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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.

     



    There is some truth to what you say. But, sorry, much of it is disjointed and misinformational. Also, Obama's policies so far appears to be the lesser of 2 bad approaches. Don't you remember what happened in 2008? I assume you are aware this is why Obama won.  Do you realize most economists applauded his stimulus approach to confront a dire situation, thanks largely to the preceding Commander iN CHIEF? And, do you have a LINK showing that 50% (Children excepted) DON"T pay income taxes? How about some of the UBER companies & individuals who don't pay any or very little, and the increase in those during W? And did you check the #s regarding deficits vs administrations? 

    As stated before, I believe you're entitled to your opinions. However, you are now showing NO respect for other opinions. As a result, why should anyone respect yours? 

     



    Obama's policies has record number of people on food stamps and the job rate is still bad.  Lots of money is being poured into our economy, printed by the feds, so of course thing look rosie.  They are not.

     

    My information is not disjointed or misinformational.  Simply because you are not already aware of the information I have presented does not mean it's misinformation.

    Obama won for alot of reasons.  Some people just wanted to vote for the first black president, some people didn't want to vote for another republican.  Some of those people have regreted  voting for obama. 

    I am not here to defend bush, he is on his ranch having a good old time for himself.  Obama is in the oval office so I think people need to stop using bush as a crutch.

    Obama said he would cut the defficit in half, he has added trillions and trillions.  He said he would have the most transparent presidency, well look at how he got obamacare passed, look at bengahzi.  The man is anything but transparent.

    Obama said there would be no more red or blue states just the united states.  He has been one of the most divisive presidents to hold office.  I am not here to defend bush, the man has retired.  You can say most economist applaud him, were is your link.  I'm sure that there are many economists who say he is doing a terrible job.

    I believe any president would look good if they had the advantage of having money printed and poured into the economy.  That is not something to feel good about.

    I did not mean to offend you or anyone else.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact that my generation is destroying our childrens future with this mountain of debt and no one seems to care.

    I look at my baby granddaughter and wonder what her future will be. At the end of obama's presidency we will be 20 trillion in debt, 20 trillion, my goodness.  I hope all those young ladies find free birth control to be worth it.

    I'm heading out but I will find the link for you.

     



    I can't figure out what's more ridiculous; your responses to me or your comparison to pre-WWII Germany.

     

    And yes, you had opinion flavored misinformation to the gills, starting with your wild claims on what Obama has done. And it's not a crutch to mention Bush if Obama had to attempt to clean up his mess via stimulating the economy, adding to the deficit. And where is the inflation in association with the "printed money"? Did you know the Fed this week decided to keep interest rates low because "Inflation is currrently in check"? Should I believe you over the Fed? 

    And please, don't provide another link from a wacko site.  Let's just conclude we don't agree. Have respect for my opinion, like I do for yours, which, I actually agree with to a certain degree; that neither school of thought shall work that well in the long run.

     




    The reason inflation is currently in check is because of the federal reserve which has nothing to do with obama.  Many people give the federal reserve credit for saving the economy.  The reason the federal reserve is seperate from the white house is because having politicians in charge of money is a disaster.

     

    If the federal reserve pulls the money out of the economy at the right time there will be no inflation but if they don't then there could be substantial inflation.

    I don't believe the federal reserve has ever pumped this much money into the economy so it is yet to be seen if this will work. I guess if things go south obama has someone to blame

    The monetary stimulus by the federal reserve was more effective than obama's fiscal stimulus.

    It is safe to say that the federal reserve would have saved the economny no matter who was in the oval office, even bush.  Obama had nothing to do with it.  Over all obama has hurt the economy because we didn't need the fiscal stimulus, there were no shovel ready projects. Now we owe all that money.

    My information is correct, you of course disagree.  If you had the courage to do your home work you would find out I know a whole lot more than you give me credit for.

     



     

    Perhaps you need to do your homework. More emotional misinformation (recall the Weimar comment) and even self contradiction. In earlier posts of yours, you repeatedly complained about the printing of money during Obama. Then in this post:

     

    The reason inflation is currently in check is because of the federal reserve which has nothing to do with obama.  Many people give the federal reserve credit for saving the economy. The reason the federal reserve is seperate from the white house is because having politicians in charge of money is a disaster.

      

    If the federal reserve pulls the money out of the economy at the right time there will be no inflation but if they don't then there could be substantial inflation.

     

    Shortly after:

     

    I don't believe the federal reserve has ever pumped this much money into the economy so it is yet to be seen if this will work. I guess if things go south obama has someone to blame

     

    You mentioned we're printing money, then you contradict it, then contradict it again.  My gosh, make up your mind! It's the FED that prints money, and the interest rate is AT AN ALL TIME LOW; they don't need to worry about inflation at the moment!

    http://www.federalreserve.gov/faqs/about_12594.htm

     

     
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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.

