Re: I still like Garza in our rotation
posted at 7/8/2013 9:25 AM EDT
In response to craze4sox's comment:
In response to BurritoT-'s comment:
In response to moonslav59's comment:
What's the difference, Burr? You're a broken record on Lee and others are on Garza.
Both are expendable to their teams. Both will cost prospects. Garza is a FA after this year: Lee is not, but Lee costs a fortune in contract and buyout clauses.
I seriously doubt we get either one this deadline.
Broken record on Lee? I have maybe made 5 posts on him this year... max. I was for selling players come July 15th but now our record dictates we are going to the play-offs, now is the time to make a real move.
Burrito, here is reality for fans like you who feel our team is fine and doesn't need another good SP like Garza, help in the pen or another big bat. Tonight is a perfect example of a PS game and what kind of pitching we will be facing/doing nothing offensively. Lackey is pitching the very best he can and is still losing if you feel Demp and Doub will have a shot your in dream land.
We or only as good as the other teams pitching will allow us to be in the PS. Right now, its great to be in first place but won't advance in the playoffs with our present pitching staff.
Anything can happen once you are in the playoffs, but I agree that we will not be the favorites to even win the AL Championship with the rotation as is. However, I do not think garza is a significant upgrade for the cost it will take to get him. Contrary to some Sox fans' beliefs, he will not be traded for "B prospects". Cliff Lee will also cost top prospects, but he will also restrict the amount of money we will have available this winter and beyond to fill the many gaps we will have.
It would be great if Lava/Vazquez/Ross could do well next year. It would be great if Carp/Nava/Middlebrooks could do well at 1B next year. It would be great if Bogaerts/Middlebrooks/Holt/Snyder could do well at 3B next year. It would be great if Iggy keeps doing very well at the plate as out FT SS next year. It would be great if Bradley Jr. does well in CF next year and Victorino stays healthy enough to play CF, if JBJ struggles. It would be great if Nava/Brentz could cover RF, if SV has to play CF. It would be great if Webster, DLR, Wilson, Ranaudo and others fill in well for any pitching staff gaps that may arise next year. All of these are not dreams, but certainly thinking all these scenarios will come true is a big dream. We will need to spend some this winter to fill some gaps and offer some options, in case some of these do not work out like we all hope they do. That's gonna cost more money than Lee's contract will allow us to spend.
If we can get a quality pen arm and 3Bman that can kill lefties, we will still have a good chance to win this year, but the cost to our future will be minimal. It's probably better to try and get that quality starter this winter. Coming from a man who is always for upgrading the rotation from near the top, it was not easy for me to say, "wait", but I think Garza (assuming no trade & extension) and Lee will cost more than they are worth, and unless another SP becomes available who is under team control for several years and does not cost what Lee's contract demands, I will probably be against trading for a SP this deadline.