Re: Iglesias--what is Jim Leyland thinking?
posted at 10/10/2013 1:30 PM EDT
In response to S5's comment:
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to BurritoT-'s comment:
Why do posters keep trying ot justify this trade, especially when those who were against it stopped talking about it a month ago?
There were plenty of people on both sides continuing this conversation since it happened.
Truth is, the trade worked for all 3 teams. Boston got the starter it needed to get to the post season and get through round 1.
Detroit got someone that could play solid defense at a primary position.
CWS got a top OF prospect that showed he can compete at this level, ableit in a SSS this year.
We still have a solid all around veteran SS for this year, as well as a top SS prospect in all baseball ready to take over in 2014 and another slick fielding SS at AA. The future hasnt been compromised one bit, all while making the team better right now. How is this NOT a win for us and the other teams?
This is a win for all teams this year, but the future could very well be another story. We have three prospects (Bogarts, Marrerro and Chiccini) who are exactly that, prospects, and we're hoping and praying that they'll pan out. The trade gave up a player who's now proving he's good enough to play SS in the PS. Was that a smart thing to do for the future?
The ONLY way this trade has not compromised the future one bit is IF one of those guys turns out to be as good as Iggy. Otherwise we'll have to pay someone more to play SS than we'd have paid Iggy - leaving fewer $$ for someone else - or we're going to have someone who's not as good as Iggy at SS. That's the future. Which has been my problem with the trade all along.
And IF (that's capital letters IF) paying Drew to play SS next year is what keeps us from signing Ellsbury - a very real possibility, btw - this well have a TREMENDOUS impact on the team.
...And Detroit is hoping Iggys hitting pans out. Remember, Iggy hasnt played a full year in MLB yet. He too is basically "unproven" offensively, unless you actually believe he will be a 280-300 GB hitter. Hes been trending downward basically since July and has done absolutely nothing in the ALDS.
If you and others who dont like the trade (of which I respect your opinions) cant even see the talent that Xander has and feel comfortable with him going forward, I dont know what to tell you. Xander will be the better all around player that Iggy is. Heck, Marrero is in that defensive conversation. Hes a stud with the glove, not as much with the bat though. Like Iggy. Should be in AAA sometime in 2014. We won in 04 and 07 with mercinaries at SS. This year too so far. Its not as big a deal as some make it out to be if were to have to go down that road again. But like I said, if you cant see the talent we have right now and going forward, Theres no use talking anymore about this.
Stephen Drews possible resign will not be cause for Ellsbury not being signed. Thats a bit of a stretch. He will either be figured in the plans or not. I think they will go with Bogey next year and have a good back up.
My words werent meant to start an Iggy battle. Its just so obvious to me how well this has worked out for all teams. Sorry, no, IMHO it wont impact us going forward. With 2 SS in the system, 1 being a top #3 prospect in all baseball, I feel very comforable going forward.