     



    There is some truth to what you say. But, sorry, much of it is disjointed and misinformational. Also, Obama's policies so far appears to be the lesser of 2 bad approaches. Don't you remember what happened in 2008? I assume you are aware this is why Obama won.  Do you realize most economists applauded his stimulus approach to confront a dire situation, thanks largely to the preceding Commander iN CHIEF? And, do you have a LINK showing that 50% (Children excepted) DON"T pay income taxes? How about some of the UBER companies & individuals who don't pay any or very little, and the increase in those during W? And did you check the #s regarding deficits vs administrations? 

    As stated before, I believe you're entitled to your opinions. However, you are now showing NO respect for other opinions. As a result, why should anyone respect yours? 

     



    Obama's policies has record number of people on food stamps and the job rate is still bad.  Lots of money is being poured into our economy, printed by the feds, so of course thing look rosie.  They are not.

     

    My information is not disjointed or misinformational.  Simply because you are not already aware of the information I have presented does not mean it's misinformation.

    Obama won for alot of reasons.  Some people just wanted to vote for the first black president, some people didn't want to vote for another republican.  Some of those people have regreted  voting for obama. 

    I am not here to defend bush, he is on his ranch having a good old time for himself.  Obama is in the oval office so I think people need to stop using bush as a crutch.

    Obama said he would cut the defficit in half, he has added trillions and trillions.  He said he would have the most transparent presidency, well look at how he got obamacare passed, look at bengahzi.  The man is anything but transparent.

    Obama said there would be no more red or blue states just the united states.  He has been one of the most divisive presidents to hold office.  I am not here to defend bush, the man has retired.  You can say most economist applaud him, were is your link.  I'm sure that there are many economists who say he is doing a terrible job.

    I believe any president would look good if they had the advantage of having money printed and poured into the economy.  That is not something to feel good about.

    I did not mean to offend you or anyone else.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact that my generation is destroying our childrens future with this mountain of debt and no one seems to care.

    I look at my baby granddaughter and wonder what her future will be. At the end of obama's presidency we will be 20 trillion in debt, 20 trillion, my goodness.  I hope all those young ladies find free birth control to be worth it.

    I'm heading out but I will find the link for you.

     



    The foodstamp number is a red herring for conservatives - of course more Americans are on food stamps during an economic recovery - we should want that; the alternative is mass hunger.  What they don't tell you is that food stamps were at a record high the day Obama took office as well, doubling during an economic boom under Bush - that is what should be alarming.

     

    You can't have an honest discussion without opening the debate to how we got here, and you can't discuss how we got here without attributing blame to Bush, or at least recognizing the severity of the inherited situation.  We are printing money because interest rates were at 0% when Obama took office - again, during a boom the federal funds rate ws at zero percent.  If you set a house on fire and take away the hose, you don't blame the fireman for not putting it out fast enough.

    What you can't wrap your head around is the notion that this debt does not belong to Obama.  The stimulus spending - yes, that's Obama.  Less than $1 trillion.  All the other debt accrued under this president was the result of an economy gone bust and ridiculous deficits driven up under the previous administration, under the false promise that tax cuts would make us all rich.   Tell your granddaughter you're sorry you voted for Bush.

     

     




    He had four years to bring down unemployment.  If we had the same level of work force participation as in 08 the real unemployment rate would be 11%  People have stopped looking for work because big brother is taking care of them for years in the guise of unemployment.  There is less incentive to work.  Studies show that once unemployment runs out people find jobs.

     

    Stop blaming bush, obama has been on office for five years, for the first two years he had control of the house and the senate. He could have accomplished a lot of good for our country.

    Instead of using that time to improve the economy he wasted his time on obama care.  Obama care is a massive tax hike, just wait until 2014.  Obamacare is causing massive health care inflation, our rate in the last two years went up by 60% because someone has to pay for obamacare.

    Things went bad for bush in the end because of fanny mae and freddy mac.  Barny Frank was a proponant of encouraging fanny and freddy to loan more to low income people.  He wanted to gaurantee the loans of people who had bad credit.  When the government gaurantees the loans no one cares about the quality of the loans because the government stands behind it.

    This was in no way bushes fault. He tried to tighten the loans given out by fanny and freddy but the democratic congress stopped him.

    The root cause of the crash was bad loans which were guaranteed by fanny and freddy.  These loans were encourage by barny frank.

    Life was pretty good under bush until the housing crash about a year before the election. 

