

    As the Red Sox allow him to play through his slow start, they are blessed to have a veteran and a winner in Jason Varitek to help him out. However, the Red Sox can’t wait until the trade deadline to search for a short-term or even a long-term answer behind the plate if Salty doesn’t hit or improve enough to win with one of the better rotations in baseball. Therefore, the effort has to be going on now behind the scenes.

    Since general managers have only 29 trade partners, it’s important to stay in constant communication with each of them, constantly exploring options while communicating needs and depth. The best chance for the Red Sox making a deal for a catcher is to target teams that have multiple talented catchers. Therefore, teams such as the Reds, Yankees, Angels, Nationals, Blue Jays and Athletics are the most logical places for the Red Sox to start. Remember, trades can be done in one phone call, but most trades take weeks, months or even years to consummate. It never hurts to make trade proposals on a regular basis, even if you never end up making a deal with that club.

    To make a deal for a catcher, the first thing you need to do is to look at your rankings of catchers in the minor and major leagues. Each team will have a board listing their top 50 trade targets. GMs will have these players ranked in terms of how their top executives, scouts, player development personnel and other evaluators view them.

    All 30 clubs want to have a Joe Mauer or Buster Posey, but those aren’t players you’ll ever be able to trade for. Draft them if you want them; otherwise, lower your sights. Every club is always trying to improve their team at each position. In the case of the Red Sox, they have to figure out where Saltalamacchia fits on their rankings of catchers. For this example, let’s say they view him at No. 32. To improve the team, it would then make sense to talk to the teams that have catchers who are ranked higher, ideally trying to acquire a catcher in the top 20.

    Here would be an example of what the CATCHERS TRADE TARGETS list would look like. Note that it is a mix of major and minor leaguers. (This is not an exact order, just an example.)

    CATEGORY NO. 1: DON'T WASTE YOUR TIME, THEY'RE NOT TRADING
    1. Joe Mauer -- Minnesota Twins
    2. Buster Posey -- San Francisco Giants
    3. Brian McCann -- Atlanta Braves
    4. Yadier Molina -- St. Louis Cardinals
    5. Carlos Santana -- Cleveland Indians
    6. Matt Wieters -- Baltimore Orioles
    7. Kurt Suzuki -- Oakland Athletics
    8. Jesus Montero -- New York Yankees
    9. Carlos Ruiz -- Philadelphia Phillies
    10. Miguel Montero -- Arizona Diamondbacks
    11. Hank Conger -- Los Angeles Angels

    CATEGORY NO. 2: PLAN ON PAYING A HEFTY PRICE
    12. Travis d'Arnaud -- Toronto Blue Jays
    13. Derek Norris -- Washington Nationals
    14. Gary Sanchez -- New York Yankees
    15. Devin Mesoraco -- Cincinnati Reds
    16. Wilson Ramos -- Washington Nationals
    17. Alex Avila -- Detroit Tigers
    18. J.P. Arencibia -- Toronto Blue Jays
    19. Wilin Rosario -- Colorado Rockies
    20. Yasmani Grandal -- Cincinnati Reds
    21. Max Stassi -- Oakland Athletics
    22. Tony Sanchez -- Pittsburgh Pirates
    23. Jason Castro -- Houston Astros

    CATEGORY NO. 3: POSSIBLE UPGRADES
    24. Russell Martin -- New York Yankees
    25. Geovany Soto -- Chicago Cubs
    26. Austin Romine -- New York Yankees
    27. John Buck -- Florida Marlins
    28. Jeff Mathis -- Los Angeles Angels
    29. Ramon Hernandez -- Cincinnati Reds
    30. A.J. Pierzynski -- Chicago White Sox
    31. Nick Hundley -- San Diego Padres
    32. Yorvit Torrealba -- Texas Rangers
    33. Chris Snyder -- Pittsburgh Pirates
    34. Sebastian Valle -- Philadelphia Phillies
    35. Justin O’Connor -- Tampa Bay Rays
    36. Miguel Olivo -- Seattle Mariners
    37. Mike Napoli -- Texas Rangers
    38. Jonathan Lucroy -- Milwaukee Brewers
    39. John Jaso -- Tampa Bay Rays
    40. Kyle Skipworth -- Florida Marlins
    41. Lou Marson -- Cleveland Indians
    42. Jesus Flores -- Washington Nationals
    43. Josh Thole -- New York Mets
    44. Matt Treanor -- Kansas City Royals
    45. Carlos Perez -- Toronto Blue Jays
    46. Rod Barajas -- Los Angeles Dodgers
    47. Pudge Rodriguez -- Washington Nationals
    48. Chris Iannetta -- Colorado Rockies
    49. Bobby Wilson -- Los Angeles Angels
    50. Ryan Doumit -- Pittsburgh Pirates

