Re: Is Mike Scioscia really this stupid?
posted at 5/4/2011 12:48 AM EDT
In Response to Re: Is Mike Scioscia really this stupid?
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Is Mike Scioscia really this stupid? : He does, it is often discussed factor in LA. If you watch an LA feed you will often see the catcher looking into the dugout and Scioccia giving him signs. I can't get NESN feeds so I don't know how they show the games. He also manages his pitchers with signs, telling them when to hold the ball longer with runners on and such. He signals the sign to the catcher and the catcher relays this to the pitcher. In fact the play-by-play commented on Mike's signals a couple of times. Mike's doing this dates all the way back to when he had Molina brothers (Benji and Jose) on the same team. The difference between Napoli and Mathis, is to a large extent a coincidence
, though some could say that Mathis frames pitches better and pitchers liked his target better. I think in the midst of the epic Catcher's Relevance thread Scioscia's preference for calling pitches himself was mentioned. Back to managers being second guessed, Mike first goes with his starter longer than he should have, 410 feet later thinks better of it and brings in Takahashi who had worked last night and two innings the night before and let the poor guy get hammered. Imagine if that happened to Tito who gets second guessed in victory.
Posted by fivekatz
That's some coincidence! 4 years running - All the starters doing better/ much better with Mathis over Napoli...with Scioscia calling 'em all!
61% points win/loss difference covering three hundred games.
That's some pitch framing!
. I don't buy into it.
In fact, I disputed it on the Caddy thread and asked someone to show evidence. Nobody did. Managers/bench coaches signal their catchers to throw over to hold runners close. Scioscia didn't invent this. If he were calling these games, then Mathis would be looking over there on every pitch
. He doesn't.
I watch these games too.
I watch the replays and freeze-frame it.
I watch when the camera is on Scioscia directly after a pitch and he just shuffles around.
Watch it closely when nobody's on base
. Then observe it with runners on. That's when he's flashing signs. He's an aggressive manager, as you said.
But never have I heard that he calls the pitches. Never have I read it or heard it from any announcer. And I get the live feed from all teams in the MLB package. Never have I seen evidence of it. It's press BS.
The only times I have ever heard of a manager calling games is with a rookie receiver or a catcher with the IQ of a Softlaw - just out to lunch.
These guys (managers) have a hell of a lot on their minds during a game. The last responsibility they want is to delay the game and call 130 pitches a night.