Lester traded to A's

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    This is good?  Another .250 hitter?  With some power?  and no pitching.   

    Our rotation next year - assuming Lackey is next 

    1. Buchholtz

    2. De La Rosa

    3. Webster

    4. guy from sec 104 row 14 seat 7

    5. guy sitting next to him 

     



    Oakland is a hard place for a right handed hitter to hit power over there!!  Better off to come to fenway park, and he ll hit over 30 homeruns a year!!



    We might need him to hit 30 HRs a game for as many runs as we are going to give up 

     
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    Rubby, Webster, Lackey and Cespedes for Stanton

     
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    My only concern with this trade is this.  Cespedes doesn't hit RHP very well at all, although he does hit RHP a tad bit better than Gomes, but he doesn't hit LHP as well as Gomes.

    Honestly we would still be a better team at the end of the day if he platooned with Nava, who hits RHP better.  Cespedes is just under contract for one more year than Gomes.

    We effectively traded Lester for a Gomes with a bit more speed, slightly better platoon splits, and a competitive lottery balance pick.  

    I'd give this trade a C+

     
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    Cespedes is good but our starting pitchingis at present a train wreck

     
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    This is good?  Another .250 hitter?  With some power?  and no pitching.   

    Our rotation next year - assuming Lackey is next 

    1. Buchholtz

    2. De La Rosa

    3. Webster

    4. guy from sec 104 row 14 seat 7

    5. guy sitting next to him 

     



    Which side?  The guy in seat 8 is a beast -- but if the chick in 6, we're gonna need to make another trade...

     
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    Cespedes is good.....but he's not great.  Perhaps Fenway makes him better. 

     
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    This trade was done early in the day.  Cespedes, WMB, and Cash for Stanton - I smell a flip here

     
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    This trade was done early in the day.  Cespedes, WMB, and Cash for Stanton - I smell a flip here



    No way, in any Universe Florida makes that trade....completely senseless 

     
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    Cespedes OBP is tres tres bad.  I like his bat and he should dent the monster.  Lester has a good chance at returning.  Im holding out hope he comes back.  If Lackey is dealt i think the chances are slim that Lester returns.  Pitching wins....we need both back next year.  

    Its a decent trade.  I give it a C+.  If Lester returns it gets an A.  

     
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    My only concern with this trade is this.  Cespedes doesn't hit RHP very well at all, although he does hit RHP a tad bit better than Gomes, but he doesn't hit LHP as well as Gomes.

    Honestly we would still be a better team at the end of the day if he platooned with Nava, who hits RHP better.  Cespedes is just under contract for one more year than Gomes.

    We effectively traded Lester for a Gomes with a bit more speed, slightly better platoon splits, and a competitive lottery balance pick.  

    I'd give this trade a C+


    Geez, I can see the fits people will throw already, when Nava plays and Cepedes sits....

     
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    This trade was done early in the day.  Cespedes, WMB, and Cash for Stanton - I smell a flip here



    No way, in any Universe Florida makes that trade....completely senseless 



    or maybe cespedes and lackey along with someone for stanton

     
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    My only concern with this trade is this.  Cespedes doesn't hit RHP very well at all, although he does hit RHP a tad bit better than Gomes, but he doesn't hit LHP as well as Gomes.

    Honestly we would still be a better team at the end of the day if he platooned with Nava, who hits RHP better.  Cespedes is just under contract for one more year than Gomes.

    We effectively traded Lester for a Gomes with a bit more speed, slightly better platoon splits, and a competitive lottery balance pick.  

    I'd give this trade a C+


    Geez, I can see the fits people will throw already, when Nava plays and Cepedes sits....




    I'd rather have Cespedes than some AA "prospect"....this guy will do well in Fenway and if nothing else will provide some power. Also I never believed the Lester will come back scenario but this trade does give me a glimmer of hope

     
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    This trade was done early in the day.  Cespedes, WMB, and Cash for Stanton - I smell a flip here




    Did Cherington roofie the FO down in Miami?  That would be straight up robbery.

     
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    This is great because we know Oakland has no chance in resigning him and we get a power hitting outfielder in return.



    yes.  that is shocking move by Beane



    Very un Beane like.  I think he knows this could backfire on him but he wants to go for it. 



