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Thank god the ignore button is back...

Weak.

Weak-minded.

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Back to Lackey.....

Predictions?

God, I pray he wakes up!  I hope he comes in to ST in great shape!  If he's got an ounce of integrity, he will come back RIPPED / in great pitching shape, wanting to make up for the past.  Start a new & final chapter here in Boston.  Show fans that he actually has the goods, but really did suffer a crippling injury that WAS THE cause for his pathetic pitching!  Come back with a new, revitalized, competative, no excuses, no bs, no hard drinking, no embarrassing his teammates, quasi-leadership role mentality.  If he's got an ounce of pride and intelligence he will do all of those things.  Otherwise, if he comes in soiling the bed as I suspect he will, he will get ripped to shreds by RSN.  And thoroughly deserve it!

So.......  Predictions?

Realistically, I think he has about a 4.90 ERA, with a 6 - 7 record by the mid-summer classic. 

Still.....  Praying for about a 4.00 ERA with a 8 - 4 record 

What say you? 

(cue the big dog triumph with nothing more than a cursory snide comment.  Not much substance there :)


Realistic expectations for Lackey by the end of the year: 4.45, 11 wins, 11 losses. Anything better than that from our #5 SP is a bonus.

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Back to Lackey.....

Predictions?

God, I pray he wakes up!  I hope he comes in to ST in great shape!  If he's got an ounce of integrity, he will come back RIPPED / in great pitching shape, wanting to make up for the past.  Start a new & final chapter here in Boston.  Show fans that he actually has the goods, but really did suffer a crippling injury that WAS THE cause for his pathetic pitching!  Come back with a new, revitalized, competative, no excuses, no bs, no hard drinking, no embarrassing his teammates, quasi-leadership role mentality.  If he's got an ounce of pride and intelligence he will do all of those things.  Otherwise, if he comes in soiling the bed as I suspect he will, he will get ripped to shreds by RSN.  And thoroughly deserve it!

So.......  Predictions?

Realistically, I think he has about a 4.90 ERA, with a 6 - 7 record by the mid-summer classic. 

Still.....  Praying for about a 4.00 ERA with a 8 - 4 record 

What say you? 

(cue the big dog triumph with nothing more than a cursory snide comment.  Not much substance there :)


Realistic expectations for Lackey by the end of the year: 4.45, 11 wins, 11 losses. Anything better than that from our #5 SP is a bonus.

Probably a very realistic prediction for the entire season.  Unfortunately, I think he'll end up over 5.00 ERA.  If our bats live up to max expectations, he still could eek out 14 wins, but highly doubtful. 

I'm still praying for the highly improbable, where the bats bail him out the entire season, & he picks up a cool 15 wins despite the near 5.00 ERA.  :)  Fingers crossed!

That's it!  I'm putting on my teacher hat.  You boys are separated!  You can go to recess, but stay away from eachother.  Don't even look at eachother!  Not even a glance!  Do you understand me?

LOL :)    OK.....  whatever......  have at eachother !

btw....  what are the crazy gold stars all about.  If I were one of my students, I would really want one.  Ok ok...  I admit it.  I really want one, but I don't know how to get one.  That's the problem with this society, it's the lack of clear expectations.  If I knew what I had to do I would do it.  I just want my fair share!  What do I have to do?  Suck up to Dottie?  Agree with Stiffy's crazy rants?  Tell Moon I love his avatar?  What's the secret?  How does one get an elusive gold star?  Actually, they're not that elusive.  Everybody else has one, so why not me?

LOL  :)  I want my GD gold star now!

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btw....  what are the crazy gold stars all about.  If I were one of my students, I would really want one.  Ok ok...  I admit it.  I really want one, but I don't know how to get one.  That's the problem with this society, it's the lack of clear expectations.  If I knew what I had to do I would do it.  I just want my fair share!  What do I have to do?  Suck up to Dottie?  Agree with Stiffy's crazy rants?  Tell Moon I love his avatar?  What's the secret?  How does one get an elusive gold star?  Actually, they're not that elusive.  Everybody else has one, so why not me?

