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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

     

    Obamacare reminds me of the movie, "Soylent Green".

    Obama doesn't stimulate any ecnomomy, the people who pay taxes and those subject to the public debt "stimulate the economy".

    The national debt increase and the deficits haven't stimulated the economy, nor will it avert an economic collapse. In fact, it will increase the intensity and length of the economic collapse that is built into the policy of "stimulus".

     



    According to your post, it sounds like Keynes & Galbraith were wrong then; I'll pass on that notion.

     

     
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    We are progessing toward socialism, we are not there yet but we are fast approaching.  We are trillions in debt with no end in sight.  Good luck with that.  Look at greece and spain.  Look at states that have a lot of debt. Not good. This is where progressives are taking us.  If we continue on this road we will all be toast.  There will be a level playing field at last but you won't like it.

     




    Ahahahaha.   It's good to see you know as little about economics as everything else.  

     
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    Oh good, at least on the issue of lost respect for the high court we can agree.  For different reasons of course.  i lost the last modicum of respect I had for the Court in the 2000 election.

     

     



    That would be a BINGO except for the fact that they did the right thing with Obamacare. No need to debate this with Softy. It would be an endless endeavor. We will not change his mind; he will not change ours. I do believe that common decency and fairness are on our side however.

     




     

    Pump,

    How can somebody so right be so wrong? ;)  While you're right about most SOFT issues, Obamacare is a manifest cluster- _____________K!

    He said my healthcare bills would go down by $2500.00 / year?  They have easily increased by $2500.  If you don't already know that, you must have more money than you can count.  Way to defend the middle class Mr. Prez!

    Come on now Pump!  Try another tac!  This is a losing cause!

     




     

    RSDD, I have a different perspective, I suspect, than you do about Obamacare. I have worked in the health care field all my professional life and I have seen that as it is currently constructed its not only a failure but a freight train coming straight at us. Sorry to hear that your healthcare bills have gone up that much; they never do go down, do they. Obamacare is an imperfect system, for sure. But its a start. What could NOT happen is that nothing be done and the healthcare system be allowed to continue on its current course. Everyone gets healthcare, one way or another. Its illegal for the ER to refuse service to any individual who happens to walk in. Its also illegal to transfer that patient to another facility. ER care is obscenely inefficient. Since the docs who work there see every kind of patient imaginable they are, unfortunately, not very good at any one specialty except for emergencies. You know who shows up in the ER? People with headaches, sore throats, earaches, leg pain etc etc-things that belong in the office based setting where the care is much more efficient. If you show up in an ER there is a high likelihood of unnecessary labs and XRays being ordered. This is not the case in the office setting. Days and weeks would go by between me ordering labs on my patients, but if they show up in the ER (where the uninsured get their care) you can bet that stuff will get ordered. If everyone had health care there is a better likelihood of people using their personal MD or NP. Money is saved that way. Furthermore, better care is provided. Obamacare is a start IMO, not an end product. It should be a work in progress. Something HAD to be done and after many many years of NOTHING getting passed by an inept Congress I am glad they got the ball rolling.



    Our health insurance went through the roof because of obamacare.

    I worked in the healthcare system also.  Tell me where all the new doctors and nurses are coming from, what about hospital beds.

    Some countries in europe have socialized medicine and it's a mess.  Long waits for doctors visits, sometimes never seeing a doctor, forget about surgery, long waits for that also.

    In some countries the eldery are afraid to go to doctors because they are encourage to end their lives.  There is only so much care to go around so they need to make room for the young.

    One of the authors of obamacare is already concerned that it won't work.  Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes yet the supreme court called it a tax.  That's one heck of a tax hike.  This thing is going to be a miserable mess.  Just give it some time.

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    There are nearly enough doctors already. There is a distribution problem. Physician extenders will need to be used. I have spoken to many Canadiens; their system is not perfect, but health care is available to everyone. That cannot be a bad thing. You are right: elective surgeries will take longer. There is only so many health care dollars to go around. The alternative is much worse.

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    One has to be a fool to submit that criticizing a Christain for not "addressing gay rights" is not criticizing him for being a Christian. That's exactly what it is.

    Let me address the issue of rights for persons based on their sexual proclivity. No rights should ever be granted to any persons based on their sexual proclivity. All liberty comes to all citizens of the United States by virtue of Constitution. The issue of rights from the body politic is subject to the Constitution, and it is illegitimate and a patent violation of equal protection to base any rights from any body politic within the United States, based on sexual proclivity.

    There is great irony in the notion of "same-sex marriage", which is inherent gender discrimination.   


    So when GLAAD criticized Obama for being silent on gay rights early in his administration, they were criticizing him for being a Christian?

