If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

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    If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Farrell leaves Salty in. He can't even manage a throw to third on a double steal and then he botches Gomes throw, which leads to Breslow's throwing error.

    Have we got a manager here or what?

    Game 3, Farrell sends Salty behind the plate again. Hello? Anybody home? The treadmill is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    Salty blows in the ninth with a bonehead play, but that's not the real problem. The real problem was the bonehead/moronic/idiotic/duma_s/ decision to have him there in the ninth inning in the first place. Ross should be behind the plate. End of story.

    Don't pinch hit for Drew with runners on 1st and third and no outs and then pinch hit for him with no one on base?

    Let Workman hit and pitch the ninth instead of sending in Uehara to start the inning?

    Don't intentionally walk the batter to load the bases to get the double play to save the game?

    Farrell doesn't have a clue. He's managing like a chicken with its head cut off.

    If the Red Sox win this series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Francoma, Valentine and now this. Just one fry short of a Happy Meal. Man, my past lives must have been pretty horrible to deserve this.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember.

    There was practically no way he could lose with the loaded roster he had, but he still managed to almost blow it.

     

     

     

     
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    All 20-20 hindsight.  Salty was the regular catcher for the Sox during a 97 games won season.  Blaming Farrell for playing him fails that basic test.  Now, maybe.  But not in game 2.  Besides, the egregious error was by Breslow.  And don't forget that, had Breslow not thrown to 3B, the next batter did in fact hit a single which would have brought in the go ahead run anyway. 

    In 2007 the Sox had a good roster, agreed, but so did the Indians, which is why they led the ALCS 3 games to 1 before the Sox came back. 

    Your basic delusion is in thinking good managers should never lose a game.  So, as soon as one is lost, you decide after the fact which moves should have been made. 

     
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    All 20-20 hindsight.  Salty was the regular catcher for the Sox during a 97 games won season.  Blaming Farrell for playing him fails that basic test.  Now, maybe.  But not in game 2.  Besides, the egregious error was by Breslow.  And don't forget that, had Breslow not thrown to 3B, the next batter did in fact hit a single which would have brought in the go ahead run anyway. 

    In 2007 the Sox had a good roster, agreed, but so did the Indians, which is why they led the ALCS 3 games to 1 before the Sox came back. 

    Your basic delusion is in thinking good managers should never lose a game.  So, as soon as one is lost, you decide after the fact which moves should have been made. 

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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    The Sox would have been better off with Bobby Valentine again this year,right?

     
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    All 20-20 hindsight? Sorry, but all 20-20 wrong. I was watching the game with my son and called the moves before they happened. That's what Farrell's SUPPOSED to do. And if Salty catches that ''super difficult'' one-hop throw by Gomes, Breslow never throws that ball away.  Salty has never blown anyone away with his defensive skills and should never have been there in the first place. If you're bent on starting him, fine. But get him out of there when the situation calls for top defense. Check out Molina and see for yourself how important it is to have your best defensive catcher out there when the game's on the line.

     
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    The Sox would have been better off with Bobby Valentine again this year,right?

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    Read ALL of my original post. You'll see waht I think of BV. But none of that changes the lousy decisions made in games 2 +3.

     
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    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Farrell leaves Salty in. He can't even manage a throw to third on a double steal and then he botches Gomes throw, which leads to Breslow's throwing error.

    Have we got a manager here or what?

    Game 3, Farrell sends Salty behind the plate again. Hello? Anybody home? The treadmill is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    Salty blows in the ninth with a bonehead play, but that's not the real problem. The real problem was the bonehead/moronic/idiotic/duma_s/ decision to have him there in the ninth inning in the first place. Ross should be behind the plate. End of story.

    Don't pinch hit for Drew with runners on 1st and third and no outs and then pinch hit for him with no one on base?

    Let Workman hit and pitch the ninth instead of sending in Uehara to start the inning?

    Don't intentionally walk the batter to load the bases to get the double play to save the game?

    Farrell doesn't have a clue. He's managing like a chicken with its head cut off.

    If the Red Sox win this series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Francoma, Valentine and now this. Just one fry short of a Happy Meal. Man, my past lives must have been pretty horrible to deserve this.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember.

    There was practically no way he could lose with the loaded roster he had, but he still managed to almost blow it.

