posted at 6/28/2013 11:47 AM EDT
In response to southpaw777's comment:
In response to pumpsie-green's comment:
Lets keep it real about Lester. While last night's outing was a much better effort than his most recent starts, he did surrender four ER in seven innings for an in game ERA of 5.14. His ERA actually went UP after yesterday's game and now is a lofty 4.61. Remember: ALL the runs he was charged with count. An ERA of 5.14 is more like a #5 SP or worse. He was better, but he was certainly not good yesterday.
WE ARE ALL JUST POPPYSEEDS IN THE BAKERY OF LIFE
I am keeping it real and I dont use your favorite, "in game" ERA, as my main stat to judge a pitcher. Ive already told you that ERA alone is a very very rough way to determine the worth of a pitcher. I also put things in the correct context. I never said anything that wasnt realistic. He made an adjustment, could have gone longer and we will never know if he would have shut them down or not, Bullpen didnt shut things down and allowed 2 runs to score. He looked good, especially his change up. Nothing more nothing less. Those statements are all true, thus realistic.
I also said there were still some "If's" and that the next 4 weeks were important.
Im not ready to say he's "back", but Im also not ready to give up on Lester. Not sure whats not realistic about that. Unless you were talking to someone else.
The tone of this thread is that somehow Lester did a good job last night. That is simply not true. Even though Taz let in some of the inherited runners, Lester did have two on and the count of 3-0 to another batter before he departed. He left a big mess and was charged with four ER in seven innings. I use the in game ERA only to gain a perspective of how well a pitcher did for an individual game, and I do not think that this kind of ERA, if carried out over a season, would be viewed as positive by too many posters here. The fact of the matter is that although his performance was better than the last few, it was not good. In fact, while Lester has had a few good games (as any ML pitcher with his number of games pitched has), for nearly two years he has performed close to the level of a #4 SP at best. If you are saying he is a #4 I would buy that. Better than that I would ask you to show me the evidence.