Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

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    Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    He's turning into an absolute superstar right before our very eyes this year.  After Gonzalez, he may be the team's MVP as far as position players go.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

     

     Name

    Team

     

    OBP 

     

    SLG 

     

    OPS 

     

    Matt Kemp

    LAD

     

    .408 

     

    .603 

     

    1.011 

     

    Curtis Granderson

    NYY

     

    .366 

     

    .590 

     

    .956 

     

    Shane Victorino

    PHI

     

    .376 

     

    .524 

     

    .900 

     

    Carlos Beltran

    NYM

     

    .373 

     

    .506 

     

    .880 

     

    Andrew McCutchen

    PIT

     

    .389 

     

    .491 

     

    .879 

     

    Hunter Pence

    HOU

     

    .372 

     

    .503 

     

    .875 

     

    Carlos Gonzalez

    COL

     

    .363 

     

    .497 

     

    .860 

     

    Jacoby Ellsbury

    BOS

     

    .369 

     

    .475 

     

    .845 

     

    Jay Bruce

    CIN

     

    .330 

     

    .489 

     

    .819 

     

    Chris Young

    ARI

     

    .324 

     

    .478 

     

    .802 

     

    Adam Jones

    BAL

     

    .326 

     

    .457 

     

    .782 

     

    Melky Cabrera

    KC

     

    .324 

     

    .454 

     

    .777 

     

    Colby Rasmus

    STL

     

    .336 

     

    .425 

     

    .761 

     

    Michael Bourn

    HOU

     

    .353 

     

    .403 

     

    .757 

     

    Brett Gardner

    NYY

     

    .349 

     

    .400 

     

    .749 

     

    Kosuke Fukudome

    CHC

     

    .378 

     

    .371 

     

    .749 

     

    Cameron Maybin

    SD

     

    .331 

     

    .413 

     

    .744 

     

    B.J. Upton

    TB

     

    .318 

     

    .405 

     

    .722 

     

    Drew Stubbs

    CIN

     

    .324 

     

    .396 

     

    .720 

     

    Michael Brantley

    CLE

     

    .326 

     

    .383 

     

    .709 

     

    Peter Bourjos

    LAA

     

    .317 

     

    .389 

     

    .706 

     

    Jose Tabata

    PIT

     

    .351 

     

    .354 

     

    .705 

     

    Jayson Werth

    WAS

     

    .322 

     

    .372 

     

    .694 

     

    Coco Crisp

    OAK

     

    .306 

     

    .387 

     

    .693 

     

    Torii Hunter

    LAA

     

    .313 

     

    .375 

     

    .688 

     

    Corey Patterson

    TOR

     

    .292 

     

    .392 

     

    .684 

     

    Austin Jackson

    DET

     

    .319 

     

    .362 

     

    .681 

     

    Chris Coghlan

    FLA

     

    .296 

     

    .368 

     

    .664 

     

    David DeJesus

    OAK

     

    .313 

     

    .340 

     

    .652 

     

    Alex Rios

    CWS

     

    .266 

     

    .315 

     

    .581 

     

                       
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    Matt Kemp is the only CF that's better.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    My question is why Babe vanishes on nights like tonight?  I know the answer.
     
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    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    My question is why Babe vanishes on nights like tonight?  I know the answer.
    Posted by jimdavis


    He's in moron class.
     
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    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today. : He's in moron class.
    Posted by nhsteven


    LOL...I really did laugh out loud.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

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    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today. : LOL...I really did laugh out loud.
    Posted by jimdavis


    You should have seen my dialogue with him today; it was the VMART HOFer thread.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    I'm going there now!
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    Hope I didn't oversell it...
     
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    Hope I didn't oversell it...
    Posted by nhsteven


    It was awesome.  You took babe's lunch money.  You both are Yankee fans?  With a Sox forum Yankee fan smackdown?
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    Babe is funny.  He can't take when I say something that does not bash the Yanks.  He doesn't know how to respond.  I don't like the Yanks but I know there history, spend many nights in their ballpark and respect them.  This is something babe doesn't get.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    I see ten AL CF on that list that are better than Bellsbury. Let's not even mention how many better NL CF there are.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today. : It was awesome.  You took babe's lunch money.  You both are Yankee fans?  With a Sox forum Yankee fan smackdown?
    Posted by jimdavis


    That's because he's an idiot.

    We  had a similar joust yesterday; except that one was even more tasteless. It was the Great Throw But.. thread; he started by calling me a LIAR, and it got raunchy afterwards.

    As far as posters sharing the same loyalties who seem to have nothing but mutual & hostile disdain, see Softy+Burrito+Pike+others vs Harness+moon
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    Another ranking of centerfielders:

    http://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.aspx?pos=cf&stats=bat&lg=all&qual=y&type=8&season=2011&month=0&season1=2011&ind=0
     
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    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today. : That's because he's an idiot. We  had a similar joust yesterday; except that one was even more tasteless. It was the  Great Throw But..  thread; he started by calling me a LIAR, and it got raunchy afterwards. As far as posters sharing the same loyalties who seem to have nothing but mutual & hostile disdain, see Softy+Burrito+Pike+others vs Harness+moon
    Posted by nhsteven


    I'm battling Sox fans all the time.  I think I am too positive for many.  I fail to see what there is to complain about.  I actually enjoyed 2008 almost as much as 2007 because the Sox kept coming and just fell short to a better team in the Rays.  I was called crazy for it.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    Your act is getting sad and desperate. Ellsbury is an important part of this team and he's having an outstanding season. Find a new target. Or better yet, just leave.