     

    What the heck is your problem????  You better check your diapers..... Dam !!!

     

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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

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    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Farrell leaves Salty in. He can't even manage a throw to third on a double steal and then he botches Gomes throw, which leads to Breslow's throwing error.

    Have we got a manager here or what?

    Game 3, Farrell sends Salty behind the plate again. Hello? Anybody home? The treadmill is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    Salty blows in the ninth with a bonehead play, but that's not the real problem. The real problem was the bonehead/moronic/idiotic/duma_s/ decision to have him there in the ninth inning in the first place. Ross should be behind the plate. End of story.

    Don't pinch hit for Drew with runners on 1st and third and no outs and then pinch hit for him with no one on base?

    Let Workman hit and pitch the ninth instead of sending in Uehara to start the inning?

    Don't intentionally walk the batter to load the bases to get the double play to save the game?

    Farrell doesn't have a clue. He's managing like a chicken with its head cut off.

    If the Red Sox win this series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Francoma, Valentine and now this. Just one fry short of a Happy Meal. Man, my past lives must have been pretty horrible to deserve this.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember.

    There was practically no way he could lose with the loaded roster he had, but he still managed to almost blow it.

     

    What the heck is your problem????  You better check your diapers..... Dam !!!

     

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    Yeah, if I leave them on as long as Farrell keeps Salty in the lineup, then I've definitely got a problem. 

    By the way, you'd better check your spelling. You managed to make 2 spelling mistakes in 12 words. Ever heard of school???????

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

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    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Farrell leaves Salty in. He can't even manage a throw to third on a double steal and then he botches Gomes throw, which leads to Breslow's throwing error.

    Have we got a manager here or what?

    Game 3, Farrell sends Salty behind the plate again. Hello? Anybody home? The treadmill is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    Salty blows in the ninth with a bonehead play, but that's not the real problem. The real problem was the bonehead/moronic/idiotic/duma_s/ decision to have him there in the ninth inning in the first place. Ross should be behind the plate. End of story.

    Don't pinch hit for Drew with runners on 1st and third and no outs and then pinch hit for him with no one on base?

    Let Workman hit and pitch the ninth instead of sending in Uehara to start the inning?

    Don't intentionally walk the batter to load the bases to get the double play to save the game?

    Farrell doesn't have a clue. He's managing like a chicken with its head cut off.

    If the Red Sox win this series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Francoma, Valentine and now this. Just one fry short of a Happy Meal. Man, my past lives must have been pretty horrible to deserve this.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember.

    There was practically no way he could lose with the loaded roster he had, but he still managed to almost blow it.

     

     

     

    [/QUOTE]Can't argue with you .......  1-2 is a tough place to be with 4 games left & the next 2 on the road.......  Not to mention, on who is going to show up tonight to pitch ???  A starting pitcher with a "bad wing" is no place for a "must win in game 4 on the road" !!!


     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

     well, at least Francona  will be in good company Wink...i'd be glad to be winning one in spite of Girardi right now :-)

     
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     well, at least Francona  will be in good company Wink...i'd be glad to be winning one in spite of Girardi right now :-)

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    Thanks for writing. I've always enjoyed reading your posts. Just like Jeter, you're a class act!

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

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    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember. 

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    Total BS.  Ellsbury had NOTHING to do with us coming back to win the ALCS.  He did well in the World Series but he did NOTHING in the ALCS.  Go look it up ace.

    YOUR faulty and cherry-picking memory makes your whole diatribe about Francona a total FAILURE. 

     

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Part of the problem with the analysis is that he brought Breslow in the game, and Breslow blew it.

    When someone comes in and allows two SBs, a walk, a single and a throwing error, it's tough to come to the conclusion that we would've won had we allowed him to face more hitters.

    I don't disagree with bringing him in to face Jay.  I'd have definitely made the switch, but my guess is that Breslow still would've blown it.

    On Salty, I don't remember anyone bringing in their only backup catcher to try to keep someone with 5 career SBs from stealing 3rd.

     
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     well, at least Francona  will be in good company Wink...i'd be glad to be winning one in spite of Girardi right now :-)

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    Thanks for writing. I've always enjoyed reading your posts. Just like Jeter, you're a class act!

