Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

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    Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    2011 September ERA:

    Shields   2.68
    Hellickson   2.28
    Price    3.03

    Sabathia   3.08
    Nova   2.67

    Weaver  3.15
    Haren   3.25

    Lee   1.42
    Halladay   1.70
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    I think its pretty obvious, I HOPE, that the sox do not have a true Ace. All those guys you listed up there, besides Hellickson and Nova, consistantly get into the and beyond the 7th inning. Even at their best, Lester and Beckett have issues going further then the 6th.
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    Those are telling numbers Tom.
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    So where are all the Lester supportors now?

    The ones who jump down my throat when I say he isn't an ace?

    Or the Beckett contract supporter lovers who get in my face when I yelled at Theo for giving him an extension?

    Beckett Almost proved me wrong and I was thrilled with that.  Almost......

    And Johnny "Chokes"?  Well, get ready to run and duck for cover IF he is given the ball IF there is a Thursday Playoff Game.
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    So where are all the Lester supportors now? The ones who jump down my throat when I say he isn't an ace? Or the Beckett contract supporter lovers who get in my face when I yelled at Theo for giving him an extension? Beckett Almost proved me wrong and I was thrilled with that.  Almost...... And Johnny "Chokes"?  Well, get ready to run and duck for cover IF he is given the ball IF there is a Thursday Playoff Game.
    Posted by andrewmitch[/QUOTE]

    Easy Tiger.

    Lester has a 2.57 ERA in 8 post-season games. 

    He put up 2.97 home ERA 2008 - 2010, which is awesome as a lefty.

     
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    Ah here we go again w/ Lesters PS ERA

    ERA = as in AVERAGE = as in can be very misleading as in does not iterate CONSISTENCY NOR RECENCY

    that goes back 5 years.

    the first 4 games he pitched well

    His ERA in 2008 (ALCS) and 2009 (ALDS) PS starts is FIVE

    FIVE

    that his last 2 post season series

    Did you miss Game 3 of the 2008 ALCS?

    He kept putting the ball into Longoria and Upton's wheelhouse - tell you what - let's wait and see if Johnny-Chokes get a rematch on Thursday and then we'll know our answer........Are you ready for that?
     
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    In Response to Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts:
    Ah here we go again w/ Lesters PS ERA ERA = as in AVERAGE = as in can be very misleading as in does not iterate CONSISTENCY NOR RECENCY that goes back 5 years. the first 4 games he pitched well His ERA in 2008 and 2009 PS starts is FIVE FIVE Did you miss Game 3 of the 2008 ALCS? He kept putting the ball into Longoria and Upton's wheelhouse - tell you what - let's wait and see if Johnny-Chokes get a rematch on Thursday and then we'll know our answer........Are you ready for that?
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Only problem is that Lester is pitching tomorrow. Just saying.
     
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    Is that 100% certain?  I thought it wasn't decided?

    Well, there is always the immortal Andino (guy is 10X less a hitter than Bucky Dent ever was) to take him deep......

     
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    At least thats what is reported today. I agree, I want to throw up everytime Andino gets a big hit...which these days is every game against the Sox.
     
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    In Response to Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts:
    2011 September ERA: Shields   2.68 Hellickson   2.28 Price    3.03 Sabathia   3.08 Nova   2.67 Weaver  3.15 Haren   3.25 Lee   1.42 Halladay   1.70
    Posted by tom-uk


    Makes it pretty clear that NONE of the Sox pitchers have earned their keep this year, and that therefore as a team, they do not deserve a postseason. Sad. But if I were an owner, with that payroll, and I failed to make the playoffs two years in a row, I would definitely fire the manager.
     
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    How this for an classic ending

    Sox and Rays win tonight

    Tomorrow night the Rays win before the Sox game is over

    Sox are down by 1 w/ Ellsbury on 2b.........Ortiz up.......2 men out.......and Kevin Gregg comes trolling out to the hill.............Gets Ortiz on 3 pitches.  Season Over.......Ortiz's last AB in a Sox uni.........Cowboy Up?  More like Crash and Burn........
     
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    In Response to Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts:
    2011 September ERA: Shields   2.68 Hellickson   2.28 Price    3.03 Sabathia   3.08 Nova   2.67 Weaver  3.15 Haren   3.25 Lee   1.42 Halladay   1.70
    Posted by tom-uk



    Now tell us what the above pitchers average innings per start is, I bet its more than 6.