    Now, let’s get specific with realistic possibilities the Red Sox could be discussing:

    Long-term solutions
    Reds -- Devin Mesoraco or Yasmani Grandal
    Blue Jays -- J.P. Arencibia or Travis d'Arnaud
    Angels -- Hank Conger or Jeff Mathis
    Nationals -- Wilson Ramos or Derek Norris
    Athletics -- Max Stassi
    Yankees -- Never mind, not happening

    Possible stop-gap catchers for this year
    These guys could be available if their teams fall out of the playoff race.

    White Sox -- A.J. Pierzynski
    Mariners -- Miguel Olivo
    Padres -- Nick Hundley
    Nationals -- Pudge Rodriguez
    Free agent -- Bengie Molina

    I hope that the combination of Saltalamacchia and Varitek will work out for the Red Sox. If not, it will be fun to watch Theo Epstein and the Red Sox try to wheel and deal in July.
     
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    How the Sox could upgrade at catcher?

    Start scouring little league fields and beer league soft ball teams in the fenway area.

     
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    And the longer the Sox can wait on Salty, the longer they have to adjust that list, and consider their own prospects: 

    Exposito is currently really struggling offensively at AAA.  Meanwhile, McKenry, who is supposed to be very solid defensively, is putting up monster numbers.  Since both split games behind the plate, their sample sizes are way too small to draw valid conclusions.  And at Portland, Federowicz got off to a great start offensively, and Lavarnway was struggling.  However, Lavarnway is slowly heating up, and Federowicz, unfortunately, seems to be trending in the opposite direction.  Since they too split time behind the dish, their numbers fluctuate greatly in a 3 or 4 game stretch. 
     
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    They could probably start by scouting the local little league and beer league softball teams in the greater fenway area.
     
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    I know he's in Salem, but Dan Butler is 24yrs old and is lighting it up with the bat and is a great game caller. Undrafted FA in 09..This guy should get a look at least.

    http://soxprospects.com/players/butler-dan.htm

     
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    I like Nick Hundley in SD as a possible stopgap. However, I don't want to see them give up on Salty yet.  He's showing signs of improvement.  But by June/July, it might be time for that upgrade.
     
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    Salty pulls in 3/4 million dollars.  FOR WHAT?
     
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    for the last time...THE RED SOX HAVE NO POTENTIAL MAJOR LEAGUE CATCHERS IN THE MINOR LEAGUE SYSTEM!!
    They made an offer on Ramos about 1 month ago using Wake as the bait and the Nats refused
     
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    In Response to Re: How the Sox could upgrade at catcher:
    [QUOTE]for the last time...THE RED SOX HAVE NO POTENTIAL MAJOR LEAGUE CATCHERS IN THE MINOR LEAGUE SYSTEM!! They made an offer on Ramos about 1 month ago using Wake as the bait and the Nats refused
    Posted by rkarp[/QUOTE]

    And Im sure the phone got slammed in Theos ear..Gonna have to offer more than wake for a top prospect C IMO
     
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    Re: How the Sox could upgrade at catcher

    Sox lost last night because Tek couldn't throw a guy out on a pitch out and then lets him steal third with a LH batter up.  Disgraceful!
     
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    In Response to Re: How the Sox could upgrade at catcher:
    [QUOTE]Sox lost last night because Tek couldn't throw a guy out on a pitch out and then lets him steal third with a LH batter up.  Disgraceful!

    Posted by splendidsplinterteddyballgame[/QUOTE]

    It was pretty pathetic.

     
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    according to harness we are all set at the CA position for years to come.
     
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    Re: How the Sox could upgrade at catcher

    instant answer: free agent Benji Molina!
     
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