    So I will not apologize for voting for bush, he did not cause the crash.  If any one is to blame it's fanny, freddy and barney.

    Bush had to deal with 911 and did an amazing job.  After 911 we were safe.  Under obama we have bengahzi and boston.  I'll take bush any day.

     

     

     

     

     

    So Bush gets a pass on 9/11 & 2008, but Obama gets blamed for Boston? Got it.

    While the Fannie–Freddie-Barney fiasco was part of the 2008 meltdown; this, along with Detroit, was considered secondary. There were other factors as well. The biggest culprit was the lack of regulation on Wall ST. (which, BTW, would have kept the F-F-B fiasco largely in check, since related funds were often imbedded in the toxic darkly layered complex financial instruments largely immune from this lax regulation), which cost McCain the election, since he was leading in the polls before this, and could not recover from the hit.

    While Benghazi was a policy failure,  check out this:

     

     

      I'll take bush any day.

     

    Really? Even after:

     

    1. Going from a record black Budget surplus to record RED deficit.

     

    2. Starting a war with IRAQ based on WMDs. Two offshoots

     

    2.1 The Valerie Plame incident, initiated by Cheney to punish her for claiming there was no uranium cake from Niger; impact: A multi-trillion dollar international compromise on the tracking of nuclear weapons proliferation; this result censored here, but they're pretty p-ssed overseas.

     

    2.2 Unprecedented illegal WAR profiteering, the real reason for the IRAQ WAR; to whit; during WWII, an ESSENTIAL War, FDR threw a bunch of his buddies in jail for WAR profiteering. IRAQ was much worse. How many companies were disciplined for WAR profiteering in the IRAQ WAR? NONE!

     

    2.3 Abu Ghraib

     

    3. GITMO

     

    4. The Alberto Gonzalez Justice Dep't scandal.

     

    5. Katrina - You're doing a heckuva job Brownie.

     

    6. 9/11 - Actually, he likely gets a pass here; if Congress wasn't so obsessed with attempting to impeach Clinton over a cigar, maybe they would have heeded the CIA warnings.

     

    7. No raise in the Minimum Wage

     

    8. Kenny Boy - Smartly, he distanced himself from him; partly as the result of SEC deregulation, there were other major financial scandals as well.

     

    9. Suppression of stem cell & climate research

     

    10. 2008 Financial Crisis

     

     To his credit, he realized Cheney was playing him during the 2nd term, and subsequently basically told him to get lost, starting with his refusal to pardon Justice Dept scandal participant Scooter Libby. (Miers & Eagleburger refused to respond to their subpoenas.) Nevertheless, according to an exhaustive pooled survey of presidential rankings, he is ranked 35th (Out of 43), while Obama is so far ranked 14th.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_Presidents_of_the_United_States

     

    In order for the Republican party to get a Commander-In-Chief elected going forward, they shall need a candidate that adheres to the proud conservative model of Goldwater & Reagan, not the greedy hypocritical excuse that the majority is not falling for. This shall include the tough task of  standing up to the related well heeled spheres of influence, and the fringe. In addition, they need to have wingnuts such as Perry, Aiken, Mourdock and lately a bunch more to keep their ignorant mouths shut.

     
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    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.




    You are not unbelievable.  You are just one of the Great Unwashed that understands 1% of what you hear on Fox News.

    Do you know roughly what percentage of the US budget is spent on "welfare" programs?  Do you know roughly what percentage of that is spent on the "non-working poor"?

    Why don't you look it up rather than spout such ignorant nonsense, it just makes you look even more like a fool.

    There is a ticking timebomb of debt that will come crashing down one day, but to blame welfare and the poor is just ridiculous.  Oh, wait, you're ridiculous.

     

     

     
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    This is pure economic fantasy. Inflation has not been a problem.

    You obviously are such a mental midget you haven't been buying groceries and gas. Perhaps your husband is buying the groceries and you are driving on "green energy".

     

     

    Except we appear to have generally speaking a low inflation problem, affecting demand. 

     
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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

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    67, if you don't understand my point, please look up a. the health care reform program that Nixon fought tooth and nail for, and b. all the proposed tax rates of the Reagan administration.  Then compare them to what Obama has put on the table.  It might be an eye opener for you.  

    sidenote:  you will have to deal with all your adversaries here as individuals.  You do not find me putting down Christianity or anyone's religion.  Taking issue with positions held by a given religion because I feel they hurt other peope is not putting down.  Its just taking issue.

     

     
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    Hey, guess what, everybody: Jason Collins is gay.

     

     
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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.