    [/QUOTE]thanks den, but should the Sox win the WS(hex, hex Tongue Out) i have no doubt Farrel will be happy to pass the props off to the players...

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Farrell made some questionable calls in last night's game.  All managers do.  Matheny has made some questionable calls this series, yet his team is up 2-1.

    IMO, the Sox would not even be playing in the WS if not partly for Farrell.

     

     
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    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Part of the problem with the analysis is that he brought Breslow in the game, and Breslow blew it.

    When someone comes in and allows two SBs, a walk, a single and a throwing error, it's tough to come to the conclusion that we would've won had we allowed him to face more hitters.

    I don't disagree with bringing him in to face Jay.  I'd have definitely made the switch, but my guess is that Breslow still would've blown it.

    On Salty, I don't remember anyone bringing in their only backup catcher to try to keep someone with 5 career SBs from stealing 3rd.

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    I just think it would have made a lot more sense bringing Breslow in with one man on than with 2. 

    Wouldn't it make sense to sub your catcher in a tight spot? They do it with infielders and outfielders to bring in the better defensive player. What's so different with catchers? Plus, they could warm them up in the bullpen if they wanted to.

    Nice talking to you, Joe. I always enjoy reading your posts.

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    In response to den666's comment:
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    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Farrell leaves Salty in. He can't even manage a throw to third on a double steal and then he botches Gomes throw, which leads to Breslow's throwing error.

    Have we got a manager here or what?

    Game 3, Farrell sends Salty behind the plate again. Hello? Anybody home? The treadmill is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    Salty blows in the ninth with a bonehead play, but that's not the real problem. The real problem was the bonehead/moronic/idiotic/duma_s/ decision to have him there in the ninth inning in the first place. Ross should be behind the plate. End of story.

    Don't pinch hit for Drew with runners on 1st and third and no outs and then pinch hit for him with no one on base?

    Let Workman hit and pitch the ninth instead of sending in Uehara to start the inning?

    Don't intentionally walk the batter to load the bases to get the double play to save the game?

    Farrell doesn't have a clue. He's managing like a chicken with its head cut off.

    If the Red Sox win this series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Francoma, Valentine and now this. Just one fry short of a Happy Meal. Man, my past lives must have been pretty horrible to deserve this.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember.

    There was practically no way he could lose with the loaded roster he had, but he still managed to almost blow it.

     

     

     

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    Farrell has not had a very good WS at all. Starting Gomes instead of Nava is just one mistake he has made. Not removing pitchers in time and bringing in the wrong guy is another. Allowing Workman to bat yesterday is another. Farrell was good during he regular season, overall, but if we manage to win this, he will have very little to do with it.

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

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    Farrell made some questionable calls in last night's game.  All managers do.  Matheny has made some questionable calls this series, yet his team is up 2-1.

    IMO, the Sox would not even be playing in the WS if not partly for Farrell.

     

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    I agree with you 100% that we probably wouldn't be here if not for Farrell. It's just that we don't get to go the World Series very often. So when we do and we lose, we hope it'll be because the opposing team outplayed us, not because a bunch of questionable calls killed us. 

     
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    Game 2 at Fenway, 6th inning. Papi has just hit what should have been the game-winning homerun. Cards have 9 outs left. You have to protect your lead.

    Here's what you have to do.

    First, Lackey's pitch count in in the nineties. Very short lease. One baserunner and he's out. If one baserunner gets on, bring in Breslow right away. He's a lefty and can hold a baserunner close so he won't try to steal. If two baserunners get on, his being a lefty isn't as much of a foactor in holding a runner close to second.

    Second, know Salty's track record for throwing out baserunners and you have one of the best catchers for throwing baserunners out in David Ross. You have to get him in the game immediately. 

    Here's what happens.

    Farrell leaves Lackey in one batter too long. 2 men on, nobody out. A lot tougher job for reliever.

    Farrell leaves Salty in. He can't even manage a throw to third on a double steal and then he botches Gomes throw, which leads to Breslow's throwing error.

    Have we got a manager here or what?

    Game 3, Farrell sends Salty behind the plate again. Hello? Anybody home? The treadmill is spinning, but the hamster's dead.

    Salty blows in the ninth with a bonehead play, but that's not the real problem. The real problem was the bonehead/moronic/idiotic/duma_s/ decision to have him there in the ninth inning in the first place. Ross should be behind the plate. End of story.

