Re: June the 6th 1944
posted at 6/7/2014 12:47 PM EDT
In response to RigatoniT's comment:
My thought is that most soldiers enlist with the idea they are going off to help those in need, to save the good in the world. Once Germany was defeated and all the atrocities they had committed revealed each of our soldiers could sit down, look in the mirror, and say they did the right thing by fighting in this war.
In other wars the soldiers ideals are the same as those that swam through blood to make it to the beach in June 1944 but by the time it is over they cannot always look at themselves in the mirror and believe they had served a just cause. It is not their fault, and I would imagine it would be devastating to their psyche and their core beliefs.
Soldiers are never to be scorned so long as they themselves served with dignity...... the leaders that sent them there are another matter.... WWII was indeed a just cause, and a necessary fight.
Thank you for your insightful post. I believe all soldiers irrespective of the campaign who are being shot at because a bullet in Korea, Viet Nam, Iraq and Afghanistan can kill as much as one in WW2. I would have volunteered in WW2 because I believed in the cause and I knew there were German subs along the East Coast and Japanese ones in SF Bay. I did not go to Viet Nam because I believed in the cause. Because I am an American and was subject to a draft if I was 1 A I needed go or go to jail. We got home and were spit at and called baby killers because the Viet Cong hid among the civilians and I saw buddies hit and we were still instructed to not openly fire back. Hammah knows how I feel.
I have special praise for those who serve in the Middle East because there is no draft & I would guess that at least 50% of the population feels we shouldn’t have been there in the first place. I would have a tremendous fear worrying where to walk for fear of mines and also we have trained their Military but what screening have we done to keep Al Qaeda or Taliban out. You can’t turn your back on someone who is supposed to be an ally.
Mea Culpa but my $.02 on the Middle East is that once we found out that Saddam had no WMD, we should have gotten out of Iraq. The gas he used on his own people, the Kurds, was no danger to us. An egregious act and atrocity yes, but we can’t get involved in all the atrocities of the world. Saddam and we supported him with weapons, did keep IRAN at bay as both side lost millions in WW1 trench style warfare. Saddam also had no link to Osama and did not provide a haven for Al Qaeda.
Re: Afghanistan. We were rightfully furious after 9/11 so I believe that we needed to go in & get Osama to appease the wounds of the American people & try to abolish the Taliban. We got Osama & the Taliban still exist & Al Qaeda too and we might feel that their terrorists activities have diminished and hopefully so, but we should get out of Afghan…the Communists don’t want it and Russia failed as we are now to conquer it. We, on the other hand say we want them to be democratic. For centuries the tribes have existed and fought among themselves but will unite against a foreign invader as they did against Russia & us. This war which is taking an American life every day and costing us $2 Billion a month is not, in all likelihood, winnable.
Yup, it’s nice to see that they have more schools open and the women don’t always need wear burkas etc. but the men want the women to be subservient as it has been for centuries. As much as this is not what we believe, what right do we have to make them believe as we do. A democratic change needs come from within the country. Thus, Afghan is no military threat to us so let’s get the hell out & it’s long overdue. And you know what, I don’t think Pakistan would care either.