It's pretty clear that most on here feel that hiring Farrell would be a mistake but you watch, once the deal is done with the Jays, the optimism and defense of Cherington will flow. Those previously opposed will remarkably be on board.

In response to dgalehouse's comment:

exactly exam. It was exicution of pitches. It just gets me that some folks here talk with nothing to back up their claim. If Lester is hitting a consistant 94-96 on the gun all year, then how is his velocity going down. Also, the kid is 28yrs old. He hardly "breaking down" like some suggest.

How soon do people forget that the 4 years prior to 2012 Lester went 65-32 with a sub 3.50ERA and was in the CY Young talks. All this in the AL East...He had a bad year people. It happens...

In response to smuldy84's comment:

I understand your chemo point and it is valid...I look at pitchfx as well, but I also watch the gun speed on tv as well. He didnt have command of his FB a lot this year, so he used the change more. That could make his velocity look lower.

Either way, when he did throw the FB it was a constant 94-96 as usual. I honestly think he just had a down year and will be back to himself in 2013.

Just heard on CSNNE from McAdam that Barnes would be fair compensation for Farrell...no thanks...I'll take Ausmus

In response to TitleTown11's comment:

Barnes?  Ludicrous.  If that happens I will join forces with the Cherington haters here to bring him down.

Agreed HFXSN...I'll be you're second in command

 

In response to TitleTown11's comment:

Consider me part of the Cherrington haters as well if he gives up Barnes. MacAdam is an idiot if he really thinks that is fair.

Boston holds all the cards here. If Farrell stays, Toronto already knows it will be a mess and the players know he will be gone next year anyway. That and the fan realize Farrell would rather be in Boston. It would be a nightmare all the way around. Boston should saythey can have Zach Stewert and be done with it.

In response to TitleTown11's comment:

Hopefully,Cherington (and Lucchino) are smarter than this,but you can never tell.If it happens,Ill join the Cherington haters club too.

Why do we classify ourselves or others as "haters" if we don't like someone? Can't we just say "I do not care for him or her" or "I don't like them" ??

 

 

We could, but thats basically what the term "hater" means...Not actually hating someone in the true meaning of the word.

giving up barnes for farrell would be an absolute joke. If theo epstein who is far more valauble and accomplish than farrell on nets chris carpenter, then farrell should net even less than that. not to mention that many people are saying that alot of people in the jays organization want him gone. toronto has pretty much no leverage. 

In response to TitleTown11's comment:

If that happens I'll be burning Cherington in effigy and joining the softlaw anti Cherry bandwagon.

In response to Alibiike's comment:

That depends. If we don't give up any prospects I'd be willing to give Farrell the same chance I gave BV who I also didn't want to see as manager of my Sox. If we give the Jays anything beyond say, Williams Jerez it goes on Ben's report card as a big black mark.

I say we just give them back Zach Stewert

I see the same thing happening with Farrell as with Valentine. He will get no respect. After June people will be calling for his head. What has Farrell done with Toronto? got them into 4th place again ahead of the Red Sox. I would like to see the Sox take a chance with Pena or Ausmus. This love affir got to stop. Having to give up prospect(s) for him. no thanks. I seiously think this front office got to go. I like managers that were formerly catchers. for example the success in Oakland with Bob Melvin or St. Louis with Mike Matheny. If they are trying to get Farrell why waste time in interviewing. I can see the winter meetings are going to be a joke.  

In response to Alibiike's comment:

 +1

In response to Alibiike's comment:

try not to speak for everybody. it requires knowing what is in a person's mind.

i, for one, am highly opposed to hiring farell and will not praise cherry and will not be on board.

PLEASE, NO FARRELL.

i posted good riddance 2 years ago when the SOX dumped him. what is this fatal attraction by the FO for this last place manager? 

In response to mryazz's comment:

Im with you in not signing Farrell. If they do though, I will obviously hope he does well. Complaining about it will do not good, so Ill try and do my best not to if it happens...

Perhaps this is all a smokescreen planted by BenC to get the fans commenting about the supposed "mancrush" with JF--while giving Ben a chance to zero in on the candidate he wants.

I believe it's the Fans Choice Tony Pena. He had to wait until after the Playoff game last night--hopefully he is negotiating now and Pena probably needed time to tell his family, Girardi and Yankee Management of the decision. I would say the announcement will be made Monday with a press conference.

Too simplistic??? JF will get a contract extension this afternoon or the trade will be announced and Pena will be announced as the new Jays coach.  Who really knows but Ben what's going on.

Honestly, Id rather have Ausmus or Wallach before Pena...But I certainly would not complain one bit if he was hired...

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In response to pinstripezac's comment:

What? Where did you fan590 did you hear that?

Everywhere I look Red Sox fans are unanimous, they are going to be irate if we give up a prospect like De La Rosa for Farrell.

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In response to pinstripezac's comment:

Can you paste a link?