Re: IS FARRELL A FRANCONA CLONE?
posted at 4/11/2013 2:18 PM EDT
In response to pumpsie-green's comment:
In response to royf19's comment:
In response to mef429's comment:
i hope so. Francona is undefeated in the WS with 2 rings.
I was thinking the same thing.
Francona was a dullard who happened upon a great situation in Boston. When he had a normal amount of talent in Philly his W-L record stunk. He made the same stupid mistakes over and over again, overprotected his players through his "good old boy network" and showed all the tactical creativity of drywall. So far Farrell has at least shown that he has something besides a vacumn between his ears.
Normal amount of talent? Are you serious. The rest of your post has no credibility.
Can you even name the players on those teams. The Phillies did not have "normal amount of talent."
The pitching staff his last year was garbage. Their relievers had ERAs of 5.86 (closer), 4.34, 4.40, 6.55, 4.13. Even taking into consideration that ERAs don't have a lot of value for reliever, that's horrible.
The starters -- Randy Wolf (only double-digit winner but a 4.36 ERA), Robert Person, Schilling (just 16 starts), Andy Ashby, Bruce Chen, Paul Byrd (6.51 ERA).
And there were maybe four decent guys in the lineup -- Rolen and Bobby Abreua the best. The other two catcher Mike Liebethal just 108 games, however, and maybe Pat Burrell. If those last two are your third- and fourth-best players in the lineup, you have issues.
No bench and the rest was garbage.
Their lineup in 1999 was better and they won 77 games. The pitching -- GARBAGE. Here are the ERAs of the starters -- 4.60, 3.54 (Schilling), 5.63, 4.27, 5.55 and 5.12. And again -- no bullpen. Wayne Gomes was the closer. WAYNE FREAKIN' GOMES. The team's ERA was 4.92, whick scked even for the steroid era (fourth from the bottom).
That the 1999 team won 77 games with that pitching staff was actually a great accomplishment.
So calling his Phillies' teams as normal amount of talent negates anything you say afterward. You could say the sky is blue and it would be meaningless.