     

     
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    WOW... I really don't intend to start another politcal topic on a sports forum especially when our 3 Boston major teams won  but Pumpsie lives in California as I do and I wonder his comment on my comments that follow.

    Does anyone wonder why California is going bankrupt !!! 
    It’s not if this economy collapses but when.  Because I’m going to be 75 this year, the good news is I’m probably not going to live long enough to see the disaster. 
     
    We are underfunded in almost every state, county and city in the U.S. with few exception like Texas, North Dakota and a couple of others. This infrastructure will implode. You already see it – Riverside, Vallejo, Stockton bankruptcies.  The life blood of reducing unemployment is the opening of many small businesses but Obamacare will prevent many from expanding and making new hires.  People are finding out that their health insurance premiums are going to double or worse. Our Medicare premiums will be higher and we will have trouble finding a doctor.  There will long waits for appointments, treatments denied.  As I said, and I’m not being selfish but just realistic and lucky I’m older, when I find Doctor who won’t accept Medicare, I have the VA medical services, Doctors, Labs, Xrays, MRIs, Audio, Physical Therapy & the  Hospital as a backup.


    When you add 20 million people to the system, most of whom will have to be subsidized, our medical system will be overwhelmed.  Obama, I believe,  really  miscaluculated on this and  Democrats like Nancy Pelosi went along.  They don’t have a clue.  And if amnesty gets through and we legalize 12million illegals who can vote, the Democrats will dominate every election and the Republican party is done for at least my remaining lifetime.
     
    Pension  payments to retirees in many parts of the country is sinking the public schools. They spend more $ on paying retirement benefits then they do educating the kids and it’s going to get worse before it turns around.
     
    It unfortunately could be that the federal government will eventually default on its obligations even at today’s low rates. I’m guessing interest rates will not go much higher in a long time because the government will go into debt even faster if it does.  I always wanted to live off my investments and keep the principal secure by earning a decent interest rate.  Alas, I’m dipping  into principal even to pay my Income Taxes, to fund vacation trips, purchase a new car etc.  I may do what Errol Flynn suggested, die with $10 K in your estate having enough to bury yourself & even having your last check bounce(HA!).


    Right now they pay very low rates to borrowers but to repay debt at even 3% would triple the debt service to do that.  We can’t service our debt right now at a federal funds rate of 25 basis points.
     
    Liberalism will be our downfall.

     




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    Pumpsie...I'm amazed you did not respond to my post above especially living in California although I believe our situation is pervasive in the whole US. You need not respond but in these forums some do "preaching to the choir" only but others differ with one's opinion and come back with a rebuttal, intelligent or not or at least for one's edification as it is one's opinion only. As you were in the healthcare industry, I respected your opinion below given to someone else and I feel, not only because of your professional insight, that as a patient, there is a lot of truth in it. I've copied and pasted this specific opinion   below. I was in the real estate industry and in transaction when a comment was made about a situation requiring a response( again, my post did not require a response from you but you have in the past just recently about the gay issue and we differed and that's fine too) which was a contingency that if it had no response, it meant the other party accepted its content. Is that so with my post ?

    From you responding to someone else:

    "I have a different perspective, I suspect, than you do about Obamacare. I have worked in the health care field all my professional life and I have seen that as it is currently constructed its not only a failure but a freight train coming straight at us. Sorry to hear that your healthcare bills have gone up that much; they never do go down, do they. Obamacare is an imperfect system, for sure. But its a start. What could NOT happen is that nothing be done and the healthcare system be allowed to continue on its current course. Everyone gets healthcare, one way or another. Its illegal for the ER to refuse service to any individual who happens to walk in. Its also illegal to transfer that patient to another facility. ER care is obscenely inefficient. Since the docs who work there see every kind of patient imaginable they are, unfortunately, not very good at any one specialty except for emergencies. You know who shows up in the ER? People with headaches, sore throats, earaches, leg pain etc etc-things that belong in the office based setting where the care is much more efficient. If you show up in an ER there is a high likelihood of unnecessary labs and XRays being ordered. This is not the case in the office setting. Days and weeks would go by between me ordering labs on my patients, but if they show up in the ER (where the uninsured get their care) you can bet that stuff will get ordered. If everyone had health care there is a better likelihood of people using their personal MD or NP. Money is saved that way. Furthermore, better care is provided. Obamacare is a start IMO, not an end product. It should be a work in progress. Something HAD to be done and after many many years of NOTHING getting passed by an inept Congress I am glad they got the ball rolling."

     

     
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    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     
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    In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:

    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?




    Republicans.

     

     
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    In response to LloydDobler's comment:

    In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:

     

    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?

     




    Republicans.

     

     



    REDpublicans.

     
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    REDpublicans.


    Good point. They don't call them "red states" for nothing.