    The A's could care less about future. They know this is there chance to win a WS. Now. Great move by A's. They can't and won't ever re-sign a guy who will command any serious dollars. Beane is a genius.

     
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    This trade was done early in the day.  Cespedes, WMB, and Cash for Stanton - I smell a flip here



    Hey Andrew.  It would have to be +++ for Stanton to come here.  Possibly Lackey and another couple prospects.  Cespedes WMB Lackey and a few prospects.  

     
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    My only concern with this trade is this.  Cespedes doesn't hit RHP very well at all, although he does hit RHP a tad bit better than Gomes, but he doesn't hit LHP as well as Gomes.

    Honestly we would still be a better team at the end of the day if he platooned with Nava, who hits RHP better.  Cespedes is just under contract for one more year than Gomes.

    We effectively traded Lester for a Gomes with a bit more speed, slightly better platoon splits, and a competitive lottery balance pick.  

    I'd give this trade a C+


    Geez, I can see the fits people will throw already, when Nava plays and Cepedes sits....



    Yes, because god forbid a guy who hits HRs play over Dan the great one.

     
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    Cespedes can become a FA after 2015. I need to think about this deal a little longer, but my initial reaction is that we could have done better by getting a player or players under team control for more years. Maybe the hope is we have a good chance to extend him.

    Sox4ever

     
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    Is it a good deal? Probably not. Will they get Lester back in the offseason? Probably not. Is Cespedes a HR hitter with some potential? Yes. Is he and a draft pick worth Lester? Of course not. But his HR potential may grow playing at Fenway. Bottom line you never trade an ace for a hitter. But the Sox put themselves into a situation where their offense sucks so bad and their Minor Leagues are so empty of power, they make the move. I'm sure everyone will pat Ben C. on the back thinking it will open a return for Lester to Boston, but you can be the Yanks will throw 150 million at him. I will miss Mr. Lester.

     
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    Cespedes can become a FA after 2015. I need to think about this deal a little longer, but my initial reaction is that we could have done better by getting a player or players under team control for more years. Maybe the hope is we have a good chance to extend him.

    Sox4ever



    Its sexy when you first read it.  But when you digest it, well i think id rather have the big end prospects.   We have another Jason Bay scenario.  

     
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    In response to moonslav59's comment:

    Cespedes can become a FA after 2015. I need to think about this deal a little longer, but my initial reaction is that we could have done better by getting a player or players under team control for more years. Maybe the hope is we have a good chance to extend him.

    Sox4ever




    seriously" Control? How many Sox outfielders (or anyone for that matter) have 17 home runs? He makes less than Drew does a year and Lester was going no matter what...

     
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    Sox are also getting a competitive balance pick. 

    Which is equivalent to a supplemental first round pick. 



    I think the pick is actually effectively a supplemental 2nd -- Oakland's was #2 in the B pool, which comes after round 2

     
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    Cespedes will give us a 5/6 hole production of 25/30 Hr , 260/280 avg, 80/90 RBI for the next 3 yrs. in 140 games, not too bad. And he's got a cannon of an arm. He's a lot better than Gomes in EVERY way and is only 28. Under control for 3 prime years so there is some upside here. I love the move. Left field is set as is the 5/6 spot in the lineup for the next 3 yrs. now let's see how we can spend 80 mil in the off season to up grade the rest of the team.....

     
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    Mike Napoli redux

     
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    There's no way Oakland will resign him. Hopefully he comes back to Boston in offseason. Great move by cherington



    Oakland was NEVER going to be the team that signs him. Its going to be one of the big budget teams, and I do not think Lucchino and Henry are smart enough to realize how important Lester is to anchor the rotation as the younger pitchers develop. Cespedes has an OPS of just .767, though his OPS+ is better at 114. Those numbers are similar to what Ellsbury is doing: .752/110. Unless we sign Lester or someone of similar talent we still will stink next year-again.

    WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE

     

     
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    moon, I almost think they felt they had no choice but to deal him. They know they aren't going to re-sign him. and they finally figured out no one was going to give them a real player with a better deal. Ironically, Kemp is hot. 

     
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