    Don't pinch hit for Drew with runners on 1st and third and no outs and then pinch hit for him with no one on base?

    Let Workman hit and pitch the ninth instead of sending in Uehara to start the inning?

    Don't intentionally walk the batter to load the bases to get the double play to save the game?

    Farrell doesn't have a clue. He's managing like a chicken with its head cut off.

    If the Red Sox win this series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    Francoma, Valentine and now this. Just one fry short of a Happy Meal. Man, my past lives must have been pretty horrible to deserve this.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember.

    There was practically no way he could lose with the loaded roster he had, but he still managed to almost blow it.

     

     

     

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    Farrell has not had a very good WS at all. Starting Gomes instead of Nava is just one mistake he has made. Not removing pitchers in time and bringing in the wrong guy is another. Allowing Workman to bat yesterday is another. Farrell was good during he regular season, overall, but if we manage to win this, he will have very little to do with it.

    [/QUOTE] hey Pumps!..are you home?...how was the trip??...


     
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    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. He was a great clubhouse guy, but he was horrible with his pitchers, pulling them too soon or leaving them in too long. And while we're on the subject of bonehead moves, remember how good Jacoby Ellsbury was in that postseason? Can't you also remember how Francona refused to play him until the series against Cleveland was nearly lost (and while almost all of New England (and parts of Canada) was tearing its collective hair out and calling for his head?) Or perhaps you choose not to remember. 

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    Total BS.  Ellsbury had NOTHING to do with us coming back to win the ALCS.  He did well in the World Series but he did NOTHING in the ALCS.  Go look it up ace.

    YOUR faulty and cherry-picking memory makes your whole diatribe about Francona a total FAILURE. 

     

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    Ellsbury in ALCS vs Cleveland : 8 at bats, 2 hits + 3 runs scored.  Go look it up ace. 

     
  22. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    I just think it would have made a lot more sense bringing Breslow in with one man on than with 2. 

    Wouldn't it make sense to sub your catcher in a tight spot? They do it with infielders and outfielders to bring in the better defensive player. What's so different with catchers? Plus, they could warm them up in the bullpen if they wanted to.

    Nice talking to you, Joe. I always enjoy reading your posts.

    I agree on bringing him in, I just disagree on whether or not it would've made a difference.

    Here's the thing I find perplexing, and Farrell is usually on top of these things.

    Lackey walks the first guy.  Walking a leadoff hitter, when you have thrown that many pitches, is a sign of tiredness to me.  So you now have Jay coming up, so why not go for the L/L matchup?  Lackey only has about one batter left in him, so it isn't like you're saving bullets for later.

    The only thing I can think of is that maybe he expected Matheny to go to Robinson if we went to Breslow.  Otherwise, I definitely bring Breslow for Jay.

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    I see bad coaching, hitting, fielding and Dead People.

     
  24. You have chosen to ignore posts from Joebreidey. Show Joebreidey's posts

    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    P.S. To all the Francona worshippers out there, sorry to burst your bubble, but the Sox won the 2007 World Series DESPITE him. 

    In the last 10 years, we've had 5 ALCS appearances, and 3 WS appearances, and 2 WSC, nad we've done this despite both Farrell and Tito?  So with a better manager, do we make the ALCS all 10 years?

    And I assume that CL made the playoffs thise year despite Tito, ignoring that they went from 68 wins to 92 wins?  You have ex-players in pre-games that think Tito walks on water.

     
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    Re: If Sox win the World Series it will be DESPITE Farrell.

    In response to den666's comment:
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    Total BS.  Ellsbury had NOTHING to do with us coming back to win the ALCS.  He did well in the World Series but he did NOTHING in the ALCS.  Go look it up ace.

    YOUR faulty and cherry-picking memory makes your whole diatribe about Francona a total FAILURE. 

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    Ellsbury in ALCS vs Cleveland : 8 at bats, 2 hits + 3 runs scored.  Go look it up ace. 

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    Right, and we won the games 12-2 and 11-2.

    The key game was Game 5, which Ellsbury DIDN"T PLAY IN.

    Stop it with the revisionist BS.  Francona did fine in the 2007 postseason.

     

     
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