Is losing Gonzalez really that big of a deal?

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    In Response to Re: Is losing Gonzalez really that big of a deal? : Hamilton's going where the money is, space. He's already said he won't give Texas a hometown discount. I think in the end, he'll stay where he is, but I thought the same about Pujols
    Posted by J-BAY


    We get force fed Rangers Baseball daily down here and believe me The Red Sox don’t want any part of Josh Hamilton. He’s a huge headache just waiting to happen. He’s a recovering substance abuser Drugs/Alcohol and he has a tendency to falling off the wagon when things aren’t going his way.

    It’s been reported that Ron Washington and the staff have to handle this guy with kid gloves. He’s not real fan-friendly and he’s not a real big fan of the media. The Boston press would eat this guy alive and if Bobby V stays the relationship between the two would be a disaster.


    Dallas is a big sports market, but it’s The Cowboys, Cowboys, Cowboys, The Rangers do get press put not anywhere near what The Cowboys get.

    Hamilton’s personal shortcomings can be somewhat hidden in the Dallas Metro area, thanks to Nolan Ryan and Jerry Jones, the media in Dallas really likes Ryan and they also really fear Jones.


    The Boston press would give this guy a Procto-exam on a daily basis and he’d welt like week old lettuce before the first 50 games of the 2013 season were over. The popular consensus by the Dallas sports talking heads is, Ryan isn’t going to let Josh walk and Josh doesn’t really want to walk. 


     
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    Re: Is losing Gonzalez really that big of a deal?

    I for one will miss not seeing Gonzalez in the line-up.
    I think all these players will excel for the Dodgers.  Los Angeles is and always will be a Laker town. Just as Boston is a RS town. For that reason there is less pressure to play there.  Heck, most  fans don't arrive for a game, until the 3rd of 4th inning. It's just not the religious experience that one see's in Boston.

    It takes a certain type of player to succeed in Boston. If not stat wise, than fan wise ala Bill Mueller or Trot Nixon. Some thrive on the pressure, they welcome it (Pedro Martinez, Curt Schilling). Some just crumble (Edgar Renteria).

    At the end of the day, It's a crap shoot! you just never know.

    I just hope the prospects we got, pan-out. That they can thrive in a soap opera atmosphere.
     
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    As I've said, it's really hard to tell, if someone will fit in here.
    Jason Bay played in Pittsburgh all his career, Victor Martinez played in Cleveland his whole career. Yet, both came here with a seamless transition.
    Who could have predicted that?
    Plenty of guys couldn't handle playing in NY or Boston over the years.
    It's a wonder if anyone can figure out who will and who won't.
    No to Hamilton. No to Grienke.
     
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    Nice cherrypicking stats.

    3 years of OBP and SLG  cherrypicking =  an athlete saying I was misquoted.

     Of course an guy with a .320 average is going to have a higher OPS than a guy with a .253 BA.   How does this support this false statement? " Texiera remains one of the premier power hitters in baseball"

    Oh, I forgot, RBIs don't count.  AGon is much better with RISP than Teix, if it was opposite I would care about the extra RBI.


    Posted by rightymclefty[/QUOTE]

    I don't think you could have checked out Teix's numbers that well.  Are Billy Butler and Michael Morse premier power hitters?

    Last three years 

    Morse  .864   Billy Butler .850  Teix  .833  

    wRC+ (park adjusted)

    MM  133  BB  129   MT  122



     
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    Re: Is losing Gonzalez really that big of a deal?

    I'll take Texiera, you take your stats.
    He's been on a World Series winner, and has been integral to the success of his team.
    Plus, he's an amazing fielder.
     
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    I have seen a lot of people talking about how they are not too upset about losing Crawford and Beckett, but they are upset about losing Gonzalez. And while I do agree that Gonzalez is probably the likeliest of those guys to put up good production, I am really not sure losing his production is really as catastrophic as people are making it out to be. Over his last 190+ games with the Red Sox, Gonzalez hit 25 home runs and posted an OPS under .850. So for a pretty significant sample size, he was not even close to the 40-home run, 1.000 OPS guy we thought he could be in Boston. The production we've gotten for the last 190+ games is similiar to what you could get from an Adam LaRoche-type hitter. And guys like him are signing 2-year, 15 million buck deals with options for third years -- not megabucks like Gonzalez.
    Posted by Zetterberg80


    It is a very big deal if we replace him with James "baloney " Loney as a permanent replacement starting next year.  I live in the Los Angeles are and I can tell you this guy is lousy.....weak hitter, no power, no fire, no charisma and no flare....a very bad addition for the Red Sox.  If he keeps up his rotten play that he did for the Dodgers the fans in Boston will eat him alive.  No way in h@ll must Cherington resign this guy when he becomes a free agent  this winter.  He must not only be allowed to walk, if necessary, he must he escorted out of the park and out of Boston.
     
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    Re: Is losing Gonzalez really that big of a deal?

    tom-uk:

    You are ignoring the one statistic that measures power better than any other and also happens to be inconvenient for your argument with regards to Tex as a power hitter.  ISO which is a better measure of power than basically any other stat because it removes the batting average component from slugging and measures raw power has Tex as a top 15 power hitter since he has been with the Yankees (and considering a few of the guys ahead of him aren't full time players he has been closer to top 10).

    I am not personally a huge Tex fan for other reasons, but to argue that he isn't a premier power hitter is wrong imo (his deteriorating batting average and obp aside).
     
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