     



    There is some truth to what you say. But, sorry, much of it is disjointed and misinformational. Also, Obama's policies so far appears to be the lesser of 2 bad approaches. Don't you remember what happened in 2008? I assume you are aware this is why Obama won.  Do you realize most economists applauded his stimulus approach to confront a dire situation, thanks largely to the preceding Commander iN CHIEF? And, do you have a LINK showing that 50% (Children excepted) DON"T pay income taxes? How about some of the UBER companies & individuals who don't pay any or very little, and the increase in those during W? And did you check the #s regarding deficits vs administrations? 

    As stated before, I believe you're entitled to your opinions. However, you are now showing NO respect for other opinions. As a result, why should anyone respect yours? 

     



    Obama's policies has record number of people on food stamps and the job rate is still bad.  Lots of money is being poured into our economy, printed by the feds, so of course thing look rosie.  They are not.

     

    My information is not disjointed or misinformational.  Simply because you are not already aware of the information I have presented does not mean it's misinformation.

    Obama won for alot of reasons.  Some people just wanted to vote for the first black president, some people didn't want to vote for another republican.  Some of those people have regreted  voting for obama. 

    I am not here to defend bush, he is on his ranch having a good old time for himself.  Obama is in the oval office so I think people need to stop using bush as a crutch.

    Obama said he would cut the defficit in half, he has added trillions and trillions.  He said he would have the most transparent presidency, well look at how he got obamacare passed, look at bengahzi.  The man is anything but transparent.

    Obama said there would be no more red or blue states just the united states.  He has been one of the most divisive presidents to hold office.  I am not here to defend bush, the man has retired.  You can say most economist applaud him, were is your link.  I'm sure that there are many economists who say he is doing a terrible job.

    I believe any president would look good if they had the advantage of having money printed and poured into the economy.  That is not something to feel good about.

    I did not mean to offend you or anyone else.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact that my generation is destroying our childrens future with this mountain of debt and no one seems to care.

    I look at my baby granddaughter and wonder what her future will be. At the end of obama's presidency we will be 20 trillion in debt, 20 trillion, my goodness.  I hope all those young ladies find free birth control to be worth it.

    I'm heading out but I will find the link for you.

     



    The foodstamp number is a red herring for conservatives - of course more Americans are on food stamps during an economic recovery - we should want that; the alternative is mass hunger.  What they don't tell you is that food stamps were at a record high the day Obama took office as well, doubling during an economic boom under Bush - that is what should be alarming.

     

    You can't have an honest discussion without opening the debate to how we got here, and you can't discuss how we got here without attributing blame to Bush, or at least recognizing the severity of the inherited situation.  We are printing money because interest rates were at 0% when Obama took office - again, during a boom the federal funds rate ws at zero percent.  If you set a house on fire and take away the hose, you don't blame the fireman for not putting it out fast enough.

    What you can't wrap your head around is the notion that this debt does not belong to Obama.  The stimulus spending - yes, that's Obama.  Less than $1 trillion.  All the other debt accrued under this president was the result of an economy gone bust and ridiculous deficits driven up under the previous administration, under the false promise that tax cuts would make us all rich.   Tell your granddaughter you're sorry you voted for Bush.

     

     




    He had four years to bring down unemployment.  If we had the same level of work force participation as in 08 the real unemployment rate would be 11%  People have stopped looking for work because big brother is taking care of them for years in the guise of unemployment.  There is less incentive to work.  Studies show that once unemployment runs out people find jobs.

     

    Stop blaming bush, obama has been on office for five years, for the first two years he had control of the house and the senate. He could have accomplished a lot of good for our country.

    Instead of using that time to improve the economy he wasted his time on obama care.  Obama care is a massive tax hike, just wait until 2014.  Obamacare is causing massive health care inflation, our rate in the last two years went up by 60% because someone has to pay for obamacare.

    Things went bad for bush in the end because of fanny mae and freddy mac.  Barny Frank was a proponant of encouraging fanny and freddy to loan more to low income people.  He wanted to gaurantee the loans of people who had bad credit.  When the government gaurantees the loans no one cares about the quality of the loans because the government stands behind it.

    This was in no way bushes fault. He tried to tighten the loans given out by fanny and freddy but the democratic congress stopped him.

    The root cause of the crash was bad loans which were guaranteed by fanny and freddy.  These loans were encourage by barny frank.

    Life was pretty good under bush until the housing crash about a year before the election. 

    So I will not apologize for voting for bush, he did not cause the crash.  If any one is to blame it's fanny, freddy and barney.

    Bush had to deal with 911 and did an amazing job.  After 911 we were safe.  Under obama we have bengahzi and boston.  I'll take bush any day.