     

     
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    In response to SFBostonFan's comment:

    In response to SFBostonFan's comment:

     

    WOW... I really don't intend to start another politcal topic on a sports forum especially when our 3 Boston major teams won  but Pumpsie lives in California as I do and I wonder his comment on my comments that follow.

    Does anyone wonder why California is going bankrupt !!! 
    It’s not if this economy collapses but when.  Because I’m going to be 75 this year, the good news is I’m probably not going to live long enough to see the disaster. 
     
    We are underfunded in almost every state, county and city in the U.S. with few exception like Texas, North Dakota and a couple of others. This infrastructure will implode. You already see it – Riverside, Vallejo, Stockton bankruptcies.  The life blood of reducing unemployment is the opening of many small businesses but Obamacare will prevent many from expanding and making new hires.  People are finding out that their health insurance premiums are going to double or worse. Our Medicare premiums will be higher and we will have trouble finding a doctor.  There will long waits for appointments, treatments denied.  As I said, and I’m not being selfish but just realistic and lucky I’m older, when I find Doctor who won’t accept Medicare, I have the VA medical services, Doctors, Labs, Xrays, MRIs, Audio, Physical Therapy & the  Hospital as a backup.


    When you add 20 million people to the system, most of whom will have to be subsidized, our medical system will be overwhelmed.  Obama, I believe,  really  miscaluculated on this and  Democrats like Nancy Pelosi went along.  They don’t have a clue.  And if amnesty gets through and we legalize 12million illegals who can vote, the Democrats will dominate every election and the Republican party is done for at least my remaining lifetime.
     
    Pension  payments to retirees in many parts of the country is sinking the public schools. They spend more $ on paying retirement benefits then they do educating the kids and it’s going to get worse before it turns around.
     
    It unfortunately could be that the federal government will eventually default on its obligations even at today’s low rates. I’m guessing interest rates will not go much higher in a long time because the government will go into debt even faster if it does.  I always wanted to live off my investments and keep the principal secure by earning a decent interest rate.  Alas, I’m dipping  into principal even to pay my Income Taxes, to fund vacation trips, purchase a new car etc.  I may do what Errol Flynn suggested, die with $10 K in your estate having enough to bury yourself & even having your last check bounce(HA!).


    Right now they pay very low rates to borrowers but to repay debt at even 3% would triple the debt service to do that.  We can’t service our debt right now at a federal funds rate of 25 basis points.
     
    Liberalism will be our downfall.

     




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    Pumpsie...I'm amazed you did not respond to my post above especially living in California although I believe our situation is pervasive in the whole US. You need not respond but in these forums some do "preaching to the choir" only but others differ with one's opinion and come back with a rebuttal, intelligent or not or at least for one's edification as it is one's opinion only. As you were in the healthcare industry, I respected your opinion below given to someone else and I feel, not only because of your professional insight, that as a patient, there is a lot of truth in it. I've copied and pasted this specific opinion   below. I was in the real estate industry and in transaction when a comment was made about a situation requiring a response( again, my post did not require a response from you but you have in the past just recently about the gay issue and we differed and that's fine too) which was a contingency that if it had no response, it meant the other party accepted its content. Is that so with my post ?

     

     




    No offense intended SF. The truth is that I do not read every post here. The longer ones I sometimes skip over, but its nothing personal.

    I do not believe the medical system will be overwhelmed when Obamacare really kicks in. I worked for Kaiser and they have had no trouble ramping up their staffing in anticipation of the start date-according to the Chairman of the Board of Directors who I know tangentially. If Kaiser can do it, other HMOs can also do it. Better use of physician extenders such as NPs and PAs will be necessary, and yes, some care will need to be rationed. We simply cannot afford to provide everything to everybody all the time. Medical care is just too expensive: its breaking the bank. My hope is that Obamacare as is currently written is subject to tweaking to make it better-not perfect, just better. Don't forget: the uninsured are already getting care in the ER and you know who is paying for that? You and me.

     

    Although California is in tough shape this year, the projections I have seen are rosier. In four years we are going to have a significant surplus, if the projections are right. We'll see. I do not share the same pessimistic viewpoint others here have of a government collapsing under its own weight. Its not going to be great, but you cannot have a group of citizens in a civlized society who do not have even a chance of success-IMO.

    And yes, the Republicans are doomed unless they become more inclusive-for exactly the reasons you cite. They didn't just lose the last election: they got killed. I admit I like the conservative financial policies they espouse, but on social issues, they stink. If they have any hope of winning elections of significance in the future they will need to become more inclusive. Sticking to the same outdated social policies is a prescription for failure for them.

    As for you having to dip into principal for living expenses: you are 75 years old! I like Errol Flynn's suggestion. The last thing you want to do is die rich!

