JBJ being sent down

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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to Bill-806's comment:

    Big Mistake !!!!



    Yup, its a mistake to send down a guy who's hitting below the mendoza line and has been obviously(Not to you though) over matched.

     
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    Double post.

     
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    This was a slamdunk.  He was a prospect promoted to take over for an injured player.  When the injured returns, prospect returns to his normal gig.  This shouldn't be causing such a meltdown.

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to Bill-806's comment:

    Big Mistake !!!!



    Care to elaborate?  Do you know what elaborate means?

     
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    He was a prospect promoted to take over for an injured player. When the injured returns, prospect returns to his normal gig.

    Joe, earth to Joe! Bradley wasn't promoted to take over for an injured player. In fact, he started in LF instead of Gomes or Nava. Those two are the ones who took over for the injured DH player. When Ortiz returns, the decision is who to remove from the active roster. They chose to bean count and demote Bradley with an option because that their original plan was not bean count Bradley in the minors until later in the season.

    They could have:

    DFA Carp (and now that Nava has proven to be a more versatile option and Carp has a tiny sample that looks good they could and should have traded Carp, let him go through waivers, or since it's early and few teams have injuries and needs this early they might have been able to get Carp through waivers and send him back to AAA)

    Bradley would then start and provide the best defense with Gomes to start v. LP  until Bradley adjusts and Gomes would pinch hit for Bradley, while Nava would play backup 1st and also pinch hit for Gomes when he starts or come in to pinch hit and the situation goes back to that slot v. RP.

    In other words, instead of the bum Carp, you have Gomes and Carp in the regular use bench roles. It's not likely that Ortiz is going to be productive for the rest of the season, so I do not see any valid reason to change the roles that were used for the first few weeks.

    Right now, managment should be planning on writing down Drew's contract when he starts slugging past girls softball league, then recall Iglesias and forget Bogearts as the future SS plan.

    They should also begin the process of having Ellsbury play LF v. RP starters and put Bradley in CF. This is the best defensive lineup and also begins the important process of Bradley getting MLB experience as the Red Sox permanent CF'er of the future.

    Bradley brings defense, enthusiasm and a lot of talent to the Red Sox. Carp does not. And if managment likes Carp so much, they should simply option Nava back to AAA until Ortiz goes back on the shelf.  



    Alright let's try this: Do you think Bradley is struggling?

     
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    This is the right move. He was struggling and looked very uncomfortable at the plate. He will be fine, this isn't mismanagement by any means. 

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    He was a prospect promoted to take over for an injured player. When the injured returns, prospect returns to his normal gig.

    Joe, earth to Joe! Bradley wasn't promoted to take over for an injured player. In fact, he started in LF instead of Gomes or Nava. Those two are the ones who took over for the injured DH player. When Ortiz returns, the decision is who to remove from the active roster. They chose to bean count and demote Bradley with an option because that their original plan was not bean count Bradley in the minors until later in the season.

    They could have:

    DFA Carp (and now that Nava has proven to be a more versatile option and Carp has a tiny sample that looks good they could and should have traded Carp, let him go through waivers, or since it's early and few teams have injuries and needs this early they might have been able to get Carp through waivers and send him back to AAA)

    Bradley would then start and provide the best defense with Gomes to start v. LP  until Bradley adjusts and Gomes would pinch hit for Bradley, while Nava would play backup 1st and also pinch hit for Gomes when he starts or come in to pinch hit and the situation goes back to that slot v. RP.

    In other words, instead of the bum Carp, you have Gomes and Carp in the regular use bench roles. It's not likely that Ortiz is going to be productive for the rest of the season, so I do not see any valid reason to change the roles that were used for the first few weeks.

    Right now, managment should be planning on writing down Drew's contract when he starts slugging past girls softball league, then recall Iglesias and forget Bogearts as the future SS plan.

    They should also begin the process of having Ellsbury play LF v. RP starters and put Bradley in CF. This is the best defensive lineup and also begins the important process of Bradley getting MLB experience as the Red Sox permanent CF'er of the future.

    Bradley brings defense, enthusiasm and a lot of talent to the Red Sox. Carp does not. And if managment likes Carp so much, they should simply option Nava back to AAA until Ortiz goes back on the shelf.  



     Carp, the guy you call "Dumpster profile" has just as many hits in 1/3 of the At-bats as Bradley. You have seriously gone off the deep end with your Man Love for JBJ softy. Let the kid go down and Work on some things. Its pretty obvious that we can win with or without JBJ.

     
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    But but but but JBJ has "talent". Many players with talent never make it to the big leagues. It takes more than talent to succeed. His performance merits his demotion. Quite simple. 

