In response to moonslav59's comment:
We have two prospects who are 3B, one of which will most likely be our future 3B-Middlebrooks and Cecchini. We do not need another 3B prospect.
Middlebrooks may nver make it back to a FT role.
Cecchini may never make it.
We need a 1Bman after 2013.
We need a DH after 2014.
Middlebrooks, Cecchini and Bogaerts, if they make it to the bigs and do well, can be moved the 1B.
There is a good chance that either WMB or Cecchini will be our eventual 3B. I would bet on that before I would bet that Iggy would hit well enough to be our full time SS despite his defensive prowess.
I agree. When we have a GM who does not value SS defense as much as offense, it's a pretty good bet Cecchini, Middlebrooks or someone else would be playing 3B with Boggy at SS rather than have Iggy as our longterm SS. I am not arguing about what Ben thinks. We agree. Why would I bet?
Yes, after 2014 we will need a new DH. I would propose that this position be rotated among players who need an occasional day off. There is no easy solution to replacing Papi's production-and it has nothing to do with this trade.
We needed pitching, and had to give someone of value up to obtain it. Iglesias was traded when his value was high and we got an experienced decent SP back in return-and that allows Workman to bolster the pen.
We do not know if Iggy's value was "high" or not. It may have been higher before last year, it may be higher in years to come, but it was certainly higher than it was after 2012.
Nope. Its all guesswork. My guess is that we sold high on Iggy.
You think other GMs don't know about BAbip? Detroit knew what they were getting. They did not trade for Iggy based on this year's offensive stats. That's not a guess.
The stock being highest or not is.
Iggy had a WAR during his stay here of 1.8. If you believe in WAR, thats the level of a reserve player which, IMO, is what Iggy will turn out to be. I wish him the best of luck but this was a decent and reasonable trade for us.
Iggy played about half a season. If you double 1.8 to give him a full season, he'd have a WAR or 3.6. That would have made him the 7th best SS in MLB last year and 9th in 2011. Am I missing your point, or did you misread WAR in the context of the SS position and sample size?
Maybe I am misunderstanding WAR. I think it means that right now he has the value of a replacement player and that unless his performance improves he will remain at or below 1.8, his current level. He has, in fact, already started to return to earth. In the last month here he was at .205/.464. That simply is not good enough. He is probably better than that, but he will never be an offensive force IMO. I prefer a SS who can both play defense and who is not an automatic out.
Yes, you are misunderstanding War in more ways than one.
WAR accumulates the more games you play. There really shoud be a WAR per 150 games stat as well.
Even if WAR did not accumulate, a 1.8 WAR would be the 10th best in MLb this year. Hardly "replacement value".