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

    In response to SFBostonFan's comment:

     

    In response to SFBostonFan's comment:

     

    WOW... I really don't intend to start another politcal topic on a sports forum especially when our 3 Boston major teams won  but Pumpsie lives in California as I do and I wonder his comment on my comments that follow.

    Does anyone wonder why California is going bankrupt !!! 
    It’s not if this economy collapses but when.  Because I’m going to be 75 this year, the good news is I’m probably not going to live long enough to see the disaster. 
     
    We are underfunded in almost every state, county and city in the U.S. with few exception like Texas, North Dakota and a couple of others. This infrastructure will implode. You already see it – Riverside, Vallejo, Stockton bankruptcies.  The life blood of reducing unemployment is the opening of many small businesses but Obamacare will prevent many from expanding and making new hires.  People are finding out that their health insurance premiums are going to double or worse. Our Medicare premiums will be higher and we will have trouble finding a doctor.  There will long waits for appointments, treatments denied.  As I said, and I’m not being selfish but just realistic and lucky I’m older, when I find Doctor who won’t accept Medicare, I have the VA medical services, Doctors, Labs, Xrays, MRIs, Audio, Physical Therapy & the  Hospital as a backup.


    When you add 20 million people to the system, most of whom will have to be subsidized, our medical system will be overwhelmed.  Obama, I believe,  really  miscaluculated on this and  Democrats like Nancy Pelosi went along.  They don’t have a clue.  And if amnesty gets through and we legalize 12million illegals who can vote, the Democrats will dominate every election and the Republican party is done for at least my remaining lifetime.
     
    Pension  payments to retirees in many parts of the country is sinking the public schools. They spend more $ on paying retirement benefits then they do educating the kids and it’s going to get worse before it turns around.
     
    It unfortunately could be that the federal government will eventually default on its obligations even at today’s low rates. I’m guessing interest rates will not go much higher in a long time because the government will go into debt even faster if it does.  I always wanted to live off my investments and keep the principal secure by earning a decent interest rate.  Alas, I’m dipping  into principal even to pay my Income Taxes, to fund vacation trips, purchase a new car etc.  I may do what Errol Flynn suggested, die with $10 K in your estate having enough to bury yourself & even having your last check bounce(HA!).


    Right now they pay very low rates to borrowers but to repay debt at even 3% would triple the debt service to do that.  We can’t service our debt right now at a federal funds rate of 25 basis points.
     
    Liberalism will be our downfall.

     




    ==========================================

     

    Pumpsie...I'm amazed you did not respond to my post above especially living in California although I believe our situation is pervasive in the whole US. You need not respond but in these forums some do "preaching to the choir" only but others differ with one's opinion and come back with a rebuttal, intelligent or not or at least for one's edification as it is one's opinion only. As you were in the healthcare industry, I respected your opinion below given to someone else and I feel, not only because of your professional insight, that as a patient, there is a lot of truth in it. I've copied and pasted this specific opinion   below. I was in the real estate industry and in transaction when a comment was made about a situation requiring a response( again, my post did not require a response from you but you have in the past just recently about the gay issue and we differed and that's fine too) which was a contingency that if it had no response, it meant the other party accepted its content. Is that so with my post ?

     

     

     




    No offense intended SF. The truth is that I do not read every post here. The longer ones I sometimes skip over, but its nothing personal.

     

    I do not believe the medical system will be overwhelmed when Obamacare really kicks in. I worked for Kaiser and they have had no trouble ramping up their staffing in anticipation of the start date-according to the Chairman of the Board of Directors who I know tangentially. If Kaiser can do it, other HMOs can also do it. Better use of physician extenders such as NPs and PAs will be necessary, and yes, some care will need to be rationed. We simply cannot afford to provide everything to everybody all the time. Medical care is just too expensive: its breaking the bank. My hope is that Obamacare as is currently written is subject to tweaking to make it better-not perfect, just better. Don't forget: the uninsured are already getting care in the ER and you know who is paying for that? You and me.

     

    Although California is in tough shape this year, the projections I have seen are rosier. In four years we are going to have a significant surplus, if the projections are right. We'll see. I do not share the same pessimistic viewpoint others here have of a government collapsing under its own weight. Its not going to be great, but you cannot have a group of citizens in a civlized society who do not have even a chance of success-IMO.

    And yes, the Republicans are doomed unless they become more inclusive-for exactly the reasons you cite. They didn't just lose the last election: they got killed. I admit I like the conservative financial policies they espouse, but on social issues, they stink. If they have any hope of winning elections of significance in the future they will need to become more inclusive. Sticking to the same outdated social policies is a prescription for failure for them.

    As for you having to dip into principal for living expenses: you are 75 years old! I like Errol Flynn's suggestion. The last thing you want to do is die rich!