    Unemployment benefits do run out - I believe after 18 months.  The "real unemployment" number that conservatives like to throw out has always been around - it's referred by economists as the U6 and it was as high as 15% under W and 20% under Reagan.  It's just another conservative deception.  You have several more in your post - I'm not accusing you of being deceiptful, mind you - just falling for your party BS.

    Obama had control of both houses of congress in his first two years - true, but deceiving.  The GOP used the fillibuster every time.  The only law that passed the Senate without 60 votes was Obamacare, and that's when the Hitler comparisons came out.

    Health care costs are directly related to our economy.  The healthier our people, and the more quickly problems are discovered, the less costly they are.  Obamacare was all about getting preventative care available to the masses.  This affects not just medicare and medicaid, but disability claims and overall production.  He knew he had no chance of passing  any sort of reform without 60 votes in the Senate, so he had a very small window to pass very flawed legislation.  Liberals don't like to defend it, but it's better than status quo, and the only GOP solution, you'll recall was to "press the reset button".

    Fannie and Freddie are another deception - government-backed exchanges performed much better than other loan devices, because they were typically lower income homes and those were the first to re-sell as there were several profiles looking to enter that market (new home-buyers and also those down-sizing from larger homes due to the recession).  The million dollar homes that people walked away from caused far, far more damage than the GSE sub-prime loan gone awry.  Also, Fannie and Freddie were not the ring-leaders here - as soon as de-regulation created a means for people to profit on loan defaults (credit default swaps), everybody was handing out loans like halloweeen candy - Fannie and Freddie were dragged into the mess - not leading us into it.  If you don't believe that, just think back to how many emails, phone calls and mails you got in 2003-2004 begging you to re-finance your home.  I got about 5 a day, and I was renting at the time.

    Also, Bush did not try to tighten regulation on Fannie and Freddie - he tried to move oversight to the Executive Branch, presumably so one of his horse-judge buddies could have another pretend cabinet position to foul up.

    Another deception (or misinformation on your part)  - Republicans controlled both houses of Congress from 1995 - 2007.  So you don't like people blaming the president at the time, but you are OK blaming a single representative (out of 435) of a minority party?   Why don't you take a minute to reflect on that.

    Yes, if you were not poor, military, traveling abroad, a citizen of New Orleans or employed within the World Trade Center, life was pretty good for you under Bush for a time.  Why don't you get a room at the Ritz-Carlton for a month, and order room-service every day?   Life will be pretty good for you for a while - don't worry about the aftermath.

    We were safe under Bush after 9/11 - really?  The anthrax scare, the shoe bomber, the DC snipers, the UNC car bomb, the LAX shooting?  And that's just attacks on American soil.  

    Benghazi is the queen of all GOP deceptions, but I'll leave that for another post. I'll just say this - four Americans were killed in Benghazi.  You know what they called a day with four dead Americans under Bush?  Tuesday.

     

     

     

     
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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.

     



    There is some truth to what you say. But, sorry, much of it is disjointed and misinformational. Also, Obama's policies so far appears to be the lesser of 2 bad approaches. Don't you remember what happened in 2008? I assume you are aware this is why Obama won.  Do you realize most economists applauded his stimulus approach to confront a dire situation, thanks largely to the preceding Commander iN CHIEF? And, do you have a LINK showing that 50% (Children excepted) DON"T pay income taxes? How about some of the UBER companies & individuals who don't pay any or very little, and the increase in those during W? And did you check the #s regarding deficits vs administrations? 

    As stated before, I believe you're entitled to your opinions. However, you are now showing NO respect for other opinions. As a result, why should anyone respect yours? 

     



    Obama's policies has record number of people on food stamps and the job rate is still bad.  Lots of money is being poured into our economy, printed by the feds, so of course thing look rosie.  They are not.

     

    My information is not disjointed or misinformational.  Simply because you are not already aware of the information I have presented does not mean it's misinformation.

    Obama won for alot of reasons.  Some people just wanted to vote for the first black president, some people didn't want to vote for another republican.  Some of those people have regreted  voting for obama. 

    I am not here to defend bush, he is on his ranch having a good old time for himself.  Obama is in the oval office so I think people need to stop using bush as a crutch.

    Obama said he would cut the defficit in half, he has added trillions and trillions.  He said he would have the most transparent presidency, well look at how he got obamacare passed, look at bengahzi.  The man is anything but transparent.

    Obama said there would be no more red or blue states just the united states.  He has been one of the most divisive presidents to hold office.  I am not here to defend bush, the man has retired.  You can say most economist applaud him, were is your link.  I'm sure that there are many economists who say he is doing a terrible job.

    I believe any president would look good if they had the advantage of having money printed and poured into the economy.  That is not something to feel good about.