    By the way you left out Verlander/Fister.
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    Cleary both are key reasons we're in the position we're in. they both help lead us to the 9 game lead and they're both culprits in our demise...The sting of 2011 won't soon go away and although we're still in it...we're not among the best teams in the AL today...

    That said, I'll continue to pull for the Sox and root for the Rays to implode tonight...If for no other reason than to end Maddon year...
     
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    With all the other pitching disasters, if these 2 couild have stepped up a couple times in the last month the Red Sox would be getting ready for the play-offs.

    Just goes to show this epic collapse is on each and every member of this team.
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    1 more win in April

    One less Wakefield start

    One less LOB

    who knows, we may not be in this boat

    I think the season can be summed up best by Johnny-Chokes:  "I don't care about games in April" - and there you have the season folks.  It was over at the same exact time it started. 
     
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    Ah here we go again w/ Lesters PS ERA

    ERA = as in AVERAGE = as in can be very misleading as in does not iterate CONSISTENCY NOR RECENCY

    tha
    His ERA in 2008 and 2009 PS starts is FIVE

    FIVE

    5 ???

    2008 PO  ERA  2.36
    1.  7 in  0 ER
    2. 7 in 0 ER
    3.  5.2 in  4 ER
    4.   7 in  3 ER

    2009 PO  ERA  4.50
    1.  6 in  3 ER

    ERA combined  2.76
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    200824BOSALALCSLTBR02.0004.9722000012.2148732015000531.2639.92.11.410.77.50
    200925BOSALALDSLLAA01.0004.501100006.04331405000281.3336.01.56.07.51.25

    Source:

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/l/lestejo01.shtml

    What is the aggregate of giving up 10 ER's over 18 2/3 IP?

    Answer:  4.82, or approximately FIVE

    Look at RECENCY - the 2008 ALCS and the 2009 ALDS - the most RECENT 2 PS series, look at this September, open your eyes, you will see Johnny-Chokes for what he really is.
     
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    In Response to Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts:
    1 more win in April One less Wakefield start One less LOB who knows, we may not be in this boat
    Posted by andrewmitch


    Ultimate cop out.  Every team can look back and find a few games they should have won. 
     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    me copping out?

    besides, do you think Toronto or Cleveland or the A's are sitting around this week saying "golly gee if we just one that game back when we'd be in the playoffs"?

    Sox will lose out by 1 game

    that equates one bunt that wasn't laid down......or one pitcher left in too long....or one whatever..........

     
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    In Response to Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts:
    me copping out? besides, do you think Toronto or Cleveland or the A's are sitting around this week saying "golly gee if we just one that game back when we'd be in the playoffs"? Sox will lose out by 1 game that equates one bunt that wasn't laid down......or one pitcher left in too long....or one whatever..........
    Posted by andrewmitch


    And if TB had laid down one more bunt, not left one pitcher in too long, or whatever..... then they'd already be up a game or 2 and the Sox would be done.  You think  the Angels, Braves, Cardinals don't all have a few games they'd like to have to back.

    It is the ultimate in myopic thinking and thus the ultimate cop out.  All these teams have know the importance of all their games, especially all the ones during the last 2-3 weeks.  One team doesn't get to have the market cornered on regretful outcomes and missed opportunities. 
     
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    In Response to Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts:
    In Response to Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts : And if TB had laid down one more bunt, not left one pitcher in too long, or whatever..... then they'd already be up a game or 2 and the Sox would be done.  You think  the Angels, Braves, Cardinals don't all have a few games they'd like to have to back. It is the ultimate in myopic thinking and thus the ultimate cop out.  All these teams have know the importance of all their games, especially all the ones during the last 2-3 weeks.  One team doesn't get to have the market cornered on regretful outcomes and missed opportunities. 
    Posted by Thesemenarecowards
    A realistic perspective.

     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    Not saying that's not true but it certainly is different when you watch a 9 game lead evaporate. 

     
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    Re: Josh Beckett and Jon Lester 8.18 ERA in their last six starts

    When you lose by one game, it can be said that you are .67 of one percent worse than the team that beat you out. All MLB teams have 10-20 games that they could have won if they were more fortunate such as balls that were foul by inches, balls hit hard but into the wind for outs, balls hit off the top of the wall, ball hit hard but right at someone, GRDs that could otherwise had been triples, bad hop hits, and bad calls by the umpires. The game is unpredictable and you need to take the bad luck with the good. Ideally the luck should even out over the 162 game season.
     
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