In response to redsoxdirtdog's comment:
In response to ctredsoxfanhugh's comment:
I actually think JBJ will be a polarizing figure here in Boston. First of all, there will always be a certain percentage of the fan base who expects the team to have an above average player at every position, and will compare JBJ to Ellsbury's production. Ellsbury was one of the better hitters in the league let alone CFer's.
JBJ is also going to be the kind of player that does all the little things that don't show up on the stat-sheet. He's the guy who sees the outfielder mis play a ball so he stretches a single into a double, the guy who works 12-13 pitch at bats etc etc. He won't excel anywhere but he will do everything decently and his defense will be his true plus plus tool.
To me...that is a very good player who can start on a first division team. But there will be those who expect so much more out of him and never appreciate those things. Oh well.....*I'm already a JBJ fan and I think he is going to be a great player.
Really? We sure didn't see too many 12 - 13 pitch at bats last year, & we won't see many for quite some time if he can't learn to pick up the breaking ball cutting inside & low from a major league pitcher.
Seriously.... Some of you are reaching way too far. I love the kid, but we better plan on being VERY PATIENT. Could he come out hitting, with great plate discipline right from the get go? Sure. Is it likely. No! Will he likely struggle........ for god knows how long? Probably.
Will he likely be a good mlb hitter? I think so, but right now the mlb dust bins are littered with guys who were excellent hitters in the minors, but never could make the leap. Do I think this happens with JBJ? NO! I think he'll do just fine, but it will VERY LIKELY take several years of rocky roads.
As for the rediculous OP asserting that JBJ "is a defensive upgrade." Ignorant! Rediculous! Reaching! Hope against hope! The kid has not proven a single thing yet, & looked out of place last year when called up in CF. Ells, ASIDE FROM BEING ARMED WITH MY AUNTS ARM, is one of the best in the business!!!! PERIOD! His speed & field knowledge make up for a world of faults. As far as him costing us extra bases??? Please! It simply never happened. Were there the rare occasions where a guy was able to go from 1st to third because of his WEAK SISTER arm? Yep! Sorry, it was negligible at best. The rest of his defensive game was top of the league.
To even think about putting a completely unproven kid, who would be absolutely wet behind the ears if he had ever even seen the water, above Ells, is beyond absurd. WAY Beyond absurd!
Yes guys. We're all going to miss Ells........ but, that's simply not a good enough reason to REACH & start the campaign to induct JBJ into the coming mlb Hall of Fame.
Let's hope the folks pushing for the premature HOF vote have patience when things get rocky. I'm good with the kid knowing that it may not be pretty til year 2 or 3.
Don't you think it's a little over the top to suggest that I'm suggesting people are already electing him to the hall of fame? because we are not.
And people are putting his DEFENSE above ells, not his total package...and FWIW...EVERYONE is doing that.
You can only predict how a guy will hit at the MLB level with a small level of certainty and I agree that even though I think he will be a good player he still may have some adversity to endure
But You can tell how a guys defense will play in single A. A line drive is a line drive etc etc etc and just about every person in the scouting community puts JBJ defense as some of the best they have ever seen.