    I did not mean to offend you or anyone else.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact that my generation is destroying our childrens future with this mountain of debt and no one seems to care.

    I look at my baby granddaughter and wonder what her future will be. At the end of obama's presidency we will be 20 trillion in debt, 20 trillion, my goodness.  I hope all those young ladies find free birth control to be worth it.

    I'm heading out but I will find the link for you.

     



    The foodstamp number is a red herring for conservatives - of course more Americans are on food stamps during an economic recovery - we should want that; the alternative is mass hunger.  What they don't tell you is that food stamps were at a record high the day Obama took office as well, doubling during an economic boom under Bush - that is what should be alarming.

     

    You can't have an honest discussion without opening the debate to how we got here, and you can't discuss how we got here without attributing blame to Bush, or at least recognizing the severity of the inherited situation.  We are printing money because interest rates were at 0% when Obama took office - again, during a boom the federal funds rate ws at zero percent.  If you set a house on fire and take away the hose, you don't blame the fireman for not putting it out fast enough.

    What you can't wrap your head around is the notion that this debt does not belong to Obama.  The stimulus spending - yes, that's Obama.  Less than $1 trillion.  All the other debt accrued under this president was the result of an economy gone bust and ridiculous deficits driven up under the previous administration, under the false promise that tax cuts would make us all rich.   Tell your granddaughter you're sorry you voted for Bush.

     

     




    He had four years to bring down unemployment.  If we had the same level of work force participation as in 08 the real unemployment rate would be 11%  People have stopped looking for work because big brother is taking care of them for years in the guise of unemployment.  There is less incentive to work.  Studies show that once unemployment runs out people find jobs.

     

    Stop blaming bush, obama has been on office for five years, for the first two years he had control of the house and the senate. He could have accomplished a lot of good for our country.

    Instead of using that time to improve the economy he wasted his time on obama care.  Obama care is a massive tax hike, just wait until 2014.  Obamacare is causing massive health care inflation, our rate in the last two years went up by 60% because someone has to pay for obamacare.

    Things went bad for bush in the end because of fanny mae and freddy mac.  Barny Frank was a proponant of encouraging fanny and freddy to loan more to low income people.  He wanted to gaurantee the loans of people who had bad credit.  When the government gaurantees the loans no one cares about the quality of the loans because the government stands behind it.

    This was in no way bushes fault. He tried to tighten the loans given out by fanny and freddy but the democratic congress stopped him.

    The root cause of the crash was bad loans which were guaranteed by fanny and freddy.  These loans were encourage by barny frank.

    Life was pretty good under bush until the housing crash about a year before the election. 

    So I will not apologize for voting for bush, he did not cause the crash.  If any one is to blame it's fanny, freddy and barney.

    Bush had to deal with 911 and did an amazing job.  After 911 we were safe.  Under obama we have bengahzi and boston.  I'll take bush any day.

     



    Unemployment benefits do run out - I believe after 18 months.  The "real unemployment" number that conservatives like to throw out has always been around - it's referred by economists as the U6 and it was as high as 15% under W and 20% under Reagan.  It's just another conservative deception.  You have several more in your post - I'm not accusing you of being deceiptful, mind you - just falling for your party BS.

     

    Obama had control of both houses of congress in his first two years - true, but deceiving.  The GOP used the fillibuster every time.  The only law that passed the Senate without 60 votes was Obamacare, and that's when the Hitler comparisons came out.

    Health care costs are directly related to our economy.  The healthier our people, and the more quickly problems are discovered, the less costly they are.  Obamacare was all about getting preventative care available to the masses.  This affects not just medicare and medicaid, but disability claims and overall production.  He knew he had no chance of passing  any sort of reform without 60 votes in the Senate, so he had a very small window to pass very flawed legislation.  Liberals don't like to defend it, but it's better than status quo, and the only GOP solution, you'll recall was to "press the reset button".

    Fannie and Freddie are another deception - government-backed exchanges performed much better than other loan devices, because they were typically lower income homes and those were the first to re-sell as there were several profiles looking to enter that market (new home-buyers and also those down-sizing from larger homes due to the recession).  The million dollar homes that people walked away from caused far, far more damage than the GSE sub-prime loan gone awry.  Also, Fannie and Freddie were not the ring-leaders here - as soon as de-regulation created a means for people to profit on loan defaults (credit default swaps), everybody was handing out loans like halloweeen candy - Fannie and Freddie were dragged into the mess - not leading us into it.  If you don't believe that, just think back to how many emails, phone calls and mails you got in 2003-2004 begging you to re-finance your home.  I got about 5 a day, and I was renting at the time.