    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    I see ten AL CF on that list that are better than Bellsbury. Let's not even mention how many better NL CF there are.
    Posted by bettersoftthanlaw

     
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    He's turning into an absolute superstar right before our very eyes this year.  After Gonzalez, he may be the team's MVP as far as position players go.
    Posted by SoxPatsCelts1988


    I think its great Ells has silenced his critics.
     
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    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    His OPS isn't even strong enough to make him a star OF'er. I wasn't aware that ranking 15th in MLB OF OPS makes a player "a superstar before our very eyes". He's a superstar before your very wet dreams. Trade him plus 3 or 4 other young talents for a real superstar, Matt Kemp. RK PLAYER TEAM AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS 1 Jose Bautista TOR 288 69 96 14 1 29 61 5 3 71 52 .333 .467 .691 1.158 2 Matt Kemp LAD 315 54 102 18 2 22 64 25 3 45 78 .324 .408 .603 1.011 3 Lance Berkman STL 259 52 75 12 0 23 62 0 3 50 47 .290 .401 .602 1.004 4 Ryan Braun MIL 306 57 98 19 3 16 62 19 4 40 51 .320 .402 .559 .961 5 Curtis Granderson NYY 321 77 87 11 7 25 62 15 7 44 88 .271 .362 .583 .944 6 Shane Victorino PHI 267 53 81 14 9 9 34 13 2 27 31 .303 .376 .524 .900 7 Andrew McCutchen PIT 320 52 93 22 3 12 48 15 5 47 62 .291 .389 .491 .879 8 Justin Upton ARI 334 52 98 22 3 14 44 14 6 35 68 .293 .375 .503 .878 9 Carlos Beltran NYM 313 50 89 26 2 13 57 3 0 43 53 .284 .372 .505 .877 10 Hunter Pence HOU 341 41 112 24 2 10 59 5 0 23 76 .328 .371 .499 .869 RK PLAYER TEAM AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO AVG OBP SLG OPS 11 Brennan Boesch DET 300 57 92 22 0 12 40 4 3 26 53 .307 .363 .500 .863 12 Seth Smith COL 262 39 78 23 4 8 36 3 1 22 55 .298 .354 .508 .862 13 Carlos Gonzalez COL 314 55 93 18 3 13 51 14 4 33 71 .296 .363 .497 .860 14 Carlos Quentin CHW 293 36 74 24 0 17 50 1 1 28 51 .253 .351 .509 .859 15 Jacoby Ellsbury BOS 348 61 108 25 1 11 47 28 10 30 53 .310 .372 .483 .855  
    Posted by billbyboy


    The majority of the players on that list don't play CF.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    At the beginning of last year, he was the worst CF in the game and Mike Cameron was to be our savior, according to many on this board.
    He still has a lot to learn about playing the OF, as he relies much more on his speed than on instincts but that will come.
    What he really needs work on is his base running. He needs to be much more relaxed and more aggressive. Right now, he sticks to first base like it's his security blanket, and does not know how to get a lead. He should be running on the first or second pitch when he gets on, especisally against a RH pitcher, and is costing Pedroia too many strikes. You can see Pedey taking pitches so Ells can run but lately, he hasn't been.
    Does anyone else see it that way?
     
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    As usual, don't confuse Softy with facts.
     
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    I guess some think we have to have an allstar at EVERY position...Oh, wait....
     
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    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today. : He's in moron class.
    Posted by nhsteven


    you should know; you're his teacher.
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    Agreed, Ellsbury Rocks.

     
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        Name Team   OBP     SLG     OPS     Matt Kemp LAD   .408    .603    1.011     Curtis Granderson NYY   .366    .590    .956     Shane Victorino PHI   .376    .524    .900     Carlos Beltran NYM   .373    .506    .880     Andrew McCutchen PIT   .389    .491    .879     Hunter Pence HOU   .372    .503    .875     Carlos Gonzalez COL   .363    .497    .860     Jacoby Ellsbury BOS   .369    .475    .845     Jay Bruce CIN   .330    .489    .819     Chris Young ARI   .324    .478    .802     Adam Jones BAL   .326    .457    .782     Melky Cabrera KC   .324    .454    .777     Colby Rasmus STL   .336    .425    .761     Michael Bourn HOU   .353    .403    .757     Brett Gardner NYY   .349    .400    .749     Kosuke Fukudome CHC   .378    .371    .749     Cameron Maybin SD   .331    .413    .744     B.J. Upton TB   .318    .405    .722     Drew Stubbs CIN   .324    .396    .720     Michael Brantley CLE   .326    .383    .709     Peter Bourjos LAA   .317    .389    .706     Jose Tabata PIT   .351    .354    .705     Jayson Werth WAS   .322    .372    .694     Coco Crisp OAK   .306    .387    .693     Torii Hunter LAA   .313    .375    .688     Corey Patterson TOR   .292    .392    .684     Austin Jackson DET   .319    .362    .681     Chris Coghlan FLA   .296    .368    .664     David DeJesus OAK   .313    .340    .652     Alex Rios CWS   .266    .315    .581                        
    Posted by nhsteven

    Most of those guys arent CFers?
     
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    Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.

    In Response to Re: Jacoby Ellsbury is the best CF in the AL and may be the best in the game today.:
    Babe is funny.  He can't take when I say something that does not bash the Yanks.  He doesn't know how to respond.  I don't like the Yanks but I know there history, spend many nights in their ballpark and respect them.  This is something babe doesn't get.

    Posted by jimdavis

    Now if you just knew how to spell.

     
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