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    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

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    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

     

    Oh good, at least on the issue of lost respect for the high court we can agree.  For different reasons of course.  i lost the last modicum of respect I had for the Court in the 2000 election.

     

     



    That would be a BINGO except for the fact that they did the right thing with Obamacare. No need to debate this with Softy. It would be an endless endeavor. We will not change his mind; he will not change ours. I do believe that common decency and fairness are on our side however.

     




     

    Pump,

    How can somebody so right be so wrong? ;)  While you're right about most SOFT issues, Obamacare is a manifest cluster- _____________K!

    He said my healthcare bills would go down by $2500.00 / year?  They have easily increased by $2500.  If you don't already know that, you must have more money than you can count.  Way to defend the middle class Mr. Prez!

    Come on now Pump!  Try another tac!  This is a losing cause!

     




     

    RSDD, I have a different perspective, I suspect, than you do about Obamacare. I have worked in the health care field all my professional life and I have seen that as it is currently constructed its not only a failure but a freight train coming straight at us. Sorry to hear that your healthcare bills have gone up that much; they never do go down, do they. Obamacare is an imperfect system, for sure. But its a start. What could NOT happen is that nothing be done and the healthcare system be allowed to continue on its current course. Everyone gets healthcare, one way or another. Its illegal for the ER to refuse service to any individual who happens to walk in. Its also illegal to transfer that patient to another facility. ER care is obscenely inefficient. Since the docs who work there see every kind of patient imaginable they are, unfortunately, not very good at any one specialty except for emergencies. You know who shows up in the ER? People with headaches, sore throats, earaches, leg pain etc etc-things that belong in the office based setting where the care is much more efficient. If you show up in an ER there is a high likelihood of unnecessary labs and XRays being ordered. This is not the case in the office setting. Days and weeks would go by between me ordering labs on my patients, but if they show up in the ER (where the uninsured get their care) you can bet that stuff will get ordered. If everyone had health care there is a better likelihood of people using their personal MD or NP. Money is saved that way. Furthermore, better care is provided. Obamacare is a start IMO, not an end product. It should be a work in progress. Something HAD to be done and after many many years of NOTHING getting passed by an inept Congress I am glad they got the ball rolling.

     



    Our health insurance went through the roof because of obamacare.

     

    I worked in the healthcare system also.  Tell me where all the new doctors and nurses are coming from, what about hospital beds.

    Some countries in europe have socialized medicine and it's a mess.  Long waits for doctors visits, sometimes never seeing a doctor, forget about surgery, long waits for that also.

    In some countries the eldery are afraid to go to doctors because they are encourage to end their lives.  There is only so much care to go around so they need to make room for the young.

    One of the authors of obamacare is already concerned that it won't work.  Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes yet the supreme court called it a tax.  That's one heck of a tax hike.  This thing is going to be a miserable mess.  Just give it some time.



    There are nearly enough doctors already. There is a distribution problem. Physician extenders will need to be used. I have spoken to many Canadiens; their system is not perfect, but health care is available to everyone. That cannot be a bad thing. You are right: elective surgeries will take longer. There is only so many health care dollars to go around. The alternative is much worse.

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    I wasn't award that just under 52% of the national vote was "a blowout".

    Elections are turned by the fear that follows from actual economic disaster. The Democrat Party will get it handed to them, just a short time from their claims that the "Reublicans are going to be extinct unless they start copying the Democrat Party "reaching out with entitlments platform".



    The electoral college vote was a blowout.  It doesn't matter if you lose a game by 1 run or 20 - a win is a win and a loss is a loss. And Romney was the Houston Astros.

    Republicans are literally dying off - Romney won the over 70 vote by 26%.  Meanwhile, young voters are becoming more and more engaged. Republicans keep doubling down on idiocy and bigotry - unless they can pass some sort of Benjamin Button legislation, it's hard to see them competing in the near future.

     

     
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    In response to pumpsie-green's comment:

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    Oh good, at least on the issue of lost respect for the high court we can agree.  For different reasons of course.  i lost the last modicum of respect I had for the Court in the 2000 election.

     

     



    That would be a BINGO except for the fact that they did the right thing with Obamacare. No need to debate this with Softy. It would be an endless endeavor. We will not change his mind; he will not change ours. I do believe that common decency and fairness are on our side however.

     




     

    Pump,

    How can somebody so right be so wrong? ;)  While you're right about most SOFT issues, Obamacare is a manifest cluster- _____________K!

    He said my healthcare bills would go down by $2500.00 / year?  They have easily increased by $2500.  If you don't already know that, you must have more money than you can count.  Way to defend the middle class Mr. Prez!

    Come on now Pump!  Try another tac!  This is a losing cause!

