I think we probably all agree......

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    I think we probably all agree......

    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.

     
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    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.

     i agree Exam, but imo a split is definitely the lesser evil and something the Sox could live with...of course, it's slam dunk that you'd rather have two..Wink


     
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    I'll go a step futher and say that every game is crucial.  In a 7 game series, every loss is 33% of the maximum you are allowed. 

     
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    Well, I agree, yes.  But only because its the World Series.  They are all crucial.

     
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    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.

     i agree Exam, but imo a split is definitely the lesser evil and something the Sox could live with...of course, it's slam dunk that you'd rather have two..Wink




    Agree jete, but this is a little different because of the PV/Buch questions. If not for that, I wouldnt make as big a deal over it. They may both pitch well and make it a non issue.

     
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    In response to TheExaminer's comment:

    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.

     i agree Exam, but imo a split is definitely the lesser evil and something the Sox could live with...of course, it's slam dunk that you'd rather have two..Wink




    Agree jete, but this is a little different because of the PV/Buch questions. If not for that, I wouldnt make as big a deal over it. They may both pitch well and make it a non issue.



    Here is why I don't consider it crucial in the way you are suggesting.  Yes, the Red Sox pitching gets signifcantly more inconsistent after Lackey (with buchholz shot).  But, that is the nature of most rotations besides the mighty Tigers.  Kelly and Lynn don't exactly have anyone quaking in their boots either.  Games three and four, whoever pitches, won;t be lop-sided matchups in favor of Cardinals.  They are pretty even.  

     
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    you will see farrell manage this like a game 7......

     
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    Yeah, 2-0 is better than 1-1.

    But 1-1 is not the end of the world.  They were in deeper trouble with 1-1 in the Tigers series with Verlander to pitch 3rd game, 7th if needed, and Scherzer for 6th.

    I don't think the Cards have two pitchers of the Verlander and Scherzer caliber to pitch 3 out of the last 5 games should it be 1-1.

    Beauty of a 7 game series.  Room for mistakes, and still make up for lost ground.  Reminds me of the 04 and 07 ALCS.

     
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    And a win tonight guarantees the series to at least come back to Fenway.

    We need to win G2 and G5....then we give ourselves 2 chances to win 1 game in Fenway with Lackey starting one of those........

     
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    you will see farrell manage this like a game 7......




    agreed


    you won't see dempster in a 20 run lead.....

     
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    And a win tonight guarantees the series to at least come back to Fenway.

    We need to win G2 and G5....then we give ourselves 2 chances to win 1 game in Fenway with Lackey starting one of those........



    I think the series ends in St Louis, like in 04.  Wink

     
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    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.

     i agree Exam, but imo a split is definitely the lesser evil and something the Sox could live with...of course, it's slam dunk that you'd rather have two..Wink




    Agree jete, but this is a little different because of the PV/Buch questions. If not for that, I wouldnt make as big a deal over it. They may both pitch well and make it a non issue.



    Here is why I don't consider it crucial in the way you are suggesting.  Yes, the Red Sox pitching gets signifcantly more inconsistent after Lackey (with buchholz shot).  But, that is the nature of most rotations besides the mighty Tigers.  Kelly and Lynn don't exactly have anyone quaking in their boots either.  Games three and four, whoever pitches, won;t be lop-sided matchups in favor of Cardinals.  They are pretty even.  



    Yeah, I dont disagree with that Space. Theres a dropoff in their rotation too. I think it will all work out, but lets win gm 2 just to be safe!

     
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    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.

     i agree Exam, but imo a split is definitely the lesser evil and something the Sox could live with...of course, it's slam dunk that you'd rather have two..Wink




    Agree jete, but this is a little different because of the PV/Buch questions. If not for that, I wouldnt make as big a deal over it. They may both pitch well and make it a non issue.



    Here is why I don't consider it crucial in the way you are suggesting.  Yes, the Red Sox pitching gets signifcantly more inconsistent after Lackey (with buchholz shot).  But, that is the nature of most rotations besides the mighty Tigers.  Kelly and Lynn don't exactly have anyone quaking in their boots either.  Games three and four, whoever pitches, won;t be lop-sided matchups in favor of Cardinals.  They are pretty even.  