    Also, Bush did not try to tighten regulation on Fannie and Freddie - he tried to move oversight to the Executive Branch, presumably so one of his horse-judge buddies could have another pretend cabinet position to foul up.

    Another deception (or misinformation on your part)  - Republicans controlled both houses of Congress from 1995 - 2007.  So you don't like people blaming the president at the time, but you are OK blaming a single representative (out of 435) of a minority party?   Why don't you take a minute to reflect on that.

    Yes, if you were not poor, military, traveling abroad, a citizen of New Orleans or employed within the World Trade Center, life was pretty good for you under Bush for a time.  Why don't you get a room at the Ritz-Carlton for a month, and order room-service every day?   Life will be pretty good for you for a while - don't worry about the aftermath.

    We were safe under Bush after 9/11 - really?  The anthrax scare, the shoe bomber, the DC snipers, the UNC car bomb, the LAX shooting?  And that's just attacks on American soil.  

    Benghazi is the queen of all GOP deceptions, but I'll leave that for another post. I'll just say this - four Americans were killed in Benghazi.  You know what they called a day with four dead Americans under Bush?  Tuesday.

     

     

     

     



    1. I alluded to this.

     

    2. Don't forget the Nov '01 plane crash over Rockaway NY, where there whispers of a cover-up, blaming it on mechanical failure. Understandeable given we were a jittery nation soon after 9/11 & anthrax.

     
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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

     

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.

     



    There is some truth to what you say. But, sorry, much of it is disjointed and misinformational. Also, Obama's policies so far appears to be the lesser of 2 bad approaches. Don't you remember what happened in 2008? I assume you are aware this is why Obama won.  Do you realize most economists applauded his stimulus approach to confront a dire situation, thanks largely to the preceding Commander iN CHIEF? And, do you have a LINK showing that 50% (Children excepted) DON"T pay income taxes? How about some of the UBER companies & individuals who don't pay any or very little, and the increase in those during W? And did you check the #s regarding deficits vs administrations? 

    As stated before, I believe you're entitled to your opinions. However, you are now showing NO respect for other opinions. As a result, why should anyone respect yours? 

     



    Obama's policies has record number of people on food stamps and the job rate is still bad.  Lots of money is being poured into our economy, printed by the feds, so of course thing look rosie.  They are not.

     

    My information is not disjointed or misinformational.  Simply because you are not already aware of the information I have presented does not mean it's misinformation.

    Obama won for alot of reasons.  Some people just wanted to vote for the first black president, some people didn't want to vote for another republican.  Some of those people have regreted  voting for obama. 

    I am not here to defend bush, he is on his ranch having a good old time for himself.  Obama is in the oval office so I think people need to stop using bush as a crutch.

    Obama said he would cut the defficit in half, he has added trillions and trillions.  He said he would have the most transparent presidency, well look at how he got obamacare passed, look at bengahzi.  The man is anything but transparent.

    Obama said there would be no more red or blue states just the united states.  He has been one of the most divisive presidents to hold office.  I am not here to defend bush, the man has retired.  You can say most economist applaud him, were is your link.  I'm sure that there are many economists who say he is doing a terrible job.

    I believe any president would look good if they had the advantage of having money printed and poured into the economy.  That is not something to feel good about.

    I did not mean to offend you or anyone else.  I just can't wrap my head around the fact that my generation is destroying our childrens future with this mountain of debt and no one seems to care.

    I look at my baby granddaughter and wonder what her future will be. At the end of obama's presidency we will be 20 trillion in debt, 20 trillion, my goodness.  I hope all those young ladies find free birth control to be worth it.

    I'm heading out but I will find the link for you.

     



    The foodstamp number is a red herring for conservatives - of course more Americans are on food stamps during an economic recovery - we should want that; the alternative is mass hunger.  What they don't tell you is that food stamps were at a record high the day Obama took office as well, doubling during an economic boom under Bush - that is what should be alarming.

     

    You can't have an honest discussion without opening the debate to how we got here, and you can't discuss how we got here without attributing blame to Bush, or at least recognizing the severity of the inherited situation.  We are printing money because interest rates were at 0% when Obama took office - again, during a boom the federal funds rate ws at zero percent.  If you set a house on fire and take away the hose, you don't blame the fireman for not putting it out fast enough.

    What you can't wrap your head around is the notion that this debt does not belong to Obama.  The stimulus spending - yes, that's Obama.  Less than $1 trillion.  All the other debt accrued under this president was the result of an economy gone bust and ridiculous deficits driven up under the previous administration, under the false promise that tax cuts would make us all rich.   Tell your granddaughter you're sorry you voted for Bush.

