I suppose Bradley could be the next Freddy Lynn, and he might make me become a believer that we have a chance this year, but 11 games vs 162 is still the right idea. I can see starting him with the big club, but then I hear he has to go down for 20 days. Maybe when Papi comes back that could happen, but the 11 days sounds better to me.
I can understand the mania building for this guy. He is something special. He's so special, I want him here in Boston an extra year.
If he turns out to be a superstar , we can have him for the extra year , and for his productive career , if we want. How have we become a small market team , unable to deal with Boras ?
Not at all! I expect us to extend or re-sign him at a hefty cost. We will then not be able to spend on other positions due to our restricted budget- not small market, but restrictive none the less. Like it or not, we do not have an unlimited budget.
Yes, we can extend or re-sign him, but it might be a huge cost for that one year, and like it or not, this team is on a budget and always will be. It might be a top 2-5 budget in MLB for quite a while, but the fact is, the money we end up spending on JBJ for that year is money we can not spend on another position of two, or three.
11 Days for 162 during prime age.
We're not even going to win it all this year, even if JBJ has a Fred Lynn rookie type year.
If he turns out to be just an above average player, or less , we simply move on. We have no idea what the future holds.
And, then we also lost nothing for missing him for 11 days this April as well, right?
If he ends up being average or above average, then what did we miss by having him in AAA for 11 days? Are you thinking he will have an awesome 11 days, then maybe just be average or above average the rest of the way, we make the playoffs by a close amount, so those 11 days were crucial, and then we go on to win a ring, all in thanks to those 11 days?
Six years from now , there will be a host of young players who we have not heard about at this time.
This is a lame point.
Moonslav , life is short. You are thinking way too far into the future. Why not go for it all right now ?
11 games is not likely to help or hurt us enough for the "go for it all right now" portion of this decision. It's 11 games now vs 162 games in 7 years. I plan on being alive and a Sox fan in 2020.
It's that here and now attitude that got us Crawford, and Lackey and 6 years of losing.
11 games now vs 162 later is a no brainer.
If it was 162 now for 162 later, I'd still be hesitant, since my guess is that JBJ will be better in 7 years than in 2013. At least at 162 vs 162, I could see going with JBJ all season, but it's not even close. That extra 151 games has huge value. Much much more than 11 games in April on a team destined to finish out of the playoffs.
You whole argument is based on the thinking that he will leave as a free agent when eligible.
Again, not at all. I probably will want to re-sign him after 2018 or 2019, whichever it turns out to be, if he is a good to great player. The point is that although we are not a small market team, we are still on a restricted budget, so the extra cost need to pay JBJ in 2020 will mean that money can not and will not be spent on someone else to fill an area of high need.
Even if he did , my "lame point " is that there will be others ready to take his place by then. It is very difficult to argue with someone with your know-it-all attitude.
I should have made this point clear. I'm not pretending to think we won't have someone in 7 years, but that even if we did, what difference would it make. We could just trade one or find a new position.
It is obvious to many of us that we should be putting our best team on the field from day one. You have obviously given up on the season, and are planning for the future.
Actually, I believe my plan "for the future" also put a team on the field for 2013 that would have been BETTER, younger, and more exciting to watch. In fact, my team had JBJ as our starting CF'er (where he belongs) long before the ST hoopla took hold. I also had Tazawa (perhaps our best pitcher) stretched out to be our 5th starter. I also had the superior Iggy at SS, and wanted Linares and Brentz to get a legitinate shot at winning a job. I feel very confident my team woul win more than this one, even with JBJ in AAA for the first 11 days.
I would continue to debate this , but my back is killing me from " moving the goalposts." I have to go get some ICY HOT. Meanwhile , keep working on your " projections " for 2019 and beyond.
I we will both be Sox fans in 2019 and 2020, an.d we will be arguing about how to fill 3 key roster openings on such a tight budget, due in part to JBJ's new contract.
I hope your back is better. Forget the ICY HOT, cure the source of the problem and try what softy uses: a Balsa Wood goalpost.