LOL  :)  I want my GD gold star now!

Was wondering the same thing. What are they there for?

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btw....  what are the crazy gold stars all about.  If I were one of my students, I would really want one.  Ok ok...  I admit it.  I really want one, but I don't know how to get one.  That's the problem with this society, it's the lack of clear expectations.  If I knew what I had to do I would do it.  I just want my fair share!  What do I have to do?  Suck up to Dottie?  Agree with Stiffy's crazy rants?  Tell Moon I love his avatar?  What's the secret?  How does one get an elusive gold star?  Actually, they're not that elusive.  Everybody else has one, so why not me?

LOL  :)  I want my GD gold star now!

Was wondering the same thing. What are they there for?

The gold stars are supposed to mark the posts you haven't read yet. :-)

Probably a very realistic prediction for the entire season. Unfortunately, I think he'll end up over 5.00 ERA. If our bats live up to max expectations, he still could eek out 14 wins, but highly doubtful.

I'm still praying for the highly improbable, where the bats bail him out the entire season, & he picks up a cool 15 wins despite the near 5.00 ERA. :) Fingers crossed!

Still, those numbers (mine) are not bad for a #5 SP, which is what he is until he proves otherwise. Our problem is not that our #5 is so bad, its that we don't have a #1 or a #2 SP. We have a lot of mediocre SP.

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Probably a very realistic prediction for the entire season. Unfortunately, I think he'll end up over 5.00 ERA. If our bats live up to max expectations, he still could eek out 14 wins, but highly doubtful.

I'm still praying for the highly improbable, where the bats bail him out the entire season, & he picks up a cool 15 wins despite the near 5.00 ERA. :) Fingers crossed!

Still, those numbers (mine) are not bad for a #5 SP, which is what he is until he proves otherwise. Our problem is not that our #5 is so bad, its that we don't have a #1 or a #2 SP. We have a lot of mediocre SP.

Agreed!  Buch showed signs of getting there last year, but was still relatively unpredictable.  He's a decent #3.  Lester???  Who the hell knows.  Which brings up my biggest problem with Lackey.  Since coming aboard, I have noticed a definitive unhinging of Lester on the mound.  His attitude sux (is it ok to say sux).  He loses it over the slightest thing!  He's got to get his chit together.  It's all about the head game with him, and I think Lackey has been a major distraction with him.  The negativity coming from Dice-k, Beckett, & Lackey seem to have completely de-railed Lester.  The lack of a work ethic led to Buch's injuries (IMO...  based solely on nothing more than a feeling & reading between the lines).  Problem!  Lackey is still around.  Can't say that I like it!!!  If it were up to me, I would dump him for a bucket of balls.  I think it's all about his unprofessional, fun guy, I'll get the tab if you get blowed with me, tweek the system, subvert authority, attitude.  Perhaps I duth protesteth too much, but it is what it is with this guy.  I still say he's a cancer.

I hope to heck I'm wrong!!!!  I will still root for him to do well!!!!  I will gladly EAT CROW!  Mea Culpas all around.  I really hope I have to do that, & unlike the Stiff One, I will step up to the plate & take my plunking!  :)  Show me Lack!  Just flippin do it! 

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Probably a very realistic prediction for the entire season. Unfortunately, I think he'll end up over 5.00 ERA. If our bats live up to max expectations, he still could eek out 14 wins, but highly doubtful

I'm still praying for the highly improbable, where the bats bail him out the entire season, & he picks up a cool 15 wins despite the near 5.00 ERA. :) Fingers crossed!

Still, those numbers (mine) are not bad for a #5 SP, which is what he is until he proves otherwise. Our problem is not that our #5 is so bad, its that we don't have a #1 or a #2 SP. We have a lot of mediocre SP.


