Re: JD Drew v Alfonso Soriano
posted at 5/5/2011 8:22 PM EDT
In Response to JD Drew v Alfonso Soriano
[QUOTE]Why these two? In my preseason list of 40ish players I'd take for this season over Drew (that number has gone WAY up, by the way), he garnered the most attention. I was considered foolish to not consider Drew in my top 40 OFers to begin with, but Soriano brought me extra special ridicule. Anyone like to change their opinion now? At this point, Drew's not even really the starter, so we'll begin right there, though it shouldn't be a surprise...he's hitting .231 with ONE HR and 5 rbi! Oh, I know, all you sabermetricians will point to his .341 OBP as some savior stat...that wonderful OBP has led to all of 9 runs scored. Whoop. E. Soriano? Nothing fantastic, though I never expected anything outrageous. Would I rather his .257, 11 HR, 21 RBi and 17 runs? Who wouldn't?! Even with his 29 Ks...which must be a lot more than Drew's...oh, he's at 22...in 31 less at bats. And again, as was my original point, I would pay Soriano the 4 mil more for this year than Drew is getting. Oh, but what do I expect, people to own up to their own ignorance? I won't hold my breath...I almost think people would go so far as to create an exclusive forum rather than have a real discussion.
Posted by ma6dragon9[/QUOTE]
Own up to their own ignorance?
As someone who questioned your tactics, I cannot help but notice you only defend yourself on ONE name out of a list of about 40 outfielders. And naturally, you insist it was the one that brought the most questions. Actually, in all of my comments, I questioned the inclusion of Soriano AND Raul Ibanez together, but you seem to have suddenly forgotten about that other player, much like Phillies’ management
Drew stands before Thursday game with a .222/.300/.556 split for an .856 OPS
Before you go slapping a prophet label on yourself, I’d like to remind you that I questioned you on ALL of the following players on YOUR list, among others:
Raul Ibanez (.192 / .266 / .293)
Rajai Davis (.196 / .241 / .255)
Austin Jackson (.190 / .258 / .281)
David DeJesus (.240 / .313 / .330)
Adam Jones (.248 / .288 / .426)
Angel Pagan (.159 / .249 / .156)
Torii Hunter (.246 / .319 / .377)
Carlos Lee (.207 / .248 / .360)
Ryan Ludwick (.215 / .306 / .393)
Corey Hart (.174 / .174 / .174)
Not one OPS even close to .856. Heck, only one over .700.
Now some of these players (Hart, Pagan, Davis, for example) have missed substantial time on the DL, but then one of the criticisms you had of Drew was his fragility. Not holding it against them as well would be a double standard.
In fact, that is all the original list was, was a list of double standards and rationalizations. You would state you wanted age-free criteria, but then choose players for being younger. Batting average here, runs scored there. Always singling out one statistic when it worked for any player. It was really kind of sad, actually. It looked more like a vendetta than any sort of actual analysis.
So maybe clinging to one of your small victories, and prematurely at that, might not place you in the light you think it does. After all, if the season to date is the deciding factor, apparently Darwin Barney is a better second baseman than Dustin Pedroia.
Naturally, you don’t like OPS and prefer batting average pr whatever stat supports your arguement at the time. Well on these outfielders, you missed completely. 1 for 11 (.092) is not a time to start bragging…