Just another whiny young ballplayer.......

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    Machado gave an honest answer so I see nothing wrong with him saying he is disappointed.

    If he keeps playing well like he is, then he will get his big payday.   Laughing

     

     

     
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    His wins above replacement (WAR) last year was 5th best--tied with Pedroia--in the AL. 

    MLB salaries have never been higher.  Ken Burns series on Baseball points out that before Curt Flood the average player made 7 times as much as the average fan.  After, it was 7 X 7.  But the series Baseball said that back in 1994.   Today it's probably 100 times as much.

    But for the young guys like Machado with a lot of talent it can feel like indentured servitude.  Most players under 30 are underpaid and 30 and older are overpaid.  Something like that, anyway. 

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    (WAR) <FLUSH>

    means abso nothing..one of the most idiotic metrics ever devised - almost as bad as fielding metrics

     

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    under 30 yr old players are making MILLIONS of DOLLARS a YEAR usually...they are not underpaid....

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    How is WAR "one of the most idiotic metrics ever devised"  seems like the baseball world is using it more and more and more every year.  And if you look at the WAR leaders it appears to be a pretty darn good measure of value and performance, Afterall it was Mike Trout who led all of baseball in WAR last year.

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    Probably because WAR shows that some player or players Geo hates are actually pretty valuable. Stephen Drew posted a pretty healthy WAR last season, but Geo knows in his heart (nay, takes it as a matter of dogma) that Drew is terrible, so therefore WAR must be stupid. I rather doubt his analysis goes much deeper than that.

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    and how does S Drews WAR and present homeless situation SUPPORT your arguments FOR WAR? lol  Do you really need a hypotehtical stat that measures imaginary replacements to tell you Mike Trout was a boss out there? WAR could only work if you had the same replacement playing for the same teams playing in the same stadiums....there is no controlled measure here and that makes it purely subjective/speculative....so if you have a really deep bench and your sub is a clutch player, does that mean you are not so valuable?

    beyond dumb

     
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    Agreed. If he is so valuable why isn't he signed? Duh

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    The loss of a draft pick.

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    Drew is about a 3 WAR player.  Fangraphs would say that Drew is a solid starter to a good player, but not an all-star.  

    Scrub 0-1 WAR Role Player 1-2 WAR Solid Starter 2-3 WAR Good Player 3-4 WAR All-Star 4-5 WAR Superstar 5-6 WAR MVP 6+ WAR

    what is hurting Drew is he is in his 30's and playing a defensive first position, and he has an injury history, and he has draft pick compensation attached to him.

    Also he has reportedly received offers, he's just turned them down.  This doesn't mean this was the wisest decision, but he made it none the less.  He could sign any day know, especially if someone goes down in ST.  He could also have a multitude of deals on the table that are paying him a much smaller amount than he wants.  He could also be waiting until after opening day to sign; in which case a Q.O. could NOT be offered to him next year.

     
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    So weird everyone knew who the OP was talking about without any comment.

     
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    New technology being implemented this year  that will render previous defense metrics as being primitive. I'm all for it. The old UZR was based on eyeballs.

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    Is it true that there's a stat based on what someone sees? That's unbelievable since everyone can see the same thing and see something different.

     

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