Agreed!  Buch showed signs of getting there last year, but was still relatively unpredictable.  He's a decent #3.  Lester???  Who the hell knows.  Which brings up my biggest problem with Lackey.  Since coming aboard, I have noticed a definitive unhinging of Lester on the mound.  His attitude sux (is it ok to say sux).  He loses it over the slightest thing!  He's got to get his chit together.  It's all about the head game with him, and I think Lackey has been a major distraction with him.  The negativity coming from Dice-k, Beckett, & Lackey seem to have completely de-railed Lester.  The lack of a work ethic led to Buch's injuries (IMO...  based solely on nothing more than a feeling & reading between the lines).  Problem!  Lackey is still around.  Can't say that I like it!!!  If it were up to me, I would dump him for a bucket of balls.  I think it's all about his unprofessional, fun guy, I'll get the tab if you get blowed with me, tweek the system, subvert authority, attitude.  Perhaps I duth protesteth too much, but it is what it is with this guy.  I still say he's a cancer.

I hope to heck I'm wrong!!!!  I will still root for him to do well!!!!  I will gladly EAT CROW!  Mea Culpas all around.  I really hope I have to do that, & unlike the Stiff One, I will step up to the plate & take my plunking!  :)  Show me Lack!  Just flippin do it! 

I think it was Beckett that was the problem. Lester picked up a few bad habits from him. With Farrell back I think Lester will revert back to his normal stats, which is a TOTR starter.

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Probably a very realistic prediction for the entire season. Unfortunately, I think he'll end up over 5.00 ERA. If our bats live up to max expectations, he still could eek out 14 wins, but highly doubtful

I'm still praying for the highly improbable, where the bats bail him out the entire season, & he picks up a cool 15 wins despite the near 5.00 ERA. :) Fingers crossed!

Still, those numbers (mine) are not bad for a #5 SP, which is what he is until he proves otherwise. Our problem is not that our #5 is so bad, its that we don't have a #1 or a #2 SP. We have a lot of mediocre SP.


Agreed!  Buch showed signs of getting there last year, but was still relatively unpredictable.  He's a decent #3.  Lester???  Who the hell knows.  Which brings up my biggest problem with Lackey.  Since coming aboard, I have noticed a definitive unhinging of Lester on the mound.  His attitude sux (is it ok to say sux).  He loses it over the slightest thing!  He's got to get his chit together.  It's all about the head game with him, and I think Lackey has been a major distraction with him.  The negativity coming from Dice-k, Beckett, & Lackey seem to have completely de-railed Lester.  The lack of a work ethic led to Buch's injuries (IMO...  based solely on nothing more than a feeling & reading between the lines).  Problem!  Lackey is still around.  Can't say that I like it!!!  If it were up to me, I would dump him for a bucket of balls.  I think it's all about his unprofessional, fun guy, I'll get the tab if you get blowed with me, tweek the system, subvert authority, attitude.  Perhaps I duth protesteth too much, but it is what it is with this guy.  I still say he's a cancer.

I hope to heck I'm wrong!!!!  I will still root for him to do well!!!!  I will gladly EAT CROW!  Mea Culpas all around.  I really hope I have to do that, & unlike the Stiff One, I will step up to the plate & take my plunking!  :)  Show me Lack!  Just flippin do it! 

I think it was Beckett that was the problem. Lester picked up a few bad habits from him. With Farrell back I think Lester will revert back to his normal stats, which is a TOTR starter.

Beckett wasn't a problem until Lackey showed up.  Next, they paraded around the "3 horsemen," & things started immediately falling over the cliff in ST.  When Dice-K & Lackey got "hurt," & fans started riding them hard, Lackey started adopting the FFFF them attitude toward RS fans.  That seems to be about the time the hard drinking started.  It's clear they all stopped listening to Francona, & Francona was not in a good place to deal with it.  So....  He ignored it, and the festering continued unabaited. 

Just my read on it.  (as I've said, strictly reading between the lines!  Lotta lines to read between though.)