     




     

    RSDD, I have a different perspective, I suspect, than you do about Obamacare. I have worked in the health care field all my professional life and I have seen that as it is currently constructed its not only a failure but a freight train coming straight at us. Sorry to hear that your healthcare bills have gone up that much; they never do go down, do they. Obamacare is an imperfect system, for sure. But its a start. What could NOT happen is that nothing be done and the healthcare system be allowed to continue on its current course. Everyone gets healthcare, one way or another. Its illegal for the ER to refuse service to any individual who happens to walk in. Its also illegal to transfer that patient to another facility. ER care is obscenely inefficient. Since the docs who work there see every kind of patient imaginable they are, unfortunately, not very good at any one specialty except for emergencies. You know who shows up in the ER? People with headaches, sore throats, earaches, leg pain etc etc-things that belong in the office based setting where the care is much more efficient. If you show up in an ER there is a high likelihood of unnecessary labs and XRays being ordered. This is not the case in the office setting. Days and weeks would go by between me ordering labs on my patients, but if they show up in the ER (where the uninsured get their care) you can bet that stuff will get ordered. If everyone had health care there is a better likelihood of people using their personal MD or NP. Money is saved that way. Furthermore, better care is provided. Obamacare is a start IMO, not an end product. It should be a work in progress. Something HAD to be done and after many many years of NOTHING getting passed by an inept Congress I am glad they got the ball rolling.

     



    Our health insurance went through the roof because of obamacare.

     

    I worked in the healthcare system also.  Tell me where all the new doctors and nurses are coming from, what about hospital beds.

    Some countries in europe have socialized medicine and it's a mess.  Long waits for doctors visits, sometimes never seeing a doctor, forget about surgery, long waits for that also.

    In some countries the eldery are afraid to go to doctors because they are encourage to end their lives.  There is only so much care to go around so they need to make room for the young.

    One of the authors of obamacare is already concerned that it won't work.  Obama said he wasn't going to raise taxes yet the supreme court called it a tax.  That's one heck of a tax hike.  This thing is going to be a miserable mess.  Just give it some time.



    There are nearly enough doctors already. There is a distribution problem. Physician extenders will need to be used. I have spoken to many Canadiens; their system is not perfect, but health care is available to everyone. That cannot be a bad thing. You are right: elective surgeries will take longer. There is only so many health care dollars to go around. The alternative is much worse.

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    I love the term physician extenders, you mean pa's and nurse practicioners, let's call a spade a spade.  I love how new terms are made up to hide bad news.

    It won't only be electiver surgery my friend, we won't have enough doctors or beds to do required surgery.  Those of us with a few years behind us will have to wait all the more.

     

    If the system in canada is so great why are there special hospitals set up along the canadian boarder to take care of canadians?  Why is england rethinking socialized medicine.

    What socialized medicine accomplishes is sub-standard medicine for all.  The only reason it works in mass is because the feds are giving them handouts to keep the state afloat.  We is going to do that for the country.  China?  Might as well, they own us and out children for the next 100 generations.

    If obama care is so great why are some politicians getting exemptions and why has obama given exemptions to his friends in labor.

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Republicans are literally dying off - Romney won the over 70 vote by 26%. Meanwhile, young voters are becoming more and more engaged. Republicans keep doubling down on idiocy and bigotry - unless they can pass some sort of Benjamin Button legislation, it's hard to see them competing in the near future.

    So, the question is, will you die off when the U.S. government defaults on the debt or devalues the currency, defaults on your Ward of the State benefits.

    Bigotry is pandering entitlments to federal group racial and ethnic and economic classes, which is the essence of the party that used to be the party of segragation.

    Justice will come in the form of a soup line, for young poeple intoxciated with the platform of the Democrat Party. No, it's not possible to perpetually pay debts by printing currency. No, it's not possible to provide housing, healthcare and food to over 100 million people who work part-time or don't work at all.  Even if Pelosi and Reid and Obama tell you that if you vote for them they will make sure you get what you feel all humanity should be entitled to.

     




    Your comment about printing money pretty much sums it all up.  Money is being printed and pumped into our economy at an alarming rate.  We owe so many trillions of dollars our great, great grandchildren will be paying off the debt.

    Why those who follow progressives don't understand that money really doesn't grow on trees and the piper will need to be paid at some point is beyond my understanding.

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

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    WOW... I really don't intend to start another politcal topic on a sports forum especially when our 3 Boston major teams won  but Pumpsie lives in California as I do and I wonder his comment on my comments that follow.

    Does anyone wonder why California is going bankrupt !!! 
    It’s not if this economy collapses but when.  Because I’m going to be 75 this year, the good news is I’m probably not going to live long enough to see the disaster. 
     