    Yeah, I dont disagree with that Space. Theres a dropoff in their rotation too. I think it will all work out, but lets win gm 2 just to be safe!



    That I think we can probably all agree on  Cool

     
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    With the news all over LEster accusing for cheating is now going to movtivate the Red Sox team even more tonite!!  Especially the Cardinals may be without their best hitter, Beltran!!

     

     

     
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    With the news all over LEster accusing for cheating is now going to movtivate the Red Sox team even more tonite!!  Especially the Cardinals may be without their best hitter, Beltran!!

     

     



    Right. Like Buchholz was cheating in Toronto this summer. This is just as silly, and youre right, will tend to motivate Boston even more. Bring it.

     
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    ....that tonight's game is crucial. With the inconsistency--so far--of Peavy, and the questions about Buchholz, I would feel a bit edgy going to St. Louis tied 1-1. The Sox need to school this Wacha kid in the ways of the Fens, and lock this thing down. I think tonight's game will be closer, but I still feel strongly that the Sox can and will win. If not, its not beyond the realm of possibility that the Cardinals could reel off three in a row. Im not saying that will happen, but its possible. Head it off with a win at home, and keep the pressure on.




    No, Ex, I don't agree.  Every game is crucial, including game 1.  The Sox went to Detroit at 1-1 and facing Verlander in game 3.  They got blitzed in game 1 and darn near in game 2. 

    So right now, as far as I am concerned, the Sox are in tall cotton.  They can still win tonight, and Verlander ain't pitching in game 3.

     
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    With the news all over LEster accusing for cheating is now going to movtivate the Red Sox team even more tonite!!  Especially the Cardinals may be without their best hitter, Beltran!!

     

     



    Right. Like Buchholz was cheating in Toronto this summer. This is just as silly, and youre right, will tend to motivate Boston even more. Bring it.


    Nothing unites and motivates a group of people faster than having a common enemy.   The St. Louis press has now accused one of their (The Sox) own of being a cheater, and I don't expect the other 24 members of our team are going to take that lightly. 

    I now look for a renewed focus and motivation from this team.  This thing may be over in four.... now. 

     
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    There is no such thing as a playoff game that is not crucial.

    Just ask anyone who remembers the 2004 ALCS.

    Even if you are up 3-0 in the series , failure to put a team away can be a mistake.

     
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    There is no such thing as a playoff game that is not crucial.

    Just ask anyone who remembers the 2004 ALCS.

    Even if you are up 3-0 in the series , failure to put a team away can be a mistake.




    Yup - just ask Mike Mussina, Kenny Lofton, and Tom Gordon!!!!!!!

     
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    At this point the most important game of the season is the next one...so yes the most important game is tonight

     
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    What to reasonable expect tonight ( of course it is a big game):

     

    1 Fenway momentum

    2 17-18 outs from Lackey and team runs support, plus 4 outs from Koji if game is close

    3  Reality  check for young Walla Walla

    4  lefties pounding the monster. The Notion that Papi s slump might be over

    5 a more challenging Cards team, not a cakewalk

    6 in short series "anything goes"

    7 the magnitude of this game is inmense, not only because of Buck, but mainly, 3 next games without DH

     
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    What to reasonable expect tonight ( of course it is a big game):

     

    1 Fenway momentum

    2 17-18 outs from Lackey and team runs support, plus 4 outs from Koji if game is close

    3  Reality  check for young Walla Walla

    4  lefties pounding the monster. The Notion that Papi s slump might be over

    5 a more challenging Cards team, not a cakewalk

    6 in short series "anything goes"

    7 the magnitude of this game is inmense, not only because of Buck, but mainly, 3 next games without DH




    I think it comes down to having a good game plan that is flexible and then staying the course of that plan

     
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    I think, at this point, it is more like every pitch is important.  You have to treat every AB as if this is this might be your last chance at a WS ring.

     
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    I think, at this point, it is more like every pitch is important.  You have to treat every AB as if this is this might be your last chance at a WS ring.



    Which seems to me how the Sox have treated every at-bat since April,

     
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