Re: Just in: NO HOF this year for Bonds, Clemens, Sosa
posted at 1/11/2013 6:52 PM EST
In response to BMav's comment:
In response to ThatWasMe's comment:
We all have our opinions these are mine.
Rose was the best pure hitter I ever saw.
Sandy Koufax the most dominant pitcher that I've ever seen.
If I had to pick one pitcher in his prime to win one game it would be Koufax.
So you are saying you take Koufax over Sutton and who is better has little to do with career totals, since Sutton has almost twice as many wins as Koufax and about 1200 more K's. Thats good to hear.
The best contact hitter, pure hitter or average hitter I ever saw was Tony Gwynn. If my life depended on getting a hit I would let Gwynn hit for me. I would not even put Rose in my top 5 pure hitters I saw. But hey, thats just me. The best overall hitter I saw was Barry Bonds.
Never saw Koufax, but I take Pedro over anybody who I ever saw. And would take Pedro to win a game for me.
We all have opinions and it was nice hearing yours.
Sutton and Koufax don't belong in the same conversation.
Koufax won the Cy Young in 63, 64 and 65 by unanimous votes and that's when there was just one Cy Young awarded to one pitcher for both leagues.
How many pitchers can you name who won the Cy Young with unanimous votes? And for one Cy Young for both leagues, he did it three times.
That's how good he was.
Each time he won the Cy Young he did so by leading both leagues in wins, Ks and ERA, the pitcher's triple crown.
Koufax and Nolan Ryan are the only two pitchers inducted into the hall that had more strikeouts than innings pitched.
He was an MVP and twice WS MVP, 4 no hitters.
Don Sutton? Talk to any old Dodger fans about that choice. I'd take Tommy John over Don Sutton or Don Drysdale..
The Yankees battered Sutton in the 78 series.
I'm a life long Yankee fan, Mickey Mantle was my favorite. The Yankees won the WS in 61 and 62, the Dodgers behind Koufax swept the Yankees in 1963, he was unhittable, he beat Whitey Ford the first game and struck out 15 Yankees, beat Ford again in game 4 to complete the sweep.
Bonds? Mr. Potato head? The juicer?
He cheated and he still couldn't get 3000 hits. Rose finished with 4256.
Juice aside Bonds was a great player but he wasn't a better hitter than Rose.
Rose used the entire park, he went with the pitch, he didn't pull it, he took whatever the pitcher gave him, that's why he's the all-time hit leader.