    We are underfunded in almost every state, county and city in the U.S. with few exception like Texas, North Dakota and a couple of others. This infrastructure will implode. You already see it – Riverside, Vallejo, Stockton bankruptcies.  The life blood of reducing unemployment is the opening of many small businesses but Obamacare will prevent many from expanding and making new hires.  People are finding out that their health insurance premiums are going to double or worse. Our Medicare premiums will be higher and we will have trouble finding a doctor.  There will long waits for appointments, treatments denied.  As I said, and I’m not being selfish but just realistic and lucky I’m older, when I find Doctor who won’t accept Medicare, I have the VA medical services, Doctors, Labs, Xrays, MRIs, Audio, Physical Therapy & the  Hospital as a backup.


    When you add 20 million people to the system, most of whom will have to be subsidized, our medical system will be overwhelmed.  Obama, I believe,  really  miscaluculated on this and  Democrats like Nancy Pelosi went along.  They don’t have a clue.  And if amnesty gets through and we legalize 12million illegals who can vote, the Democrats will dominate every election and the Republican party is done for at least my remaining lifetime.
     
    Pension  payments to retirees in many parts of the country is sinking the public schools. They spend more $ on paying retirement benefits then they do educating the kids and it’s going to get worse before it turns around.
     
    It unfortunately could be that the federal government will eventually default on its obligations even at today’s low rates. I’m guessing interest rates will not go much higher in a long time because the government will go into debt even faster if it does.  I always wanted to live off my investments and keep the principal secure by earning a decent interest rate.  Alas, I’m dipping  into principal even to pay my Income Taxes, to fund vacation trips, purchase a new car etc.  I may do what Errol Flynn suggested, die with $10 K in your estate having enough to bury yourself & even having your last check bounce(HA!).


    Right now they pay very low rates to borrowers but to repay debt at even 3% would triple the debt service to do that.  We can’t service our debt right now at a federal funds rate of 25 basis points.
     
    Liberalism will be our downfall.

     




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    Pumpsie...I'm amazed you did not respond to my post above especially living in California although I believe our situation is pervasive in the whole US. You need not respond but in these forums some do "preaching to the choir" only but others differ with one's opinion and come back with a rebuttal, intelligent or not or at least for one's edification as it is one's opinion only. As you were in the healthcare industry, I respected your opinion below given to someone else and I feel, not only because of your professional insight, that as a patient, there is a lot of truth in it. I've copied and pasted this specific opinion   below. I was in the real estate industry and in transaction when a comment was made about a situation requiring a response( again, my post did not require a response from you but you have in the past just recently about the gay issue and we differed and that's fine too) which was a contingency that if it had no response, it meant the other party accepted its content. Is that so with my post ?

     

     

     




    No offense intended SF. The truth is that I do not read every post here. The longer ones I sometimes skip over, but its nothing personal.

     

    I do not believe the medical system will be overwhelmed when Obamacare really kicks in. I worked for Kaiser and they have had no trouble ramping up their staffing in anticipation of the start date-according to the Chairman of the Board of Directors who I know tangentially. If Kaiser can do it, other HMOs can also do it. Better use of physician extenders such as NPs and PAs will be necessary, and yes, some care will need to be rationed. We simply cannot afford to provide everything to everybody all the time. Medical care is just too expensive: its breaking the bank. My hope is that Obamacare as is currently written is subject to tweaking to make it better-not perfect, just better. Don't forget: the uninsured are already getting care in the ER and you know who is paying for that? You and me.

     

    Although California is in tough shape this year, the projections I have seen are rosier. In four years we are going to have a significant surplus, if the projections are right. We'll see. I do not share the same pessimistic viewpoint others here have of a government collapsing under its own weight. Its not going to be great, but you cannot have a group of citizens in a civlized society who do not have even a chance of success-IMO.

    And yes, the Republicans are doomed unless they become more inclusive-for exactly the reasons you cite. They didn't just lose the last election: they got killed. I admit I like the conservative financial policies they espouse, but on social issues, they stink. If they have any hope of winning elections of significance in the future they will need to become more inclusive. Sticking to the same outdated social policies is a prescription for failure for them.

    As for you having to dip into principal for living expenses: you are 75 years old! I like Errol Flynn's suggestion. The last thing you want to do is die rich!