     

     




    He had four years to bring down unemployment.  If we had the same level of work force participation as in 08 the real unemployment rate would be 11%  People have stopped looking for work because big brother is taking care of them for years in the guise of unemployment.  There is less incentive to work.  Studies show that once unemployment runs out people find jobs.

     

    Stop blaming bush, obama has been on office for five years, for the first two years he had control of the house and the senate. He could have accomplished a lot of good for our country.

    Instead of using that time to improve the economy he wasted his time on obama care.  Obama care is a massive tax hike, just wait until 2014.  Obamacare is causing massive health care inflation, our rate in the last two years went up by 60% because someone has to pay for obamacare.

    Things went bad for bush in the end because of fanny mae and freddy mac.  Barny Frank was a proponant of encouraging fanny and freddy to loan more to low income people.  He wanted to gaurantee the loans of people who had bad credit.  When the government gaurantees the loans no one cares about the quality of the loans because the government stands behind it.

    This was in no way bushes fault. He tried to tighten the loans given out by fanny and freddy but the democratic congress stopped him.

    The root cause of the crash was bad loans which were guaranteed by fanny and freddy.  These loans were encourage by barny frank.

    Life was pretty good under bush until the housing crash about a year before the election. 

    So I will not apologize for voting for bush, he did not cause the crash.  If any one is to blame it's fanny, freddy and barney.

    Bush had to deal with 911 and did an amazing job.  After 911 we were safe.  Under obama we have bengahzi and boston.  I'll take bush any day.

     



    Unemployment benefits do run out - I believe after 18 months.  The "real unemployment" number that conservatives like to throw out has always been around - it's referred by economists as the U6 and it was as high as 15% under W and 20% under Reagan.  It's just another conservative deception.  You have several more in your post - I'm not accusing you of being deceiptful, mind you - just falling for your party BS.

     

    Obama had control of both houses of congress in his first two years - true, but deceiving.  The GOP used the fillibuster every time.  The only law that passed the Senate without 60 votes was Obamacare, and that's when the Hitler comparisons came out.

    Health care costs are directly related to our economy.  The healthier our people, and the more quickly problems are discovered, the less costly they are.  Obamacare was all about getting preventative care available to the masses.  This affects not just medicare and medicaid, but disability claims and overall production.  He knew he had no chance of passing  any sort of reform without 60 votes in the Senate, so he had a very small window to pass very flawed legislation.  Liberals don't like to defend it, but it's better than status quo, and the only GOP solution, you'll recall was to "press the reset button".

    Fannie and Freddie are another deception - government-backed exchanges performed much better than other loan devices, because they were typically lower income homes and those were the first to re-sell as there were several profiles looking to enter that market (new home-buyers and also those down-sizing from larger homes due to the recession).  The million dollar homes that people walked away from caused far, far more damage than the GSE sub-prime loan gone awry.  Also, Fannie and Freddie were not the ring-leaders here - as soon as de-regulation created a means for people to profit on loan defaults (credit default swaps), everybody was handing out loans like halloweeen candy - Fannie and Freddie were dragged into the mess - not leading us into it.  If you don't believe that, just think back to how many emails, phone calls and mails you got in 2003-2004 begging you to re-finance your home.  I got about 5 a day, and I was renting at the time.

    Also, Bush did not try to tighten regulation on Fannie and Freddie - he tried to move oversight to the Executive Branch, presumably so one of his horse-judge buddies could have another pretend cabinet position to foul up.

    Another deception (or misinformation on your part)  - Republicans controlled both houses of Congress from 1995 - 2007.  So you don't like people blaming the president at the time, but you are OK blaming a single representative (out of 435) of a minority party?   Why don't you take a minute to reflect on that.

    Yes, if you were not poor, military, traveling abroad, a citizen of New Orleans or employed within the World Trade Center, life was pretty good for you under Bush for a time.  Why don't you get a room at the Ritz-Carlton for a month, and order room-service every day?   Life will be pretty good for you for a while - don't worry about the aftermath.

    We were safe under Bush after 9/11 - really?  The anthrax scare, the shoe bomber, the DC snipers, the UNC car bomb, the LAX shooting?  And that's just attacks on American soil.  

    Benghazi is the queen of all GOP deceptions, but I'll leave that for another post. I'll just say this - four Americans were killed in Benghazi.  You know what they called a day with four dead Americans under Bush?  Tuesday.

     

     

     

     



    1. I alluded to this.

     

    2. Don't forget the Nov '01 plane crash over Rockaway NY, where there whispers of a cover-up, blaming it on mechanical failure. Understandeable given we were a jittery nation soon after 9/11 & anthrax.




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