If Ortiz Doesn't Reach 100 RBIs, It's Because ...

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    If Ortiz Doesn't Reach 100 RBIs, It's Because ...

    David Ortiz has 94 RBIs with 11 games to play, so there's a good chance he'll reach 100 RBIs. If he doesn't, here's why ... intentional walks.

    Ortiz is batting .307 w/RISP with 66 RBIs and has walked 38 times in 180 PA. By comparison, Mike Napoli is batting .258 with 71 RBIs and has walked 29 times in 190 PA w/RISP. However ...

    Ortiz has been intentionally walked 25 times.

    Napoli has been intentionally walked five times.

    Ortiz leads the league with 25 intentional walks. Cabrera is second with 18.

     
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    Re: If Ortiz Doesn't Reach 100 RBIs, It's Because ...

    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked



    Those games missed certainly is a factor. But he also finished with 15 RBIs in April, just two off a 100-RBI pace when you figure you need 17 RBIs a month to reach 100 RBIs (17 for four, 16 for two) so he was only an RBI or two off the pace when the month ended.

    Sure, considering how hot he was early, he might have had more RBIs had he played those games, but once the month ended and he was close to a 100-RBI pace, the games he missed were less of an issue.

    The bigger point is how being intentionally walked has affected his RBI totals, even if he does reach 100.

     
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    Definitely the IBB's.  I said that before I read your OP. 

     
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    Rbi's are a useless statistic for analyzing a given hitters worth 

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

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    Duh ...  why was that?

     

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

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    Duh ...  why was that?

     



    did I say unexplainable......no

    does something have 2 B unexplainable 2 B amazing

    I think not

    nothing wrong with disagreeing but why the tude

    payback ?

     
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    In response to maxbialystock's comment:

    Definitely the IBB's.  I said that before I read your OP. 



    Yeah, I knew he had a bunch. Didn't know how much, which is why I looked it up. The amazing stat is the difference between him and Napoli.

    I could start a thread that says, the reason Napoli has (or will have) 90-plus RBIs is because Ortiz has been intentionally walked 25 times in front of him w/RISP.

     
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    Rbi's are a useless statistic for analyzing a given hitters worth 



    Agreed. So are hits, OBP, OPS, BA, BB, and making contact in general.

     
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    Re: If Ortiz Doesn't Reach 100 RBIs, It's Because ...

     Forgot to mention home runs, runs, extra base hits, stolen bases, and basically any statistic besides offensive W.A.R. Those old methods have been exceeded by the revolution of Sabermetrics, which can be caluclated by the unemotional computer.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

    ...I'm kidding, just so you all know.

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

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    Duh ...  why was that?

     



    Easy answer Mantle with 54 HRs was behind him

     
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    did I say unexplainable......no

    does something have 2 B unexplainable 2 B amazing

    I think not

    nothing wrong with disagreeing but why the tude

    payback ?



    Zac, I thought you were making a joke and I was playing along. Guess I misread you, but in any event I wasn't showing any "tude."

    Out of curiousity, what did you mean by "payback?"

     

     

     
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    I'm  sorry LD

    I'm the one who misread everything

    my big time bad

    cheers

     
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    I'm  sorry LD

    I'm the one who misread everything

    my big time bad

    cheers



    We're cool.

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked




    Always made me wonder what kind of year Mantle would have had if their spots in the batting order were reversed.  Mantle should have won MVP that year or at least lost out to Norm Cash instead of Maris.

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

     




    Always made me wonder what kind of year Mantle would have had if their spots in the batting order were reversed.  Mantle should have won MVP that year or at least lost out to Norm Cash instead of Maris.

     

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    B4 my time

    but I think, according to the movie 61,

    mantle probably would have won both mvp & HR  tittle  if not for a late season injury

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

     

     




    Always made me wonder what kind of year Mantle would have had if their spots in the batting order were reversed.  Mantle should have won MVP that year or at least lost out to Norm Cash instead of Maris.

     

     

     

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    B4 my time

     

    but I think, according to the movie 61,

    mantle probably would have won both mvp & HR  tittle  if not for a late season injury

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    yo zac ol friend. I was at the tender age of 13 back in 61 and saw both mantle and marris in their prime. tell ya man, that ol farmboy had such a swing. my dad had an autographed black and white picture of mick,roger and teddy ballgame taken back in 1961.

     
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    Re: If Ortiz Doesn't Reach 100 RBIs, It's Because ...

    maris' 61 reminds me of anderson's 50 in 96.  coincidence?  i think not.....

     
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    B4 my time

    but I think, according to the movie 61,

    mantle probably would have won both mvp & HR  tittle  if not for a late season injury


    Really a well-done movie, I thought. Also, "Roger Maris: Baseball's Reluctant Hero" is a good read.

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

     



    Those games missed certainly is a factor. But he also finished with 15 RBIs in April, just two off a 100-RBI pace when you figure you need 17 RBIs a month to reach 100 RBIs (17 for four, 16 for two) so he was only an RBI or two off the pace when the month ended.

     

    Sure, considering how hot he was early, he might have had more RBIs had he played those games, but once the month ended and he was close to a 100-RBI pace, the games he missed were less of an issue.

    The bigger point is how being intentionally walked has affected his RBI totals, even if he does reach 100.

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    Add to that the fact that he lost several base hits to that ridiculous full shift teams employed against him.

     
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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked

     

     



    Those games missed certainly is a factor. But he also finished with 15 RBIs in April, just two off a 100-RBI pace when you figure you need 17 RBIs a month to reach 100 RBIs (17 for four, 16 for two) so he was only an RBI or two off the pace when the month ended.

     

     

    Sure, considering how hot he was early, he might have had more RBIs had he played those games, but once the month ended and he was close to a 100-RBI pace, the games he missed were less of an issue.

    The bigger point is how being intentionally walked has affected his RBI totals, even if he does reach 100.

     

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    Add to that the fact that he lost several base hits to that ridiculous full shift teams employed against him.

     

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    Yeah, but I don't think that cost him RBIs. When the Sox have runners in scoring position, teams don't shift. They might shift if if there's a runner on first, but that runner isn't going to score from first on a ground ball single that might have gone through w/o the shift.

     

     
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    Re: If Ortiz Doesn't Reach 100 RBIs, It's Because ...

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    plus the fact he missed something like the first 3 weeks of the season

    one of the most amazing stats  to me is

    the yr maris hit 61 he was never int walked



    I think we can safely assume Msris never received an IBB because he was hitting in front of Mantle that year...

     
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