     




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    Pumpsie---thank you for a very insightful and intelligent response and most appreciated because of your professional background. And I am in agreement with much of your response. I joined the VA 10 years ago when I was 65 but only to get prescriptions at a reduced co-pay. As I have had a relationship with Doctors some for over 30 years I've kept it and had Blue Shield paying 80% and me 20% prior to medicare. But now on Medicare and with a supplement plan, my medical costs are paid 100%. Here's what is going to happen, however, as some of my 30 year relation Doctors are in their 80s and near retirement.  Finding new Doctors might not be easy as many will not accept Medicare. Also, many Doctors can't sell their patient lists as younger doctors don't want to deal with office costs, secretaries, answering services and most, important, malpractice suits. Just 10 years ago at the VA, which is like an HMO, bright young doctors would stay 6 months and do their residency/intership & then want to move on to private practice. My last 2 doctors at the VA are in their late 20s and are Yale & Harvard grads who tell me they are happy to make a career at the VA &, albeit, may not make as much as a Beverly Hills doctor, but don't want to deal with reduction in Medicare reimbursements, office costs, malpractice & all the paperwork. Many of my Vet friends liked to stay with their Doctors outside the VA but I now have gone to their ER room, have had Lab work, Xrays, MRIs & hearing tests and free hearing aids and I'm very happy with the service. When my doctors retire, I'm probably going to the VA 100%. Don't know if you know but they have a relationship with UCSF if a patient needs specialized treatment & UCSF Doctors are on call for such. Anyway, I got off on a tangent here "mea culpa" and for me Obamacare is not a factor whether I favor it or not.  


    I end by saying as I do with many Liberal friends with whom I disagree, remember we are all Americans and I say too, irrespective of opinion differences, we, or most of us here, are Boston team fans !

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    I wasn't aware that just under 52% of the national vote was "a blowout".

    Elections are turned by the fear that follows from actual economic disaster. The Democrat Party will get it handed to them, just a short time from their claims that the "Reublicans are going to be extinct unless they start copying the Democrat Party "reaching out with entitlments platform".



    Don't hold your breath

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to SpacemanEephus' comment:

    I am confused.  If Obama is a Marxist because of his health care reform policy and his tax policy, what does that make Ronald Reagan, or Richard Nixon?




    What's your point?  Obama wants to distribute the wealth, level the playing field.  I never heard reagan or nixon talk that way.  Go on youtube and listen to obama talk about one world governance and how one country shouldn't be above another.

    Obama went around the world to apologize and bow down to other leaders.  I can't in my wildest dreams picture reagan doing that.

    Obama feels that people should be only so wealthy, there should be a limit.  Obama is a very rich man, I guess it's ok for him but not for others.

    There is a large increase of people using the government to pay for there needs.  More people on food stamps now than in any other time in our country.  If obama is doing such a great job fixing the economy why so many on the government dole.

    I'll tell you why. Obama wants people to depend on government handouts because those same people keep him in office. Almost 50% of our country doesn't pay income tax.  I sure would vote for a man who didn't ask a dime from me but gives me loads of other peoples money. My money.

    If this isn't socialism in the making then what it.  Reagan was so far from this it's not even funny.  Our country was far better off under reagan.

    You all are having a great time putting down christians and republians right now.  But when the whole country looks like greece or california you won't be laughing.

    Maybe some of you feel it's not your problem because you are older, what about your children and grandchildren.  Obama has added more debt than all the presidents up to w combined with no end in sight. Trillions after trillion of dollors on your children's shoulders. For all of you to take this so lightly is a disgrace.  Don't you care what will happen to your children and grandchildren.  Arn't you worried that this massive outlandish debt is going to destroy their country.

    No, you think this is all so funny, poor old republicans, pathetic christians, while your progressives are piling on massive debts for our kids.  Keep up with your social programs, give people free stuff cradle to grave.  You will not be happy with the results.  If you're not alive to see the results of your folly your children and grandchildren will be.  Shame on all of you.

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    According to your post, it sounds like Keynes & Galbraith were wrong then; I'll pass on that notion.

    Keynes and Galbraith didn't stand for current federal fiscal policy. But, let's assume they would applaud it. When the U.S. Dollar is no longer the world reserve currency (already there have been Nations who are starting to use other currency units) then you will feel a bullet strike you right between your eyes, as the dollar will then be devalued despite the US Treasurey crook who claims it won't be. History shows exactly what happens when a body politic prints money to pay debts it can't pay, otherwise.



    Except this didn't happen yet; this is called making a point based on a wishful ivory tower.

     
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    Re: Jason Collins

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    I wasn't award that just under 52% of the national vote was "a blowout".

    Elections are turned by the fear that follows from actual economic disaster. The Democrat Party will get it handed to them, just a short time from their claims that the "Reublicans are going to be extinct unless they start copying the Democrat Party "reaching out with entitlments platform".

     



    The electoral college vote was a blowout.  It doesn't matter if you lose a game by 1 run or 20 - a win is a win and a loss is a loss. And Romney was the Houston Astros.

     

    Republicans are literally dying off - Romney won the over 70 vote by 26%.  Meanwhile, young voters are becoming more and more engaged. Republicans keep doubling down on idiocy and bigotry - unless they can pass some sort of Benjamin Button legislation, it's hard to see them competing in the near future.

     



    Eventually, the fringe shall learn to keep their Wingnut mouths shut, which shall mitigate some of the damage

     
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