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Probably a very realistic prediction for the entire season. Unfortunately, I think he'll end up over 5.00 ERA. If our bats live up to max expectations, he still could eek out 14 wins, but highly doubtful

I'm still praying for the highly improbable, where the bats bail him out the entire season, & he picks up a cool 15 wins despite the near 5.00 ERA. :) Fingers crossed!

Still, those numbers (mine) are not bad for a #5 SP, which is what he is until he proves otherwise. Our problem is not that our #5 is so bad, its that we don't have a #1 or a #2 SP. We have a lot of mediocre SP.


Agreed!  Buch showed signs of getting there last year, but was still relatively unpredictable.  He's a decent #3.  Lester???  Who the hell knows.  Which brings up my biggest problem with Lackey.  Since coming aboard, I have noticed a definitive unhinging of Lester on the mound.  His attitude sux (is it ok to say sux).  He loses it over the slightest thing!  He's got to get his chit together.  It's all about the head game with him, and I think Lackey has been a major distraction with him.  The negativity coming from Dice-k, Beckett, & Lackey seem to have completely de-railed Lester.  The lack of a work ethic led to Buch's injuries (IMO...  based solely on nothing more than a feeling & reading between the lines).  Problem!  Lackey is still around.  Can't say that I like it!!!  If it were up to me, I would dump him for a bucket of balls.  I think it's all about his unprofessional, fun guy, I'll get the tab if you get blowed with me, tweek the system, subvert authority, attitude.  Perhaps I duth protesteth too much, but it is what it is with this guy.  I still say he's a cancer.

I hope to heck I'm wrong!!!!  I will still root for him to do well!!!!  I will gladly EAT CROW!  Mea Culpas all around.  I really hope I have to do that, & unlike the Stiff One, I will step up to the plate & take my plunking!  :)  Show me Lack!  Just flippin do it! 

I think it was Beckett that was the problem. Lester picked up a few bad habits from him. With Farrell back I think Lester will revert back to his normal stats, which is a TOTR starter.

Beckett wasn't a problem until Lackey showed up.  Next, they paraded around the "3 horsemen," & things started immediately falling over the cliff in ST.  When Dice-K & Lackey got "hurt," & fans started riding them hard, Lackey started adopting the FFFF them attitude toward RS fans.  That seems to be about the time the hard drinking started.  It's clear they all stopped listening to Francona, & Francona was not in a good place to deal with it.  So....  He ignored it, and the festering continued unabaited. 

Just my read on it.  (as I've said, strictly reading between the lines!  Lotta lines to read between though.)

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Weak-minded.

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Thank god the ignore button is back...

Weak.

Weak-minded.

who?

btw....  what are the crazy gold stars all about.  If I were one of my students, I would really want one.  Ok ok...  I admit it.  I really want one, but I don't know how to get one.  That's the problem with this society, it's the lack of clear expectations.  If I knew what I had to do I would do it.  I just want my fair share!  What do I have to do?  Suck up to Dottie?  Agree with Stiffy's crazy rants?  Tell Moon I love his avatar?  What's the secret?  How does one get an elusive gold star?  Actually, they're not that elusive.  Everybody else has one, so why not me?

LOL  :)  I want my GD gold star now!

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btw....  what are the crazy gold stars all about.  If I were one of my students, I would really want one.  Ok ok...  I admit it.  I really want one, but I don't know how to get one.  That's the problem with this society, it's the lack of clear expectations.  If I knew what I had to do I would do it.  I just want my fair share!  What do I have to do?  Suck up to Dottie?  Agree with Stiffy's crazy rants?  Tell Moon I love his avatar?  What's the secret?  How does one get an elusive gold star?  Actually, they're not that elusive.  Everybody else has one, so why not me?

LOL  :)  I want my GD gold star now!

if you click on the star/# of posts button on the front page it will automatically take you to the last unread post on the thread. i think its pretty useful