    But but but but his OBP is .263....uh, never mind.

     
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    I wouldnt be surprised if it took less than a month for Nava to cool down, Carp to show who he is, and JBJ to find his timing in Pawtucket.

    If this happens, he should be recalled immediately.  The important thing is for the Sox to not hold this against him.  If Nava cools off and Carp isnt hitting, and JBJ is lacing the ball (2 weeks from now), JBJ should be called back up immediately.

    I dont want to hear: I dont care that he's hitting .310 in Pawtucket, he was here 2 weeks ago and struggled, clearly he needs more time.

    Ride the hot bat.  Id like to see Nava and JBJ go up and down all season.  The one in Boston should be the hotter of the two.  Right now that's Nava.  If that changes and Bradley remains in Pawtucket for "player development" then the Sox are certainly putting too much stock into a small sample size.

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Alright let's try this: Do you think Bradley is struggling?

    Alright, let's try this" Do you think S. Drew is struggling?



    Classic softy bait and switch.

     

    Those of us who said JBj should start in AAA for 9 games have certainly not been proven wrong. We'd have another year of JBJ, guys like Gomes and Nava, who have some of our highest OBP numbers would have more PAs, and maybe JBJ might be in a better spot right now.

     

    Cue: more diversionary tactics.

     
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    They should also begin the process of having Ellsbury play LF v. RP starters and put Bradley in CF. This is the best defensive lineup and also begins the important process of Bradley getting MLB experience as the Red Sox permanent CF'er of the future.

    Flip- Flop.

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    Alright let's try this: Do you think Bradley is struggling?

    Alright, let's try this" Do you think S. Drew is struggling?



    Lets stay on topic you are acting like a 10 year old with ADHD. Is Bradley struggling? 

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

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    They should also begin the process of having Ellsbury play LF v. RP starters and put Bradley in CF. This is the best defensive lineup and also begins the important process of Bradley getting MLB experience as the Red Sox permanent CF'er of the future.

    Flip- Flop.

    His attack on Ellsbury is the last grasp of a sad man who is losing.

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to Drewski5's comment:

    I wouldnt be surprised if it took less than a month for Nava to cool down, Carp to show who he is, and JBJ to find his timing in Pawtucket.

    If this happens, he should be recalled immediately.  The important thing is for the Sox to not hold this against him.  If Nava cools off and Carp isnt hitting, and JBJ is lacing the ball (2 weeks from now), JBJ should be called back up immediately.

    I dont want to hear: I dont care that he's hitting .310 in Pawtucket, he was here 2 weeks ago and struggled, clearly he needs more time.

    Ride the hot bat.  Id like to see Nava and JBJ go up and down all season.  The one in Boston should be the hotter of the two.  Right now that's Nava.  If that changes and Bradley remains in Pawtucket for "player development" then the Sox are certainly putting too much stock into a small sample size.



    Thats just not smart management bro, sorry.

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    In response to softlaw2's comment:

    But but but but JBJ has "talent". Many players with talent never make it to the big leagues. It takes more than talent to succeed. His performance merits his demotion. Quite simple.

    I agree, S. Drew's performance merits his expulsion, and big hop Ellsbury should be moved to the bottom of the lineup and moved to LF.

    But but but but his OBP is .263....uh, never mind.

    But but but but his OBP as our leadoff hitter is .309......uh, never mind.

    Anyone seen starting slugging SS S. Drew's OBP?   Uh, uh, uh, never mind.



    Drew and Ellsbury have a track record that proves they belong at the major league level. JBJ does not. He has to earn it, just as those other two earned it. No free passes. He is being treated the same as any rookie should be.

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

     

    They should also begin the process of having Ellsbury play LF v. RP starters and put Bradley in CF. This is the best defensive lineup and also begins the important process of Bradley getting MLB experience as the Red Sox permanent CF'er of the future.

    Flip- Flop.

     

     

    His attack on Ellsbury is the last grasp of a sad man who is losing.




    or one that hasnt realized he has already lost....

     
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    Re: JBJ being sent down

    It's not within his mental capacity to comprehend being wrong.

     
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    It's not within his mental capacity to comprehend being wrong.




    I dont think you can even use JBJ's defense as an arguing point. It has been less than stellar. Besides that good catch in NY, hes made an error, misjudged diving for a ball that he shouldnt have (which got by him) and threw a ball home when there was no play, allowing another runner to get into scoring position. Should have got to 2nd with the throw. Rookie mistakes that I would rather happen in AAA along with other things most prospects should work on. hes ALMOST ready for the big show and will be a solid CF's and all around ballplayer after some more seasoning.

     
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